To all our Tamil brothers...

[tboy]

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3. Generally speaking, since the perpetrator and the victim are seen as people unaffiliated to the general Canadian population, thhere is a sense of apathy and ignorance about the human rights issue in SL. When a bunch of white english speaking people were driven out by the Kenyan government, there was an internatioanl (read western) uproar. When a bunch of SL guys kill a bunch of Tamil guys, a regular guy in Canada thinks "who gives a fuck".

Raj: but the same could be said about tamils, when that white chick went missing up north, how many volunteered to search? How many tamils rushed to New Orleans after Katrina? I'd say very few or none.

But you have to admit that the west rushes quite often to other countries to step in where necessary.

Also, I'm sorry to say but any citizen who rebels against their government is a rebel and many resort to terrorism to facilitate their rebellion. I'm not going to debate the definition of terrorist but I'd have to say that any group that targets non-combatants or uses them in any way is a terrorist.

 

[tboy]

Then there is the other example. Mugabe thugs steal farmland from white farmers and kill them if they resist. Where is the international uproar?

The larger moral question is when and where we should meddle in the affairs of other people. Whether that be in Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, Darfur, Iraq, North Korea, Burma, etc. The list is a long one.

Exactly my point I made to a local radio station when they were bitching about the US getting involved in so many foreign affairs. I basically said: the US is the world's police force and terb is a great example of what people think of the police.....and if the US is requested to step in? They are damned for stepping in and damned for not.......

 

[raj_sekar_100]

Raj: but the same could be said about tamils, when that white chick went missing up north, how many volunteered to search? How many tamils rushed to New Orleans after Katrina? I'd say very few or none.

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Agree with you on this point. Karma is a bitch!

 

[Rockslinger]

But you have to admit that the west rushes quite often to other countries to step in where necessary.

So true. When there is an earthquake in Pakistan, tsunami in Sri Lanka, famine in Somalia, etc., we are there. Sometimes all the thanks we get are shoes thrown at us or have our white Christian women kidnapped and held for ransom.

 

[raj_sekar_100]

So true. When there is an earthquake in Pakistan, tsunami in Sri Lanka, famine in Somalia, etc., we are there. Sometimes all the thanks we get are shoes thrown at us or have our white Christian women kidnapped and held for ransom.

Yes, in the hour of need, the rich help the poor. You don't get mad that the panhandlers never give out money to you, right? After the tsunami, India did not need any help and graciously rejected financial assistance. At the same time countries like China and India offered help to other affected countries. Some of us may not be aware of this, just like our southern neighbour usually forgets that we are fighting with them in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Shoes being thrown at us (c'mon it is just Bush) and white Christian women being kidnapped have nothing to do with the assistance provided during man-made or natural disasters. BTW, I dont know why you single out white Christian women here.. Men and women of all races and color have been kidnapped by terrorists. Did you forget that Korean women were kindapped by the Talibans sometime back. See this - http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSISL22973920070809

, or that brown Hindu men were also kidnapped by the Talibans.
see this - http://www.asiantribune.com/oldsite/show_news.php?id=16206

 

[The LoLRus]

Then there is the other example. Mugabe thugs steal farmland from white farmers and kill them if they resist. Where is the international uproar?

That would be racist to have an uproar about people being killed and raped

 

[Mencken]

OK, this is a long long thread so let me contribute my own 2 cents here.

1. Tamils are not terrorists. Someone mentioned that in the thread here. You can call LTTE or LTTE supporters as terrorists. Let me enlighten you here. Tamil ethnic community hail from the southern part of India. Many many years ago, some of them were transported to Sri Lanka to work on the tea plantation. So when someone says Tamil dont confuse him/her with SL Tamil. He could be from SL or India or Malaysia or Singapore. Tamils from India tend to be more educated.

2. Generally speaking, the Tamil refugees frm SL are people who were driven out of their villages from the SL government. They are not the most sophisticated and educated people. They way they bring up their kids is best left unwritten. This is reflected in the way they are protesting a totally legit grievance. It is unsophisticated and annoying, but their grievance is REAL.

3. Generally speaking, since the perpetrator and the victim are seen as people unaffiliated to the general Canadian population, thhere is a sense of apathy and ignorance about the human rights issue in SL. When a bunch of white english speaking people were driven out by the Kenyan government, there was an internatioanl (read western) uproar. When a bunch of SL guys kill a bunch of Tamil guys, a regular guy in Canada thinks "who gives a fuck".

When the english speaking white guys were driven out of Kenya no one intervened either.

What about when the Tamil Tigers kill a bunch of SL guys. I have had friends over there that feared for their lives because of these...whatever you want to call them. Freedom fighters or terrorists.

Problem is that when you start an armed rebellion against a government...for reasons you consider valid and just (i.e. your human rights, for example) you have chosen to fight a war, and people on both sides get killed, as well as a lot of innocent people.

Yes, it is probably very unfortunate that the world did not put some pressure on the government there in times past to treat Tamils better. Before people felt the need for armed rebellion.

 

[Don]

They want the US and Canada to get involved and enforce the ceasefire so that thier Tamil Tiger relatives can escape being caught and captured for thier crimes. Remember that this is a terrorist group that has entrentched itself into a populated area and is denying thier human shields from leaving.

Of course if the US actually did get invovled..you know they'd protest that they were there in thier god-forsaken shit-hole of a country.

That is one of the biggest hypocrisies that bug me... the world wants the USA to stay out of everyone's business but at the same time they will complain that the USA isn't doing anything when it is a particular cause that they are concerned about. T

 

[preciate it]

Don's right.

Remember the 90's? "Why won't anyone (i.e. the States) DO something about the Taliban?" "And Saddam is a butcher! Get him out of Iraq!"

2000's: "Why won't the Americans (and Canadians, etc ) get out of Afghanistan and Iraq?"

 

[Don]

Heck just look right now at the Hollywood liberals demanding USA remove their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan and stop sending troops in a foreign hostile land but at the same time they are crying over Dafur and how the USA needs to get involved.

 

[Thunderballs]

I can`t help but think that somehow Ray Liotta is behind all this.
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=235205 see post#17

 

[Rockslinger]

Heck just look right now at the Hollywood liberals demanding USA remove their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan but at the same time they are crying over Dafur and how the USA needs to get involved.

There is a reason why they are called the "LOONY Liberal Left".

 

[wet_suit_one]

By reading this thread, one can learn a great deal about human nature.

A wise person (not me of course, some of you wiser types) would say nothing here, read and learn what this thread has to teach about your fellow human beings...

Peace.