Toronto Blue Jays 2011
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Jays are going with a 4-man rotation this week.
Litsch, Stewart and Mills have been mentioned as potential callups when they go back to a 5-man rotation.
Would like to see them give Zach Stewart another look. He pitched well when he was called up for 3 games last time. He doesn't blow you away with the fastball. He has the ability to pitch into the 7th and keep the game close. Also, his mental makeup is good. He doesn't lose it like Drabek does.
Litsch, Stewart and Mills have been mentioned as potential callups when they go back to a 5-man rotation.
Would like to see them give Zach Stewart another look. He pitched well when he was called up for 3 games last time. He doesn't blow you away with the fastball. He has the ability to pitch into the 7th and keep the game close. Also, his mental makeup is good. He doesn't lose it like Drabek does.
I would lie to see Mills as the call up. We haven't seen him this year and it would be nice to see where he is as the trade deadline approaches.
I like Stewart too but he need more work at the minor league level.
Watching J P Arencebia struggle, I wonder if the Jays wish they had left him in the minors another year. Defensively he is weak and offensively inconsistent.
I like Stewart too but he need more work at the minor league level.
Watching J P Arencebia struggle, I wonder if the Jays wish they had left him in the minors another year. Defensively he is weak and offensively inconsistent.
I think the wear and tear of a long season is getting him. Maybe platoon him with Molina for the rest of the year. I suspect he might also have a broken hand.Defensively he is weak and offensively inconsistent.
Changing subjects a little bit. What are the Jays going to do with Aaron Hill? Johnny Mac could probably play better at 2B and hit at least as good as Hill if not better but Johnny is 35 years old now.
I agree with splitting the remaining games between Arencibia and Molina. Other than his 15 homers, Arencibia hasn't done much with the bat. A couple of off days here and there could leave him fresher for the games he does catch.
I've always liked Hill. The old Hill was a hit machine who made good plays in the field. I wasn't pleased when AA didn't pick up his options at the start of the season. Now it looks like a smart move by AA. This season, Hill has struggled with some injuries. He's not hitting like he used to. Balls get by him in the field more than before. He is making some nice steals as a result of the Jays new running game. If I were AA, I would tear up the options in place and sign him to a more club friendly 2-3 year deal.
I can envision a future playoff contending infield of 1B Lind, 2B Hechavarria, SS Escobar and 3B Lawrie. Right now, we don't know if Lawrie and Hechavarria will come through on their potential. And because of that unknown, I would keep Hill in the fold.
I've always liked Hill. The old Hill was a hit machine who made good plays in the field. I wasn't pleased when AA didn't pick up his options at the start of the season. Now it looks like a smart move by AA. This season, Hill has struggled with some injuries. He's not hitting like he used to. Balls get by him in the field more than before. He is making some nice steals as a result of the Jays new running game. If I were AA, I would tear up the options in place and sign him to a more club friendly 2-3 year deal.
I can envision a future playoff contending infield of 1B Lind, 2B Hechavarria, SS Escobar and 3B Lawrie. Right now, we don't know if Lawrie and Hechavarria will come through on their potential. And because of that unknown, I would keep Hill in the fold.
You can put Johnny mac into any defensive position, and I'm sure he'll get the job done , I'm not sure on this, but I think he can even be a catcher.I think the wear and tear of a long season is getting him. Maybe platoon him with Molina for the rest of the year. I suspect he might also have a broken hand.
Changing subjects a little bit. What are the Jays going to do with Aaron Hill? Johnny Mac could probably play better at 2B and hit at least as good as Hill if not better but Johnny is 35 years old now.
But his batting average is pretty much the same as Hill's, Hill still has more HR's than Johnny, and is stealing a good number of bases this year, and is 8 years younger than Johnny.
They are both Free agents next year. I can see the jays signing them both to contracts and see what happens , Hill is a risk but we know what he is capable of.
I want the Jays to sign Johnny as well, he'll never be an offensive threat, but he has that glove.
For sure the Jays don't give a rat's ass if their (hopefully) catcher of the near and distant future causes permanent damage by playing through this type of injury not to speak of the damage to his confidence by not being able to bat properly.I suspect he might also have a broken hand.
Where do you come up with nonsense like this?
Right on. I'd also like to see Stewart get the 5th spot. He was the key piece in the Rolen deal, and has good stuff (low 90's FB, with a shitload of movement). Mills is a journeyman and Litsch just plain sucks. The only people that seem to like Litsch is the media, wilth Wilner as fanclub chairman.Jays are going with a 4-man rotation this week.
Litsch, Stewart and Mills have been mentioned as potential callups when they go back to a 5-man rotation.
Would like to see them give Zach Stewart another look. He pitched well when he was called up for 3 games last time. He doesn't blow you away with the fastball. He has the ability to pitch into the 7th and keep the game close. Also, his mental makeup is good. He doesn't lose it like Drabek does.
Simple. I watch games on TV and saw him take at least 2 foul tips off his bare thumb. For what its worth Google "Arencebia thumb" and you'll get 200,000 hits. Query: Where do you get your nonsense?Where do you come up with nonsense like this?
So you figure the Jays are letting him play with a broken thumb/hand?Simple. I watch games on TV and saw him take at least 2 foul tips off his bare thumb. For what its worth Google "Arencebia thumb" and you'll get 200,000 hits. Query: Where do you get your nonsense?
you start by building up the middle so at the moment they need a catcher a centrefielder and maybe a second baseman. Pitching needs another starter, need a closer and some help that can throw strikes. Team is further away from being a contender than they want you to believe. Farm system is developing and that is where the bulk of the help will have to come from.What is the one position the Jays should try to correct most for 2012 ?
- Closer ?
- Infieder ... maybe Longoria from Tampa ?
- Outfielder ... maybe Kemp from LAD ?
- Starting Pitcher
I would say closer, once you have a guy you know who can close games , it's starts a domino effect where the entire bullpen falls into place and they play in the roles that suit them best, which in turn helps the starting rotation.What is the one position the Jays should try to correct most for 2012 ?
- Closer ?
- Infieder ... maybe Longoria from Tampa ?
- Outfielder ... maybe Kemp from LAD ?
- Starting Pitcher
Athletes play hurt all the time. Just to make you happy, let's change "broken" to "damaged" hand. I think his batting average dropped from .250 to .210 because he played with a damaged hand. However, his damaged hand might have healed by now. (I don't rule out the possibility that he might have suffered a hairline fracture in his hand --- i.e. broken hand.)So you figure the Jays are letting him play with a broken thumb/hand?
You're right. Now I'm happy.Athletes play hurt all the time. Just to make you happy, let's change "broken" to "damaged" hand.
My point is the club would not risk playing him if there was the possibility of long term/permanent damage which is clearly the case with a broken bone (even hairline).
I would be surprised if he had any type of fracture in his hand. Hitting a ball would be unbelievably painful. I don't think the Jays management would want to risk any permanent damage to the hand by allowing him to play with a fracture. If he played with a fracture and the hand was further damage, it could result in surgery which could me long term on the IR or even career ending.
The Jays are simply a bunch of too nice guys. The Orioles hit Bautista in the head and nobody does nothing. Why can't our pitchers become mean SOB's once in a while? Have our pitchers hit any opposing batters this year?
That was unintentional. The count was 0-2 no reason to hit him, on a 3-0 count if he's hit probably intentional. Another thing if its intentional the Baltimore players don't react, they just stand there, in this case the catcher is the first to check on Bautista and the pitcher is visibly upset. If there was any thought of it being intentional there would have been retalliation.
The Frasor/Jackson/Stewart/Teahen trade seems like a trade for the sake of doing something... although with Litsch a question mark, Reyes gone and Villanueva equally adept as starter or reliever, it may strengthen the BJ's pitching staff...
Nevertheless, sorry to see Frasor gone; he is a good pitcher with the occasional fuck-up, just like everyone else...
Teahen? Could the BJ's be exploring the possibility of Lawrie at second?
Of course, unless this is a trade in anticipation of a further trade.
Perry
Nevertheless, sorry to see Frasor gone; he is a good pitcher with the occasional fuck-up, just like everyone else...
Teahen? Could the BJ's be exploring the possibility of Lawrie at second?
Of course, unless this is a trade in anticipation of a further trade.
Perry
Trade with Cardinals.
After acquiring Edwin Jackson from the White Sox, the Blue Jays have traded him to the Cardinals in an eight-player trade that sends outfielder Colby Rasmus.
Toronto gets Rasmus, Trever Miller, Brian Tallet and P.J. Walters.
Cards get Jackson, Marc Rzepczynski, Octavio Dotel and Corey Patterson.
After acquiring Edwin Jackson from the White Sox, the Blue Jays have traded him to the Cardinals in an eight-player trade that sends outfielder Colby Rasmus.
Toronto gets Rasmus, Trever Miller, Brian Tallet and P.J. Walters.
Cards get Jackson, Marc Rzepczynski, Octavio Dotel and Corey Patterson.
