Trump gets a $355 million kick to the crotch, will he pay up?

[nottyboi]

Are you suggesting that giving immunity to a witness is unusual? If so you know nothing about the criminal justice system.

It isn't but this was a CIVIL trial and they included a whole bunch immunity on criminal acts that were not even related to this trial, So it STINKS and anyone can see it was quid pro quo and not just straight forward protection from self incrimination.

 

[toguy5252]

It isn't but this was a CIVIL trial and they included a whole bunch immunity on criminal acts that were not even related to this trial, So it STINKS and anyone can see it was quid pro quo and not just straight forward protection from self incrimination.

There is nothing unusual about this at all. You may not like it but it is a part of the system. You only have problems because it involves your fearless leader who you and he think should be above the law..

 

[toguy5252]

I don't think Trump lied on his credit applications, or else Deutsche Bank wouldn't have done business with Trump, in the first place!! It's not NY state's responsibility to decide if Deutsche Bank should have got a higher interest rate, or not!!

If you believe that it can only mean that you did not read the judgement and the summary of the evidence of the witnesses. And you are wrong about the law of fraud.

 

[toguy5252]

Hopefully, Trump will be able to come up with the money to appeal this "shockingly" high amount. What Engoron did was to contribute to "election interference." The Dems are terrified of a fair fight between Trump and Biden. The Dems realize that Biden is a very weak candidate!! Therefore, the Dems won't let Trump campaign properly, because of all these dumb indictments, that they charged Trump with!!

The only candidate weaker than Joe is the stable genius. What the Dems fear is that a real candidate will emerge.

 

[toguy5252]

I'm complaining that if this was any other person than trump this trial wouldn't have come to fruition, in the first place. 1. Laticia James ran her campaign on getting Trump. 2. Engoron made up his mind that Trump was guilty in a summary judgment, before any evidence was even presented. 3. Engoron totally ignored the statute of limitations. 4. According to Kevin O'Leary real estate developers do what Trump did everyday. 5. There were no victims. 6 Deutsche Bank got paid on time, and would do business with Trump again. 7. This trial was based on a archaic consumer law, where a jury wasn't allowed.

8. If Trump wasn't running for president, then Trump would have been left alone. 9. The $500 million fine was extremely excessive, for what Trump allegedly did wrong, if anything??

You are really clueless. You may truly believe that but that does not make it so. you are wrong factually and legally.

 

[toguy5252]

Trump didn't lie. All values of real estate and commercial buildings are speculative. As Kevin O'Leary made clear all real estate developers go through this song and dance every day. According to O'Leary, the banks have their own professional appraisers who report to the banks head office, what they think the real estate is worth, and how much there willing to loan the client or real estate developer etc How Engoron thought that Mar-a-Lago was only worth $18 million is beyond me.....LMAO

Do you think the square footage of apartments in trump tower are speculative? do you think the fact that he gave values for Florida real estate based upon 1000 + residential units when he had covenanted not to build on the property is speculative, Do you think the number of floors in trump tower is speculative? there were multiple cases of outright lies about the real estate which had nothing at all to do with speculation. read the judgement.

 

[toguy5252]

The banking and credit experts that Trump got to testify for him at the trial, thought that Trump did nothing wrong. The problem was, that loser Judge Engoron, had no clue how real estate valuations work, and had already made up his mind, before the trial even started!!

The only banking expert was paid a million dollars for his opinion. Do you think that may have colored his opinion?

 

[Frankfooter]

they were not suckers, they were probably complicit. you see, if they don't make the loan they don't make money. Because they are sophisticated, they know the project needs a cartain interest rate to be viable or no deal. So its in everyones interest to overvalue the collateral. The valuation was probably a colaboration between the Trump team and the bank team.

So breaking the law is ok if you think everyone else does it too?

 

[SchlongConery]

It isn't but this was a CIVIL trial and they included a whole bunch immunity on criminal acts that were not even related to this trial, So it STINKS and anyone can see it was quid pro quo and not just straight forward protection from self incrimination.

So breaking the law is ok if you think everyone else does it too?

 

[SchlongConery]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1763395802871824675

Wow!

That was awesome! Really! Thanks for sharing that!

P.S. I somehow pictured you with longer hair

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Wow!

That was awesome! Really! Thanks for sharing that!

P.S. I somehow pictured you with longer hair

There's 2 minutes of my life ill never get back ... wonder how many dates I have had that said the exact same thing

 

[mandrill]

Exactly, both the Carroll trial and Engoron trial were totally politically motivated. IMHO, these 2 lawsuits were not solid, at all.

They were quite solid. Trump was found liable both times.

Lawsuits are not supposed to be politically motivated!!

Not a rule, Mitch. Sorry.

So you admit, that if Trump wouldn't have decided to run for president again, then Trump would not have been sued in these 2 ridiculous civil lawsuits. So if Biden wins because of all these dumb charges and verdicts against Trump, the US has to put up with an old dementia patient in Biden, for the next 4 yrs......LMAO

He may still have been sued. Because he was such an asshole in his first term.

 

[Frankfooter]

What I'm saying is that Trump wasn't the leading GOP candidate for president, then they would have left Trump alone.

So you think all politicians should be free to break the law whenever they want because they are politicians?

 

[SchlongConery]

It’s bus fare to Donnie

At the rate his past is coming back to haunt this manic maniac, he'd need the spare change. Except the bus he's gonna be on is free!

 

[SchlongConery]

So you think all politicians should be free to break the law whenever they want because they are politicians?

No dummy! Of course not. Not "all".

Just you know who

 

[SchlongConery]

You know that will never happen

You know he will be POTUS in 2024

 

[Frankfooter]

I wonder how long before there's a zionist version of that show.
Shack could definitely play that part.

 

[Frankfooter]

And more fraud in the UK.

Donald Trump found to have fraudulently boosted Scots homes value by up to £200m

Donald Trump, his companies and some executives have been found to have fraudulently inflated the valuations of non-existent Scottish golf club…

www.heraldscotland.com

 

[Valcazar]

they were not suckers, they were probably complicit. you see, if they don't make the loan they don't make money. Because they are sophisticated, they know the project needs a cartain interest rate to be viable or no deal. So its in everyones interest to overvalue the collateral. The valuation was probably a colaboration between the Trump team and the bank team.

So it is just that Trump was the one foolish enough to put his name on things, but they both committed fraud together.
Interesting theory, but that still means Trump committed fraud.

 

[mandrill]

Trump Media Co-Founders File Lawsuit Claiming Company Tried To Dilute Their Stake

The co-founders of Trump’s media business allege the company tried to dilute their 10% stake in the parent company of Truth Social.

www.forbes.com

Trump sued on another, unrelated mega fraud by the co owners of his media company. He is a serial fraudster and needs to be banned from doing business.