Trump does not look good, he appears to have aged rapidly in the last 30 days. Will JD Vance have to invoke the 25th. constitutional amendment?

Ceiling Cat

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Several new sources of profit will be opened up to American
businesse:...................................................................................................blah blah blah, business as usual.
The government does not seek out business opportunities for industry, Free enterprise searches out opportunities and funds projects looking for a profit at the end.
If there is money to be made industry will find and exploit it. These things would have happened without Trump or any other sitting president.

Promises Trump can not or never intended to keep :

Pre-NAFTA Economy – Global trade isn’t going away.
Permanently Low Gas Prices – Prices depend on the world market.
Booming Steel Industry – Tariffs didn’t bring steel jobs back.

Endless Winning – Success isn’t guaranteed forever.
 
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silentkisser

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There is only 1 leader of the cult.

If trump's not there, the repugs will be like a pack of hyenas ripping at the carcass of the party to get whatever scraps for themselves that they can. Trump is the only unifying factor.
Or will Musk take more control? Vance is a bitch boy bought and paid for by guys like Peter Thiel...
 
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richaceg

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Vance is a puppet put there by Thiel and Buddies. Vance would have never been elected. And will never be. Next to no one like this guy.
This looks like a "well thought" post...what do you think of Kamala?
 

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How did he cheat?
First, he sets his cart to be faster than others. He gets to his ball quick and gives himself a better lie. He often steps on other's balls to give them worse lies. If he can't find his ball he sneaks in a drop and claims he found his ball. He also fails to count strokes. He kicks the ball so much that caddies call him Pelé [a reference to the famous Brazilian soccer player]. He throws it out of bunkers, he retakes shots, he throws other people’s balls into the water. Pretty much anyway you can cheat in golf he does.
 

silentkisser

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This looks like a "well thought" post...what do you think of Kamala?
I'll tell you: She would be significantly better than Trump. Considering all the folks coming out of the woodwork crying about how they voted for Trump and now have to pay much more for prescription drugs or have lost their jobs or businesses because of him. Equity markets have been volatile because they don't know what the "stable genius" is going to do next. And, for institutional investors and other large companies, stability is vitally important. Look at the Volatility Index. Ever since Trump won, it's been, on average, higher than most times during Biden's term. That's bad for business, and show's there is an expectation of trouble ahead.

I know that you're a Trump cultist. I know that you think this is all some great master plan. But what he's doing is eroding American democracy in real time, and setting up the ability for him to create his own police state. You might think that's hyperbole. But, consider what the GOP/Fox News reaction would be if Harris (or any Democrat) started to fire public servants based on their political leanings or who appointed them to positions. Or tried to nominated people wholly unqualified for key positions like defence or health. Or put in his own handpicked yes men to run the FBI and justice department. Or fired the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and is looking to put in a yes man....Someone who he can manipulate or control. They would shit a fucking brick and raise holy hell. But because it's Trump, and they think they'll be protected...they don't say boo.

I am not saying I'm 100% sure that Trump's going to find some excuse to suspend the constitution, but I would also not be shocked if he did. I am not one to buy into conspiracy theories, but when you see the moves he's making, from releasing the J6 scumbags (and giving him violent supporters in the field) to weakening any guardrails that keep his power in check....That is worrisome.
 

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Vance is heir apparent. That said, I think he'd be a better option for everyone. Trump makes impulsive, emotional moves. Sometimes they make sense, sometimes they are nonsense, and sometimes he flips back and forth so violently it does damage whether they get enacted or not.

Vance isn't like that. He has similar ideological stances, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. But rather than being impulsive and emotional, he's measured and logical. In my opinion, he'd likely keep up with some of Trump's better ideas (like border security, cost cutting and Chinese tariffs), while curbing some of the nonsensical ones (like Canadian tariffs and the external revenue bureau). Vance is just playing the part of Trump's successor, doing what he has to. I don't think they see eye to eye on everything, but Vance is smart enough not to show it, because Trump is crazy about loyalty.
 
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richaceg

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Anyone other than Trump would fare better.

Trump has managed to destroy so much business in his past. Got himself and his company in court thousands of times. He is an imbecile and a fraud. Nothing good will come out mid to long-term from Trump for the US.
Which businesses? he managed to turn his million inheritance to billions...
 

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Vance is heir apparent. That said, I think he'd be a better option for everyone. Trump makes impulsive, emotional moves. Sometimes they make sense, sometimes they are nonsense, and sometimes he flips back and forth so violently it does damage whether they get enacted or not.

Vance isn't like that. He has similar ideological stances, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. But rather than being impulsive and emotional, he's measured and logical. In my opinion, he'd likely keep up with some of Trump's better ideas (like border security, cost cutting and Chinese tariffs), while curbing some of the nonsensical ones (like Canadian tariffs and the external revenue bureau). Vance is just playing the part of Trump's successor, doing what he has to. I don't think they see eye to eye on everything, but Vance is smart enough not to show it, because Trump is crazy about loyalty.
I agree with you on this. Vance would make a better President even though I do not think much of him, he is smarter than Trump and more logical.
 
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richaceg

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I'll tell you: She would be significantly better than Trump. Considering all the folks coming out of the woodwork crying about how they voted for Trump and now have to pay much more for prescription drugs or have lost their jobs or businesses because of him. Equity markets have been volatile because they don't know what the "stable genius" is going to do next. And, for institutional investors and other large companies, stability is vitally important. Look at the Volatility Index. Ever since Trump won, it's been, on average, higher than most times during Biden's term. That's bad for business, and show's there is an expectation of trouble ahead.

I know that you're a Trump cultist. I know that you think this is all some great master plan. But what he's doing is eroding American democracy in real time, and setting up the ability for him to create his own police state. You might think that's hyperbole. But, consider what the GOP/Fox News reaction would be if Harris (or any Democrat) started to fire public servants based on their political leanings or who appointed them to positions. Or tried to nominated people wholly unqualified for key positions like defence or health. Or put in his own handpicked yes men to run the FBI and justice department. Or fired the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and is looking to put in a yes man....Someone who he can manipulate or control. They would shit a fucking brick and raise holy hell. But because it's Trump, and they think they'll be protected...they don't say boo.

I am not saying I'm 100% sure that Trump's going to find some excuse to suspend the constitution, but I would also not be shocked if he did. I am not one to buy into conspiracy theories, but when you see the moves he's making, from releasing the J6 scumbags (and giving him violent supporters in the field) to weakening any guardrails that keep his power in check....That is worrisome.
if she can't handle 2 billion $$$ for her campaign...what makes you think she can handle Trillion $$$ budget? The US dodged a bullet.
 

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Did not get upset , just point to your dumb opinion! By way getting a 3rd term requires constitutional amend ment requirements is a 2/3 majority in senate. That will never happen !By way a dictator for life is an another dumb leftist you preaching idea conspiracy's theory. That would required a Martial law army call an election cancelled! That will never happen! Only liberal do illegal stuff like Justin Pierre Trudeau again . Both liberals infringe people rights! Like the truckers seized their bank account and jail them . Or his Father Pierre Trudeau throwing 1000’s Quebecer in jail without their right and lawyers during 1970s Quebec ( October crisis) go google it!

You really suffer TDS. Again chill take shot of brandy by then his term 4 year is up. And he will retire. Or die of stress from the job , because of you liberal.
The ramblings of a mentally ill man. You need help my friend
 

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You can't tell?
Seeing as I don't think it's real, no, I can't. I've explained many times and listed what the symptoms of trump Devotee Syndrome are and every time one you guys displays it, I point it out.

As I said, the word "syndrome" itself means that there are a series of symptoms that are common to sufferers and those common symptoms help to make the diagnosis.

Your use of TDS means it's a syndrome. Since I have a different perspective than you, I'm asking you to please enlighten me as to what the symptoms are so that can do a better evaluation on my own. If there are no common symptoms that you can point out, then you are admitting there is no actual syndrome and the whole concept of TDS is a fallacy.

As such, I'd appreciate some insight into what I don't understand, especially coming from an expert.
 
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shack

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You really suffer TDS.
I've asked rich, with little success, as to how you can recognize somebody with TDS. What are the common symptoms that someone with TDS has.

The term TDS is very, very widely used but, TBH, I've never seen it explained. Or is just an invented term that doesn't actually mean anything?
 
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