Trudeau tables bill to limit handguns, pledges to buy back assault weapons
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Why don’t you post links? I was trying to research but it mostly shows totals and nothing to do with licensed or unlicensed and I hope you are not taking about American shootings where any 18 year old can have a gun without any training or background check.
For now here some mass shootings guns details and from what I see I doubt this new law would stop any of it…If anything there will be more underground market harder to keep under control
You just proved that banning guns works.And in Chicago they hold mass shooting parties every single weekend. How this applies to Canada and the Canadian realities, I know not. Of course I'm not you.
46 Shot During Memorial Weekend in Mayor Lori Lightfoot's Chicago
Forty-six people were shot, ten of them fatally, during Memorial Day weekend in Mayor Lori Lightfoot's (D) Chicago.www.breitbart.com
Congrats.
The irony of this statement on a secret hooker review board.
I'm talking about Canada, not the U.S. This thread is about Canada, isn''t it?
Who do you think would win in a boxing match Justin vs Trump.? We know Justin could easily bang Melania but now ask yourself who would kick who's ass in the ring?
hint hint
I was talking about mass shootings in the US. There is no other country with statistical data which is significant. My point was though that no thinks that any laws will deter someone who is intent on obtaining a gun either legally or illegally. Apart from mass shootings look at the statistics for suicide by gun or gun deaths among people who know each other (like souses for instance). Most gun violence and gun deaths are not from so called "criminals").
I was talking about the US when it comes to mass shootings because sadly that is the only country in which there are statistically significant numbers.
Please share the statistics you are relying upon to make that bald assertion.
In some states you can get a gun at 18 with no to minimal screening. And those are the guns mostly used in crimes here in Canada!
Canadian fire arm suicides are very low comparing to other countries.so is the spousal shootings
And instead of tackling the very well regulated industry, that creates jobs etc would be a good time to stop being hypocrites and stop throwing laws that are aimed to boost the votes, maybe it’s better to concentrate on the issue that is the actual cause of all of the mass shootings, suicides and domestic violence.. e.g mental health, racism, substance abuse.
Terrorists, who plan mass shootings will get their guns the same way they have always done.. it’s not the Canadian regulations that affect us here it’s the American. And if a person wants to commit suicide, do you think he will change his mind simply because he has no gun handy? Domestic violence is taken very seriously in this country, and no most spousal murders are not done by guns.. they are done by intoxicated individuals who use knives and fists or anything handy.
As for illegal guns.. Canada will always be affected by American regulations, regardless of what laws they can come up with.
I don't own guns. I never have and never will. But I'm smart enough to know that JT's new vision will do little to curb the gun violence in Canada. If legal gun owners were the ones committing the crimes, then yes, I would support a ban on guns. But that's not the case. I have lots of friends who own guns and the hoops they have to jump through to get a license is extraordinary. Not to mention the restrictions on use, transport and storage. Owners are also subject to daily RCMP background checks and give up their rights when it comes to search warrants. Meaning, LE can knock on their door without a warrant and demand to see their guns and how they're stored. If memory serves me correctly, guns need to be stored in a safe, with trigger locks and the ammunition/magazines must to be stored in a separately. Now does that sound like the people we should be worried about?
Compare that to the thugs who carry illegal firearms. None of the above applies to them. Yet, it's current, responsible legal gun owners or those who want to become one, who're being punished. It make no sense.
Target the illegal importation of guns from the US, including through Native reserves and have tough bail conditions and sentences for criminals who commit crimes involving guns. That's something I could get behind.
Give Trudeau credit though, it will get him votes. OTOH, it won't do a damn thing to curb gun violence. For that reason alone, it's a big fail. I honestly can't believe how many fall for his bullshit. It's truly mindboggling!
Compare that to the thugs who carry illegal firearms. None of the above applies to them. Yet, it's current, responsible legal gun owners or those who want to become one, who're being punished. It make no sense.
Target the illegal importation of guns from the US, including through Native reserves and have tough bail conditions and sentences for criminals who commit crimes involving guns. That's something I could get behind.
Give Trudeau credit though, it will get him votes. OTOH, it won't do a damn thing to curb gun violence. For that reason alone, it's a big fail. I honestly can't believe how many fall for his bullshit. It's truly mindboggling!
Somehow people who are not affected by certain laws and have no clue where the weapons that were used in crimes came from have to start looking into it deeper and consider the interests of those who are involved. Yes for many it’s a big
Hobby and they obsessively comply with all the regulations…and sales and training of
Licensed weapons is apparently a pretty big industry. All the hobbyists and those who are employed in the industry will get affected.
Very well-put, Gameboy. I commend you on your thoughtful comments. The many other leftist posters here just regurgitate the usual ant-firearms bullshit that the Coalition for Gun Control and Liberal politicians spout. Their main defense of their viewpoints is pejorative ad-hominem attacks, not reasoned arguments.
Did you know, there's 1,245 target shooting ranges in Canada. That's about the same number of McDonald's locations. When was the last time you heard of an incident at one of them?
Here's some other gun related facts. https://thegunblog.ca/facts-stats/
Gun owners are responsible people and take the privilege of ownership very seriously. Why, because the RCMP knows who they are, where they live and how many guns they have. Gangbangers don't care about the rules. And they certainly don't care about laws that affect legal gun owners. Which is pretty much the only people Trudeau is going after.
What you need to know about Canada’s proposed ban on handgun sales
The federal government has introduced a new gun control bill that it is billing as the most significant change to firearms legislation in Canada in a generation.
The agency also has a GTA specific unit, and in a briefing note prepared for a parliamentary study last year, reported that it had intercepted more than 3,700 “improperly declared replica, restricted, and prohibited firearms” since 2020.
So what about stopping those guns from coming in?
The bill would increase the maximum prison sentence for gun smuggling and trafficking offences to 14 years from the current 10 years.
It would also change immigration rules so that those who commit gun crimes would be automatically ineligible to come to Canada.
The new law would prohibit the importation of ammunition by anyone who doesn’t have a firearms licence, a measure that’s aimed at those who have illegal guns.
The bill also proposes to add firearms offences to the list of those that allow for wiretaps, to better allow for investigations of gun violence.
AND HE IS FOLLOWING THROUGH ON A PROMISE
The Liberals have previously promised to ban handguns, and their original approach was to lay the groundwork for provinces, territories and municipalities to pass laws that would allow them to ban those weapons within their jurisdictions.
In 2018 and 2019, they carried out consultations on the subject, and the final report noted the “polarized views” on the issue.
Still, that idea was part of the Liberals’ last legislative effort on guns, the previous Bill C-21 which failed to pass before the last election.
I couldn't care less if city folks aren't allowed to have, carry, own or ever shoot a handgun. They will survive and find another hobby. Good for Justin and if the Conservatives spout off about easing up on the gun bans they will pay for it at the election box.
