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Trump gets a $355 million kick to the crotch, will he pay up?

mandrill

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He actually stalked and harassed Engoron - which is why he got banned, not Engoron.

O' Keefe is a serial creep and stalker and liar.



James Edward O'Keefe III (born June 28, 1984) is an American political activist who founded Project Veritas, a far-right[3] activist[2] group that uses deceptively edited videos and information gathering techniques to attack mainstream media organizations and progressive groups. Both O'Keefe and Project Veritas have produced secretly recorded undercover audio and video encounters in academic, governmental, and social service organizations, purporting to show abusive or illegal behavior by representatives of those organizations; the recordings are often selectively edited to misrepresent the context of the conversations and the subjects' responses.[4] O'Keefe served as chairman until he was fired from the organization in February 2023.[5][6][7]

The Project Veritas board removed O'Keefe from leadership positions in February 2023 for what it said was financial malfeasance with donor money.[13] On March 15, 2023, O'Keefe launched a new organization called O'Keefe Media Group.[14] Project Veritas subsequently sued O'Keefe and two others, alleging that they had created the competing O'Keefe Media Group while still employees, approaching PV's donors and using company funds for this purpose. O'Keefe was also alleged to have improperly spent company funds on himself.[15][16]
 
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lol. The two of you, neither of whom obviously have the slightest clue about commercial lending, are in a kind of circle jerk, you both obviously no more than the banking and credit experts who have evidence in the trial.
Are these the "experts" that valued Mar a Lago at 18 million? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
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Are these the "experts" that valued Mar a Lago at 18 million? 👨‍⚖️ 👨‍⚖️ 👨‍⚖️ 👨‍⚖️
Yes. And the judge accepted their evidence. And the judge has 30 years experience in commercial litigation. So it's a done deal.
 
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SchlongConery

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I wonder how long before there's a zionist version of that show.
Shack could definitely play that part.
Really? You found a zionist angle to this too?

I think you're a good guy, a valuable contributor to TERB and share your sympathy towards the tragedy and human catastrophe in Gaza, West Bank and Israel in general... but jeez already, you're at risk of becoming PaliMitch. ;)
 
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lol this is hilarious.

We have con men conning normal people all the time. Take JT and Trump ( just to keep it federal).

We have normal people, real estate lawyers and lenders conned, when people get their identities and their houses

We have con men and terrorist conning huge administrations, annd governments and computer systems.

we have terrorist that pull fast ones on the fbi and mosad.

crooks are just gutter rats and red necks :)

But we don’t want more police nor do we want to fund them
 
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Really? You found a zionist angle to this too?

I think you're a good guy, a valuable contributor to TERB and share your sympathy towards the tragedy and human catastrophe in Gaza, West Bank and Israel in general... but jeez already, you're at risk of becoming PaliMitch. ;)
Context, schlong.
The genocide is the biggest story since 9/11 or possibly longer and will put rump back in power.
Its worth interjecting here.
 

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lol this is hilarious.

We have con men conning normal people all the time. Take JT and Trump ( just to keep it federal).

We have normal people, real estate lawyers and lenders conned, when people get their identities and their houses

We have con men and terrorist conning huge administrations, annd governments and computer systems.

we have terrorist that pull fast ones on the fbi and mosad.

crooks are just gutter rats and red necks :)

But we don’t want more police nor do we want to fund them
One of the first tricks of con men and fascists is to tell you that all politicians are crooks so you might as well back them.
 

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Are these the "experts" that valued Mar a Lago at 18 million? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You are missing the point. I have been in the real estate industry for many years and have commissioned and reviewed and relied upon hundreds of appraisals. It is not a precise science. An owner can believe that his or her property is worth whatever they like. Trump’s lenders would have appraised and done their own due diligence with respect to any particular loan they were considering.

the fraud was in the credit applications which goes into the pricing of the loan. Lenders would not due and due diligence on the individual components of the application other than the subject property.
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real estate is generally valued based upon certain multiples . So for example if you think an apartment unit is worth $100 K and the building has 100 units the building might be worth $10m. But if you lie and say the building has 200 units you are saying it is worth $20m. The lender the thinks you are much more credit worth so the may knock 1/2 a point off the rate on the subject loan. That is fraud whether or not you default on the subject loan and there are many people I jail for that type of thing.
 

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Context, schlong.
The genocide is the biggest story since 9/11 or possibly longer and will put rump back in power.
Its worth interjecting here.
I agree with you on the severity of the ongoing human tragedy.

But in my strategic business consulting side gig, I remind clients that messaging fatigue' can have a paradoxical effect. Especially on those who are on the fence and those who may be somewhat emotionally resistant to the intended call to action of the message.

Here is a relevant excerpt from https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dynamics365/release-plan/2023wave1/


"Ensure that your customers receive the right message at the right moment and at the right frequency to prevent fatigue, avoid unsubscribes, and facilitate optimal engagement with your key messages.

Some customers qualify for multiple journeys and campaigns that run simultaneously. This results in customers receiving multiple messages through one channel in a short period of time. Customers may perceive these messages as spam, which lowers their engagement."
 

Frankfooter

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I agree with you on the severity of the ongoing human tragedy.

But in my strategic business consulting side gig, I remind clients that messaging fatigue' can have a paradoxical effect. Especially on those who are on the fence and those who may be somewhat emotionally resistant to the intended call to action of the message.

Here is a relevant excerpt from https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dynamics365/release-plan/2023wave1/


"Ensure that your customers receive the right message at the right moment and at the right frequency to prevent fatigue, avoid unsubscribes, and facilitate optimal engagement with your key messages.

Some customers qualify for multiple journeys and campaigns that run simultaneously. This results in customers receiving multiple messages through one channel in a short period of time. Customers may perceive these messages as spam, which lowers their engagement."
Well, you're posting this on yet another thread on trump. We've had almost 9 years of trump threads on pretty much the same theme. Trump is corrupt, trump is a liar, trump is racist....There are ongoing court cases but nothing new and urgent.

The genocide is what, 4 months old and stands to drastically change that country forever and to drastically change the political field here and in the US. The US is in a particularly screwed up position where Biden should have a cakewalk back to power but has shot himself in the foot, followed by shooting himself in the dick, followed by an ice cream cone. Trudeau just had to cancel an event as part of protests that hit 100 cities across the world yet didn't show up in the MSM. We have the same risk here, JT has pissed off his base while he's already on thin ice and this could put PeePee in power.

Genocide is as evil as humans get and it fortunately it doesn't happen more than once in a few decades. But when it happens its a big deal and should be treated as such.
 

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Well, you're posting this on yet another thread on trump. We've had almost 9 years of trump threads on pretty much the same theme. Trump is corrupt, trump is a liar, trump is racist....There are ongoing court cases but nothing new and urgent.

The genocide is what, 4 months old and stands to drastically change that country forever and to drastically change the political field here and in the US. The US is in a particularly screwed up position where Biden should have a cakewalk back to power but has shot himself in the foot, followed by shooting himself in the dick, followed by an ice cream cone. Trudeau just had to cancel an event as part of protests that hit 100 cities across the world yet didn't show up in the MSM. We have the same risk here, JT has pissed off his base while he's already on thin ice and this could put PeePee in power.

Genocide is as evil as humans get and it fortunately it doesn't happen more than once in a few decades. But when it happens its a big deal and should be treated as such.
🤷‍♂️ Ok, carry on my friend.

Just remember... "...right message at the right moment " or you risk alienating those who might have otherwise been supportive instead of dismissing and resenting both the message and the messenger.
 
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We’re in the middle of an Election. We have Super Tuesday coming up very shortly. According to Justice Department guidelines, they shouldn’t be prosecuting me: “Federal prosecutors and agents may never select the timing of any action, including investigative steps, criminal charges, or statements, for the purpose of affecting any election, or for the purpose of giving an advantage or disadvantage to any candidate or political party.” THIS IS ELECTION INTERFERENCE, AND SHOULD BE STOPPED IN THE COURTS! Donald Trump Truth Social 11:51 AM EST 3/03/24
New tactic, all crooks should run for president and therefore never have to face trial.
You wanna do some rape, just wait for an election year.
Gotta kill someone, announce you're running and go buy that gun!
 

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You are missing the point. I have been in the real estate industry for many years and have commissioned and reviewed and relied upon hundreds of appraisals. It is not a precise science. An owner can believe that his or her property is worth whatever they like. Trump’s lenders would have appraised and done their own due diligence with respect to any particular loan they were considering.

the fraud was in the credit applications which goes into the pricing of the loan. Lenders would not due and due diligence on the individual components of the application other than the subject property.
.
real estate is generally valued based upon certain multiples . So for example if you think an apartment unit is worth $100 K and the building has 100 units the building might be worth $10m. But if you lie and say the building has 200 units you are saying it is worth $20m. The lender the thinks you are much more credit worth so the may knock 1/2 a point off the rate on the subject loan. That is fraud whether or not you default on the subject loan and there are many people I jail for that type of thing.
Any actual examples of Trump doing this or are you just making assumptions?

I googled and do not see any evidence.

I do see that the banks were satusfied with every loan they gave Trump and all interest was paid.

In conclusion, this was a political witch hunt and many businesses will be leaving New York because of it.
 

SchlongConery

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Any actual examples of Trump doing this or are you just making assumptions?

I googled and do not see any evidence.

I do see that the banks were satusfied with every loan they gave Trump and all interest was paid.

In conclusion, this was a political witch hunt and many businesses will be leaving New York because of it.
Ohhhhhh …. you “Googled it and did not see any evidence!”

Well there you have it folks!

Ever think the presiding Judge has a special, ‘Libs only Deep State Google”!

I suppose I could use my secret credentials and Google the actual case filing, which includes the evidence that the judge relied on to make the finding. But you wouldn’t read it anyways.
 
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