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Leafs’ Finn And Bibeau Story Of Memorial Cup Tourney

London – One is the Memorial Cup’s leading plus minus player and captains the most impressive team in the tournament.

The other is a goalie who has led an upstart QMJHL team into the elimination bracket of the tournament.

It has been a winning week for Maple Leaf prospects Matt Finn of the Guelph Storm and Val-d’Or goalie Antoine Bibeau.

The 20-year-old Finn leads the tournament with a plus-eight as the Storm, the class of the field so far, await the winner of Friday’s game between Val-d’Or and the Edmonton Oil Kings.

Drafted in the second round, 35th overall in 2012, the six-foot-one Toronto native is coming off a superb campaign in which he finished plus-57 in regular season play, plus-17 in the OHL playoffs and plus-eight in the Memorial Cup.

Finn’s game is simple enough. At six-foot-one and 205 pounds, his body is NHL ready and at some points in the tournament he has chucked opposing forwards around like rag dolls. His first pass is precise, he quarterbacks the team’s defensive coverage and he has proven all but impossible to go around while retaining the puck.

“I’ve been trying to keep it simple and do the little things, win battles and get pucks up to our forwards,” said Finn. “They can take care of business on the other end. I don’t need to be in on the rush every time.”

“I think when you talk about Matt what you talk about are the details,” said Guelph coach Scott Walker. “He’s got one of the best sticks I’ve ever seen. He has a knack of getting the puck off the guy, stopping the play cold and then sending the puck the other way.”

A passable skater, Finn’s skill set will likely see him eventually end up on the second pairing as a dependable rearguard with some offence to spare.

“I think my skating has improved,” said Finn who has not scored but assisted on eight goals. “This tournament has been huge for my development.:

Finn seems unlikely to crack a Maple Leafs blue line with three other defencemen, the Marlies Stuart Percy, Andrew MacWilliam and Petter Granberg readying to challenge next season. The Leafs already have youth on defence with 20-year-old Morgan Rielly and 23-year-old Jake Gardiner.

Still, you don’t hurt yourself when you captain and command the team likely to be the best junior outfit in the country.

“Every game is a big game in this tournament,” said Finn. “When I get to the pros that’s what it’s going to be like. You’ve got to be ready every game,” he said. “That’s what teams want: players who want to win and will put their bodies on the line.”

“The bigger the game, the more of a factor he has been,” said Leafs’ vice president of hockey operations Dave Poulin. “He’s a tenacious, gutsy player. I think the whole OHL is watching his success.”

Bibeau, meanwhile, has faced more shots than any other goalie at the tournament. While Guelph’s Justin Nichols leads statistically (.941 save percentage, 2.43 goals against average as opposed to Bibeau’s .934 percentage and 2.98) Bibeau is six-foot-two, probably five inches taller than the undrafted Nichols. Bibeau’s size makes him the best pro goalie prospect at the tournament.

Bibeau started the tournament with a 1-0 win over London in which the Knights outshot Val d’Or 51-28. He was beaten for six goals in 49 shots against as Guelph handled Val d’Or 6-3 but rebounded to stop 50 shots as the Foreurs beat the Oil Kings 4-3 in double overtime.

The Leafs took Bibeau in the sixth-round of last year’s draft which isn’t terrifically surprising based on the meandering junior career of the Victoriaville, native.

“I was so happy to be drafted by the Maple Leafs,” said Bibeau, a likeable kid with a calm streak highly valued by the Foreurs coaching staff. “To be chosen by an Original Six team and an organization with the Leafs’ history was fantastic.”

As a rookie Bibeau played just three games for the old Lewiston Maineiacs and probably was not directly responsible for the team going out of business. He played two seasons for the Prince Edward Island Rocket amassing good but not spectacular numbers. The Rocket traded Bibeau to Charlottetown who in turn flipped him to Val d’Or midway through this season. At one time his rights were also held by the Gatineau Olympiques. You get the idea.

Bibeau’s play is the principal factor in the Foreur’s first Memorial Cup appearance since 2001.

“We were expecting to have a good run, maybe not winning the championship but we showed a lot of character so here we are,” he said.

Val-d’Or coach Mario Durocher said the play of his goalie hasn’t come as a shock even if Bibeau’s regular season (fifth in the league in goals against and save percentage at 2.80 and .913) weren’t especially eye-catching.

“I’m not surprised at all,” he said. “We beat him in the playoffs last year when he played for PEI but he was terrific so we knew what we were getting.”

“The goalie I would probably compare him with most would be Martin Brodeur, maybe not so much in style but in his personality,” Durocher said. “As a coach it’s wonderful when you have a goalie who is so calm in the net.”

“I don’t have one goalie I try to imitate,” Bibeau said. “I try to take good things from every goalie and come out with one style. I like how Pekke Rinne uses his size and how calm Carey Price looks when he is net so I try to borrow those pieces.”

“I think with Antoine you get a goalie who really only cares about only one statistic: wins,” said Poulin. “If he wins 7-6, he’s still happy with his night because his team got the victory.”
 

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Leafs goaltender prospect, Antoine Bibeau, stopped 50 shots but it was not enough as the Edmonton Oil Kings won in triple OT to advance to Sunday's Memorial Cup Championship game vs the favorite Guelph Storm.
I like what I see in Bibeau. 6'2" classic butterfly goalie. He made more saves this week then the other goalies faced shots.

Another Leafs prospect waits with his team for the Oil Kings on Sunday. Guelph captain Matt Finn is a defenseman who has impressed also. He is no Bobby Orr mind you but who is ?
 

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Toronto Marlies keep it rolling. Take game one of AHL West final 5-1 in Texas.
Game two goes Monday in Texas then the series comes to the Ricoh for games three Wednesday, four Thursday and five Saturday. Get your ticket now !
 

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Toronto Marlies keep it rolling. Take game one of AHL West final 5-1 in Texas.
Game two goes Monday in Texas then the series comes to the Ricoh for games three Wednesday, four Thursday and five Saturday. Get your ticket now !
If somebody didn't watch the game and just saw the score you would think it was a blow out ... Although at 8 minutes left in game the Texas's coach pulled their goalie cause the were down 3-1 and so two empty net goals made it 5-1 ... Drew MacIntyre came up big with 49 saves
 

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Ah yes, Dominic "2nd Round Pick" Moore.

Traded by the Leafs to the Sabres in 2009 for a 2nd round pick.

Traded by the Panthers to the Canadiens in 2010 for a 2nd round pick.

Traded by the Lightning to the Sharks in 2012 for a 2nd round pick.

Sign this guy as a free agent and at worst you'll get a 2nd for him.
Better yet claim him off waivers, then trade him for a second round pick LOL!
 

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What's wrong with the Leafs?

Clarkson is worth $ 5.15 Million and Dominic Moore wasn't good enough to be a Leaf.
Brian Burke does not get along with the Moore brothers. Burke was GM of the Canucks when Bertuzzi attacked Dominic Moore's brother...remember?
 

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Brian Burke does not get along with the Moore brothers. Burke was GM of the Canucks when Bertuzzi attacked Dominic Moore's brother...remember?
Don't want to be argumentive but Brian Burke claimed Moore on waivers and brought him to Toronto ( if he didn't like him why bring him to T.O ) ... Moore wanted a 3 million dollar salary but Burke didn't think he should be paid that much and so he traded him cause he knew he wouldn't resign him ... That summer
Moore got only 1.1 million on a one year deal and so in fact Burke was right and Moore's agent was wrong ..
 

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Don't want to be argumentive but Brian Burke claimed Moore on waivers and brought him to Toronto ( if he didn't like him why bring him to T.O ) ... Moore wanted a 3 million dollar salary but Burke didn't think he should be paid that much and so he traded him cause he knew he wouldn't resign him ... That summer
Moore got only 1.1 million on a one year deal and so in fact Burke was right and Moore's agent was wrong ..
My understanding was Burke wanted to resign him and made him what Burke thought was a fair offer, when that was rejected Burke traded him to Buffalo. He tested the free agent market and found his value was a lot less than what he and his agent believed. Raptorized Guy has it right.
 

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Toronto Marlies keep it rolling. Take game one of AHL West final 5-1 in Texas.
Game two goes Monday in Texas then the series comes to the Ricoh for games three Wednesday, four Thursday and five Saturday. Get your ticket now !
Toronto Marlies down 3 games to 2 win last night to force game seven ...

Carter Ashton with two goals and Drew MacIntyre with 36 in the victory:
 

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Oh well ... a nice run comes up short.

After getting out to a 2-0 lead the Marlies gave up six straight goals in losing 6-2 in last night's game seven.
 

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Oh well ... a nice run comes up short.

After getting out to a 2-0 lead the Marlies gave up six straight goals in losing 6-2 in last night's game seven.
Wow giving up a 2 goal lead in a game seven ... Where did I see that before ... All kidding aside a great run by these guys and they did it with no fan fare
 

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First draft choice overall from the Panthers+Ed Jovaniski(?) = Phaneuf+Kadri and Leafs own draft choice 8th overall. That's a rumour circulating from the Net this week.
I doubt it but nobody knows.
 

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First draft choice overall from the Panthers+Ed Jovaniski(?) = Phaneuf+Kadri and Leafs own draft choice 8th overall. That's a rumour circulating from the Net this week.
I doubt it but nobody knows.
Hard to give up the top draft pick especially for an overpaid guy like Phaneuf.
 

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First draft choice overall from the Panthers+Ed Jovaniski(?) = Phaneuf+Kadri and Leafs own draft choice 8th overall. That's a rumour circulating from the Net this week.
I doubt it but nobody knows.
Ed Jonamoski is still in the league ? I think Dion would do great in a non crazy hockey market ... Funny the last time we had a over priced defenseman which the fan base turned on we traded him to the Panthers ( Bryan McCabe )
 

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Jovo only has one year remaining at somewhere north of 4mil ... hmmmm ... make the deal and then go hard after Nashville to give up Shea Webber.
I still do not like giving up on Kadri ... 2014/15 will be his first full season under a normal schedule.

It is just a rumour anyway.
 

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Hard to give up the top draft pick especially for an overpaid guy like Phaneuf.
I don't think the Panthers would invest in a all star goalie and then remain in a rebuilding mode ... For that Panthers the deal makes sense cause you get a young forward a draft pick and a defenseman who can play in your top 4 for years to come ..
 

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Nice Read

Let’s break down and analyze the trade.

Phaneuf’s name has surfaced on a number of occasions since Brendan Shanahan became president of the Leafs, Apr. 11. Given the decision to retain coach Randy Carlyle and the extreme unlikelihood that Phil Kessel will be traded, Phaneuf provides the Blue and White its lone opportunity to alter a failed nucleus. Leafs would accomplish this by trading Phaneuf to Florida, where he would suit up alongside veteran Brian Campbell; young stalwart Erik Gudbranson and fellow defensemen/prospects Dmitry Kulikov, Colby Robak and Alex Petrovic. In a best-case scenario, the Panthers would have a good mix of experience, size and mobility on the blue line. Phaneuf has limited movement restriction in the contract he signed with Maple Leafs in late-December, though he might have enough authority to require approval for a trade to Florida. My NHL contacts don’t believe that would be much of an issue. They feel Phaneuf would likely welcome a change of scenery and a leadership role in a far-less-maniacal hockey market.

Sadly for the Maple Leafs, Kadri and Carlyle mix like gasoline and fire. It’s a player/coach relationship with very limited upside. Given that only Buffalo scored fewer goals than Florida this season, Kadri would help boost a flagging offense. And, the Panthers would still get a good prospect with the No. 8 selection in the draft. Though there is risk in trading a young, gifted player, the Maple Leafs do have enough firepower to relinquish Kadri, who might blossom under new direction. And while Campbell carries a $7.15-million cap hit for the next two seasons, Florida is swimming in space ($30,234,625 according to Capgeek.com). Tallon could easily absorb Phaneuf’s $7 million hit, thus helping his team to reach the projected cap floor of $52 million.

The Leafs have a more complicated cap situation with a number of players to contend with. Dave Bolland, Jay McClement, Nikolai Kulemin, Mason Raymond Troy Bodie, Cody Franson, Jake Gardiner, Paul Ranger and James Reimer were all deployed by the club this past season and are all either restricted or unrestricted free agents. No. 1 goalie Jonathan Bernier has one year left on his paltry $2.9-million contract and if he continues to progress as a legitimate starter, he’ll command a hefty raise. The rumored deal with Florida would slash nearly $2.9 million from the Leafs’ cap figure – that being the difference between Phaneuf and Jovanovski. Turning 38 at the end of this month, Jovanovski has one year left on his $4.125-million contract and is not certain about coming back for an 18th NHL season. He appeared in 37 games for the Panthers after undergoing nearly a complete hip replacement and would like to play again – should his body cooperate. If that were to happen, the first overall draft pick in 1994 would lend size, savvy and experience to the young, developing Leafs on the blue-line. He would assume a portion of Phaneuf’s considerable ice time while Rielly ascends into the role. If Jovanovski retires, Leafs are off the hook for his salary and would still have the first selection in this year’s draft.

To summarize, this is a deal that could help both teams. In Phaneuf, Florida would add another horse on defense and a player with a refreshed outlook. Kadri would entertain fans in Sunrise and generate much-needed offense for the Panthers. By trading Phaneuf, Leafs would form a new identity and partially dissolve the blundering Carlyle-Phaneuf-Kessel triumvirate. Toronto would add yet another terrific prospect on the blue-line. As always, a trade rumor has to be considered for what it is – pure speculation. But, this one makes a bit of sense.
 

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I don't think the Panthers would invest in a all star goalie and then remain in a rebuilding mode ... For that Panthers the deal makes sense cause you get a young forward a draft pick and a defenseman who can play in your top 4 for years to come ..
Ekblad is a cant miss prospect, Tallon is nuts if he's thinking of giving him up for Phaneuf.
 
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