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gcostanza

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Have to take your word for it. Never followed Hockey until the Leafs had just landed Gilmour. I never saw him play for Calgary.
Or St. Louis.
Gilmour was in his 9th season in the NHL when he joined Toronto.
It took him until he got to Calgary in his 6th year to start to really figure out how to play a 200' game.
 

gcostanza

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The Frederik Andersen bashers seem to have quieted down over the past 10 days or so.
Would a 1.75 g.a.a. in his past 4 games have something to do with that?
Or is it his .951 save percentage in those same 4 games?

Should we send a rescue party out to the ice flow to which he was banished?

For those about to bleat "small sample size": as rough a start as his 1st 4 games with Toronto were, his most recent 4 represent a lot closer to historical (career) numbers for Andersen.
 

smuddan

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Neither are stupid, and considering how in demand a natural centre is, they resigned Kardi. Either he develops into a consistent player, or you keep him until someone better becomes available.



Have to take your word for it. Never followed Hockey until the Leafs had just landed Gilmour. I never saw him play for Calgary.



Indeed, I'm certain that could take down most anyone lol
I know some don't like him because he doesn't drop the gloves, but that's exactly how you can be effective in today's game with fighting being phased out. You have to be able to skate with the stars to get under their skin. Just like in the Edmonton game, Lucic would come over and utter threats after McDavid was shoved and hacked but that's really nothing he could do when no Leaf wanted to fight him. He was again very effective tonight in a checking role and the Leafs won.

Kadri, Komarov and Sashnikov can form a line that other teams' top players hate to play against.
 

Insidious Von

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Still a shame the NHL wants to phase out fighting. I like the new look Oilers, and the game between Ottawa and Vancouver tonight was quite entertaining. Check out the highlights if blood doesn't turn you off.
All those fans looking on in disgust and horror (sarcasm).. but hey, the NHL knows best.
Kathleen.

Fighting makes hockey look like roller derby on ice, the NHL needs to follow the example of the NFL when it comes to fighting. Too many young men's lives have been sacrificed for the sake of cheap thrills - it's a gruesome way to earn a living. Wade Belak is proof of that. He's was part of the cast pf Goon and Liev Schreiber's personal trainer, no one suspected he would commit suicide. Goon is the best hockey film since Slapshot, Belak's death impacted it's box-office. His parts in the film were cut at the request of the family.

 

shack

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Just looked at the overall standings.

1)Leafs are tied for 3rd worst winning %age in the eastern conf.

2)Early indications are that the power has shifted from the west to the east. Western teams are being dominated in inter-conference games.
 

SkyRider

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Here's further proof of what fighting does.

Reg Flemming was a legendary fighter
Reg Fleming lived to be 73 but Bob Probert died at the relatively young life of 45. Some people think that fighting was a contributor top his premature death.
 

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Reg Fleming lived to be 73 but Bob Probert died at the relatively young life of 45. Some people think that fighting was a contributor top his premature death.
Didn't Probert have a "substance abuse" problem?
 

smuddan

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Don't think anyone expects Kadri to fight, never heard that before. Its not in his nature. My gripe is maintaining high level of play game in and out. I'd also like to see an end of the diving.

Lucic might not get you to dance, but heaven help you if he lines you up on a hit. You run McDavid, I guarantee he takes names.

Still a shame the NHL wants to phase out fighting. I like the new look Oilers, and the game between Ottawa and Vancouver tonight was quite entertaining. Check out the highlights if blood doesn't turn you off.
All those fans looking on in disgust and horror (sarcasm).. but hey, the NHL knows best.



Agree there. Has the making of being a perfect trio to shut down top lines.
Good luck to Lucic if he tries to chase after Kadri the next game. He'll probably be drawn into penalties and cost them.

They'll have the line change advantage the next game in Edmonton and they'll try to put another line on Kadri and play him real physically.
 

gcostanza

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But yes, there will always be a bad luck story too somewhere.


The problem Kathleen, is that it's not "a bad luck story...somewhere".
It's 100's of players who have had their quality of life adversely affected.
Some to the point of suicide.
 

shack

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I'm sure the same can be said of MMA fighters, and Boxing. Plus in any serious contact sport like Hockey, Football, Soccer and Lacrosse you will have concussions, head trauma, and serious injury that can have life long effects. But players know and take the risks for either money, or the love of the game.
It is one thing to endure head trauma when it occurs within the context of the sport and cannot be avoided.

It is quite another thing when these injuries occur outside the rules of the sport and can be avoided. That is the issue. Fighting is not within the rules and is not a requisite part of the sport.

Severe trauma to any part of the body can occur in skiing when a skier falls at high speed. It is part of the sport that cannot be avoided. Would you enjoy it if one skier used his pole to skewer another competitor in the throat just before he crossed the finish line. Obviously an extreme example but the concept is similar.

Here is another and probably better example. I used to really enjoy hockey when the players did not wear helmets because I could recognize the players better and it was more pleasing aesthetically to see a guy like Guy Lafleur, for example, flying down the wing with his hair flowing back due to the breeze he created with his speed. For me to continually rant about letting players play without helmets because it was more enjoyable to watch even though it put them more at risk is the same as saying we should let the players continue to bare knuckle each other into submission. The game of hockey can still be played with helmets and without fighting because the players health takes precedence.

It is time for you to give it up. Fighting does not belong in the game and should be severely dealt with as it is in football, soccer, basketball etc. Throw a punch and you are gone. Just because you enjoy it and there are other ways players can still get hurt is extremely poor justification.
 

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Agree to disagree. No problem.
 

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With Kadri's past record for cheap head shots the league should throw the book at him. And Martin can only go after a kid half his size and jump him?
 

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Martin was sending a message and was sticking up for Leo who was basically jumped by Dorsett, good on Martin for showing his teammates he has their back.

It was a fantastic game and the ACC was loud and proud. Good things are happening, lets keep it up boys!
With Kadri's past record for cheap head shots the league should throw the book at him. And Martin can only go after a kid half his size and jump him?
 

smuddan

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Don't watch many, but with nothing on caught the 2nd and 3rd of the Vancouver game. What an absolute thrilling 3rd period.

Only downside, was the hit Kadri put on Sedin. Looked to be a head shot, using forearm, and leaving his feet. I've see Kardi make some very questionable hits before, I don't like those at all. The hit by Morgan Rielly was perfectly clean. The game reminded me why I also dislike Burrows so much. I'm guessing that was a spear he put on Rielly? I couldn't see, but Morgan looked to be in much discomfort.
When Martin got into later, and drew out Miller, that was so sweet. He had three Canucks on him.

Enjoy seeing that kind of emotion, and energy in a game.
Those were more like wrestling matches than fights. Vancouver picked on guys like Rielly and Komerov who don't fight and the spear by Burrows was just as dirty as the Kadri hit. If one gets suspended the other should too.

It's good to see the great chemistry in the Bozak Marner JVR line. The Leafs are 3-0 since the promotion of Sashnikov, but Andersen has a lot to do with it too.
 

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Kadri might face disciplinary action by the league. Somehow I don't see Kadri as a goon. He simply isn't big enough to be a goon. Plus, he does have hockey skills unlike almost all goons who's only talent is goonishment (probably not a word but you know what I mean).

P.S. The worst goon in modern NHL history has to be Matt Cooke.
 

SkyRider

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Worst modern player (Though Cooke is right there too) would be Raffi Torres.
I think Torres said he was bullied as a kid because he is Latino. Flimsy excuse but that is his explanation.

BTW: Leafs are currently 5-4-3 and could possibly end the season with north of 90 points.
 

gcostanza

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Nazem Kadri will not be suspended for his hit on Daniel Sedin Saturday night.
 
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