Trans teen Brian wins a Miss America title

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Vera.Reis

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Depends on what they're packing below the waist.

What's your definition of man and woman? You don't have one, am I right?
No you can't change your answer. You said xy with cock and balls are men, and xx with with vag and tits is women. So what gender are people with down syndrome since they fit neither of those?

I also have some follow up questions, like, what about fat guys with tits? How do we know which tits make your gender? And intersex people, what do we do with them? Does a man stop being a man if he loses his dick or balls? What about just one ball? Are women with mastectomies not women? Again does it matter if she lost just one tit, or does it have to be both? What about flat chested women?
 

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No you can't change your answer. You said xy with cock and balls are men, and xx with with vag and tits is women. So what gender are people with down syndrome since they fit neither of those?

I also have some follow up questions, like, what about fat guys with tits? How do we know which tits make your gender? And intersex people, what do we do with them? Does a man stop being a man if he loses his dick or balls? What about just one ball? Are women with mastectomies not women? Again does it matter if she lost just one tit, or does it have to be both? What about flat chested women?
You pose a lot of questions without answering any yourself. That's extremely rude.

I ask, for a third time, what is your definition of man and woman?

I'll begin answering your barrage of questions when you answer my single question.
 
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You pose a lot of questions without answering any yourself. That's extremely rude.

I ask, for a third time, what is your definition of man and woman?

I'll begin answering your barrage of questions when you answer my single question.
My answer is simple, who ever identifies as a man is a man, whoever identifies as a woman is a woman.

Now answer my questions, systematically.
 

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My answer is simple, who ever identifies as a man is a man, whoever identifies as a woman is a woman.

Now answer my questions, systematically.

How can I have a discussion with someone whose position is that there is no such thing as biological males and females.

Your definition isn't a definition at all... it's a meaningless statement.
 

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How can I have a discussion whose position is that there is no such thing as biological males and females.
Well discussions usually work by asking clarifying questions, so, please answer mine, and then if you have questions on my views I can answer yours as well.
 
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Well discussions usually work by asking clarifying questions, so, please answer mine, and then if you have questions on my views I can answer yours as well.
You have not answered my question. You have failed to define males and females. It makes as much sense as me saying that anyone who identifies as a tree is a tree.

No worthwhile discussion can be had on that basis.
 
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You have not answered my question. You have failed to define males and females. It makes as much sense as me saying that anyone who identifies as a tree is a tree.

No worthwhile discussion can be had on that basis.
Incorrect, I answered your question on my definition of man and woman, it is you who refuses to answer my questions because you don't have answers
 
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Is it really any of your business how they run their competition?

I wouldn't have made that choice either, but it's none of my business. It's THEIR competition.

How does them choosing a trans woman make your life harder?.... Answer: It doesn't. It's just something for you to whine about this morning. This sort of shit is why you people lost the mid terms so badly.
The competition is a scholarship competition now, isn't it?
I remember them making some kind of big deal about that at one point. (I don't follow pageants.)

There's no beauty competition anymore at all.
The scores are from the interviews, the talent section, the social impact plan the person has, and like general stage presence.

I think "scholarship competitions" set up this way are kind of dumb, but I get why Miss America tried to re-invent itself after becoming more and more irrelevant.
 
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You have no definitions. Once you define males and females we can continue.

I identify as a fish therefore I am one, and Vera supports me and my aquatic lifestyle.

Do you have any idea how insane your position is?
What’s your preferred bait? I love fishing 😍
 
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Her dress is gorgeous!
I don't know. It's a little over the top to me. (It may be a winner's dress though, since the other contestants all seem to have a more consistent style.)
 

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I don't know. It's a little over the top to me. (It may be a winner's dress though, since the other contestants all seem to have a more consistent style.)
Honestly, I thought so too. I don’t truly believe they are the dresses from the pageant itself. And I still think the dress would look better in purple but I am bias. LOL
 
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