To all our Tamil brothers...

[masterchief]

Well, its a tragedy that some of you must be held up in traffic for an extra 10 minutes.

Well it’s not 10 minutes, it’s the permanent closure of a major arterial roadway that is impacting the response time to 4 major hospitals.

So when your loved one arrives DOA because they have to be diverted from taking a 4 lane boulevard to medical aid…maybe we can roll out eyes.

The Tamils are protesting in front of the US Consulate in an attempt to pressure the US and Canadian governments to become engaged diplomatically with the Sri Lankan government. The fact that the consulate in question processes green card applications is irrelevant.

No it isn’t. There is no one there that can respond to their protests. That would be like me protesting my local TTC ticket vendor because I’m mad at the TTC for a fare increase.

Why not actually go to a place where your voices can be heard. Like I don’t know…..the seat of the federal government of Canada and the Embassy of the US. What, is Toronto City Council going to issue a proclamation. or the provincial government?

Come on

Let also not forget that this is an illegal protest by a group classified as terrorists. So I guess if some nice neo-nazi’s or Somali Pirates were out there protesting you’d be okay with that too?

Congratulatons guys, on elevating the level of debate from ignorance to racist and hateful. I pity you that you have to live such a miserable existance.

Well my posts were not ignorance or racist. But it’s nice that the only way you can have any sort of discussion on a topic is to make insults.

rolleyes

 

[escortsxxx]

Well I m for the right to protest, important part of demorcray. Btu the Tigers, like the Chinese manufacteur these marches by a combination of propaganda and fear. A few people where inteviered with the last protest saying they where intimidated with threats of violence to show up. Ironically the speed in which they organized is in response to the Lebonese crisis when they wher einterviewing a leader of the Tigers and he said "why don't you care about us (media for Tigers) like you care about this group, and the interview answered, well if Canadians cared their would be marches like for this cause . .. soon thereafter marches galore and tonnes of media coverage. You can blame that interviewer for the stoppage of traffic . . .

 

[escortsxxx]

The Point

Well it’s not 10 minutes, it’s the permanent closure of a major arterial roadway that is impacting the response time to 4 major hospitals.

So when your loved one arrives DOA because they have to be diverted from taking a 4 lane boulevard to medical aid…maybe we can roll out eyes.




No it isn’t. There is no one there that can respond to their protests. That would be like me protesting my local TTC ticket vendor because I’m mad at the TTC for a fare increase.

Why not actually go to a place where your voices can be heard. Like I don’t know…..the seat of the federal government of Canada and the Embassy of the US. What, is Toronto City Council going to issue a proclamation. or the provincial government?

Come on

Let also not forget that this is an illegal protest by a group classified as terrorists. So I guess if some nice neo-nazi’s or Somali Pirates were out there protesting you’d be okay with that too?


Well my posts were not ignorance or racist. But it’s nice that the only way you can have any sort of discussion on a topic is to make insults.

rolleyes

THE POINT is not to effect goverment, it s to be in the eyes of journalists and make copy. Once journalist are forced to research the topic they will milk it since its easy to do so (they have already studied up on it) and the press departments of MPs will get worried; if nothing more than people complaining about traffic. There is no bad press after all.

 

[Tao]

What would you do if your family members were being killed?

I dunno perhaps get off the fucken street and fly home to help them.

 

[Questor]

Well my posts were not ignorance or racist. But it’s nice that the only way you can have any sort of discussion on a topic is to make insults.
rolleyes

Read again what you said. First, you label an entire ethnic group as welfare bums and terrorist supporters. Then you suggest we turn our backs while thousands are murdered.

I think you are confusing Tamils with a subset of the larger group, Tamil Tigers.

That's too easy and too logical. Unless there was a way to go there and still collect thier welfare cheque. It's more lucarative for them to be here and terrorize thier own ocmmunity into giving money to the Tamil Tigers.

I say we turn out backs and tv cameras from Sri Lanka for two weeks and let the government finish them off.

The above is racist, hateful and inflamatory.

On the other hand, what you have written elsewhere, and quoted below, is more reasoned, arguably valid, and so I must conclude that you do have a brain. I wish you had used it in your original post.

The location of the hospitals is a legitimate concern, but the closure of University Ave is hardly permanent.

Well it’s not 10 minutes, it’s the permanent closure of a major arterial roadway that is impacting the response time to 4 major hospitals.

So when your loved one arrives DOA because they have to be diverted from taking a 4 lane boulevard to medical aid…maybe we can roll out eyes.

But then you are just getting silly again. Toronto has a large Tamil population. They are concerned for the lives of their relatives. There may be Tamils protesting in Ottawa and Washington. But the ones in Toronto are here, not there. They have chosen their targets strategically from those targets available to them. Obviously there is no one inside the American consulate that will respond to their demands. But rest assured that those who can respond are aware of their actions. That is why the Tamils are there. If the head office of the TTC was in Washington, people might resort to protesting ticket prices at a local subway stop. But since the head office is at Davisville, your example is just plain silly.

No it isn’t. There is no one there that can respond to their protests. That would be like me protesting my local TTC ticket vendor because I’m mad at the TTC for a fare increase.

Why not actually go to a place where your voices can be heard. Like I don’t know…..the seat of the federal government of Canada and the Embassy of the US. What, is Toronto City Council going to issue a proclamation. or the provincial government?

Come on

Let also not forget that this is an illegal protest by a group classified as terrorists. So I guess if some nice neo-nazi’s or Somali Pirates were out there protesting you’d be okay with that too?

I think it would depend on what the neo-nazis were protesting. But you are confusing an ethnic group, the Tamils, with a political group, the Tamil Tigers. This group on University Ave. wants US government to intervene diplomatically in order to avoid a blood bath that is allegedly taking place against civilians, not guerrilla fighters. You see the difference?

 

[fuji]

I think you are confusing Tamils with a subset of the larger group, Tamil Tigers.

Nearly all of the Tamil's I saw were waving LTTE flags. It seems to me like they are ALL supporters of the LTTE. At least all the ones who are protesting are LTTE.

I would have had sympathy for them but for that.

 

[masterchief]

Read again what you said. First, you label an entire ethnic group as welfare bums and terrorist supporters. Then you suggest we turn our backs while thousands are murdered.

I think you are confusing Tamils with a subset of the larger group, Tamil Tigers.

Well, standing out there on University Avenue I saw the flags of the Tamil Tigers being proudly flown, as well as banners, and slogans being hurled.

So I’d beg to differ and I can clearly state that I’m not confused since I don’t see any Tamils trying to distance themselves or admonish a terrorist group being past of their illegal demonstration.

The location of the hospitals is a legitimate concern, but the closure of University Ave is hardly permanent.

I also beg to differ since both the North and South lanes were closed all day yesterday until about 7 am this morning when the police attempted to free up the southbound lane were violently resisted by the protestors.

Right now…only southbound traffic for emergency vehicles is being maintained…by a heavy police presence.

But I guess that’s your definition of Temporary.

But then you are just getting silly again. Toronto has a large Tamil population. They are concerned for the lives of their relatives. There may be Tamils protesting in Ottawa and Washington.

But we know for a fact that there are not. They are here causing a nuisance to get publicity for the plight of the Tamil Tigers out in the media. Once again, a Terrorist organization, with a well documented history of intimidation or ex-patriots.

I think it would depend on what the neo-nazis were protesting. But you are confusing an ethnic group, the Tamils, with a political group, the Tamil Tigers. This group on University Ave. wants US government to intervene diplomatically in order to avoid a blood bath that is allegedly taking place against civilians, not guerrilla fighters. You see the difference?

Well I’m sorry…but this is a conflict on sovereign soil by a legitimate elected government defending itself not from some rag-tag guerrillas but a well funded, organized private army that is using human shields to save their own skins. The Sri Lankan government is fully within its powers to deal with this is a way that they see fit.

I’m sorry that innocent people are caught in the middle. But who is holding them in the middle of the warzone? Who entrenched themselves there?

As for the confusion of Tamils versus Tamil Tigers, as long as one Tamil Tiger flag is flying in that protest the whole group since they are allowing it to be displayed must be painted with the same brush

 

[fuji]

as long as one Tamil Tiger flag is flying in that protest the whole group since they are allowing it to be displayed must be painted with the same brush

Well that goes too far--the group might ignore a few fringe wing-nuts. Hoewver it's a moot point.

They are almost ALL flying LTTE flags or displaying other LTTE paraphanalia. Every one of them. I don't know whether ALL Tamils support the LTTE or whether it's just the LTTE supporters that are out protesting.

Plainly ALL of the people protesting on University are LTTE sympathizers or even LTTE members.

 

[curious newbee]

Tamils are civilians...Tamil Tigers are a terrorist group. The government, in their effort to get rid of the Tamil Tigers have most likely killed civilians...and I'm guessing that in most cases, they were being used as sheilds by these cowards, the Tamil Tigers. Now that they're on the brink of elimination, they're calling for a cease fire to let the 'civilians' out. I'm sure these cowards will mix in with the civilians to escape if given the chance.

As for the protest, don't bitch that you're protesting to save the lives of your relatives while flying the Tamil Tiger flags and banners. As long as you fly that, you're protest doesn't hold very much merit with the public or the government. You would get more public support if you didn't fly the Tamil Tiger flags and completely disassociated yourself from the terrorist group. As long as you continue to support the Tamil Tigers in any sort of way, you're a disgrace to the innocent civilians whom you claim to protest on behalf of.

 

[train]

What would you do if your family members were being killed?

The ignorance and intolerance expressed on this web page around some political issues is mind boggling.

Well, I sure as hell wouldn't be wasting my time marching around in a street 10,000 miles away holding up a protest sign trying to convince some no account diplomat 500 hundred miles away to stand up at the UN and say " Naughty Boy !" to the Sri Lankins before sitting down with a self satisfied grin on his face.

The level of stupidity of protesters of political issues who think this is actually going to accomplish something is what is mind boggling.

 

[Quest4Less]

Your 'right' to protest ends when it interferes (sp?) with the publics 'right' to get around.

 

[KBear]

Your 'right' to protest ends when it interferes (sp?) with the publics 'right' to get around.

Agree, these protests that block roads and interfere with other peoples right to move around freely should be ended.

 

[onthebottom]

Well, its a tragedy that some of you must be held up in traffic for an extra 10 minutes.

The Tamils are protesting in front of the US Consulate in an attempt to pressure the US and Canadian governments to become engaged diplomatically with the Sri Lankan government. The fact that the consulate in question processes green card applications is irrelevant. The Sri Lankan government has surrounded the last of the Tamil Tigers along with thousands of civilians and killing people who attempt to escape. Yes, media exposure is the goal of the protest. Without media coverage, the US and Canadian governments will not take a position on this issue.

What would you do if your family members were being killed?

The ignorance and intolerance expressed on this web page around some political issues is mind boggling.

I thought the world wanted less meddling by the US?

OTB

 

[alwayslooking]

I thought the world wanted less meddling by the US?

OTB

I've thought this for a while now. The US is in a damned if they do and damned if they don't position now. Same thing with the former Yugoslavian clashes in the '90's. Clinton was criticized for not intervening but if US troops are sent in than they are called an imperialist empire. Around 2002 Israel was pounding Yasser Arafat and guess who he called so Israel would call off the dogs?

Basically everyone hates the US until they need their help.

 

[fuji]

I thought the world wanted less meddling by the US?

I have been thinking about this.. I doubt very much the people who organized this believe it is going to have any political impact whatsoever, I think they are motivated by something else.

Money.

I think the purpose of the protest is to get the Tamil community worked up and "energized" so that the hat can be passed around and large sums of money extracted.

I bet LTTE agents in Toronto have been working the crowd, creating peer pressure, and guilting Tamils into forking over some very large sums of money as "donations" for the cause.

If they were intersted in having a political effect they would put the fucking LTTE flags away--but if it's really an LTTE funding drive aimed at the Tamil population then it makes perfect sense that they'd want LTTE flags, slogans, paraphanalia everywhere. That also explains why it's in front of the US consulate--University Ave. is nice and public, and the consulate makes it feel important, and that's all good news for the cheque collectors.

 

[train]

I thought the world wanted less meddling by the US?

OTB

That would be the majority.

 

[TeflonJohn]

Pack them up in a crate and send them all home...... OR GET THE FUCK OFF THE ROAD!

 

[TeflonJohn]

Cops are ending it after today.

They should have never let it start. I already know what is goign to happen when the cops try to end it and the tamils dont want it to end.

TASER TIME!

 

[shaved]

Look first of all who gives a shit.

If they are so concerned about there country go back there and protest chicken shits. There is no point in protesting here in Canada back in your homeland they don't even see your stupid protest nor do they care. Since the begining of time that side of the world has done nothing but fight and kill one another. That's why they were born there and we were born in North America,but some A hole PM named Trudeau wrote the Charter of Rights and Freedoms that only benefits anybody but a real Canadian. Someone should dig him kick him in the ass then shove him back where he came from. If you are a law obiding citizen you'll never need it.
My answer if I were the PM re write the Charter, or do as Quebec does use the not with standing clause. Then close the Immigration close the doors to our country like Switzerland. Find all the illegals and deport them. Clean up this country, all the young men and women who fought for this country in WW 1 and 2 must be rolling over in there graves why did I give up my life for.
Or we could buy them all a vacation to Mexico thru Conquest. Then no worries they aren't coming back.
All these protesters should be given a bill for the portion of the bill for the babysitting fee. Do these people have jobs how are they able to have so much spare time on there hands.
This country should fly the PC flag.
Real Canadians should grow some balls and speak up. All the left wingers and tree huggers are the biggest problem in this country too.

 

[masterchief]

They should have never let it start. I already know what is goign to happen when the cops try to end it and the tamils dont want it to end.

Well that already kind of happened this morning when the police tried to contain them in the northbound lane of University Ave, so they could keep the southbound lane open for Emergency Services.

It was on the news this morning, with LTTE supporters trying to get caught on camera being manhandled by the police for the future lawsuit.

Personally I say, let them go up to the US Consolate, right onto the sidewalk (which is techincally US soil) so they can be arrested (or shot) by the Marines inside.