If you go back to Questor's original post, if he had just left out the final sentence, I don't think anybody would've jumped on him. If he would've just left it at, "I don't think Tiger will catch Jack," that would've been his prediction, and that's fine. But when he ends by saying, "Jack will always be the greatest," with such ridiculous certainty, I think that was where the posters here took issue. Yes, Tiger's pace of major victories is slightly lower than it was a few years ago, but his overall victory pace is the same at just over 30%. Perhaps he won't catch Jack. Nobody's saying it's impossible that he won't. What we're saying is that when everything is taken into consideration, it's highly unlikely that he will not surpass the record, and concluding that Jack will always be the greatest is laughable.
Tiger is losing steam
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Good post. I agree. Mind you, I took his "Jack..greatest" line just as a playful jab that probably he didn't even take seriously, since unless Tiger gets 3 or 4 or 5 more majors than Jack, their careers will have been fairly similar, with no clear cut winner. They will have each been the best of their respective eras and as has been discussed in regards to other sports it so hard to compare athletes from different eras.
Well, in that case, let it be a lesson to you that you'd better be careful when joking around with cultists. They take things very seriously when it comes to the object of their passion. Sort of like the Scientologists or Muslims with the Danish cartoons.Correct.
ROFL Lesson learned! I know now that such statements can be considered as evidence of ridiculous certainty and will be viewed as laughable. Tiger is a very serious topic.
Tiger's car accident
With today's incident and more importantly, what the cause was, we see an illustration of the unpredictable events that occur in one's life which may provide extra obstacles or distractions to someone like Tiger in pursuit of a difficult goal.
Given Tiger's mental toughness, it may not affect him at all. But for sure, it ain't gonna help.
With today's incident and more importantly, what the cause was, we see an illustration of the unpredictable events that occur in one's life which may provide extra obstacles or distractions to someone like Tiger in pursuit of a difficult goal.
Given Tiger's mental toughness, it may not affect him at all. But for sure, it ain't gonna help.
Shack, for sure something like this can affect his game. Not just the accident, but if the rumours about marital difficulties are true, then that could be very destablizing.
I noticed one of the Tiger cultists was getting upset in another thread with people speculating what really went down that night.
I noticed one of the Tiger cultists was getting upset in another thread with people speculating what really went down that night.
I'm heading over there now.
Breaking Jack's record is not a gimme (to use golf parlance).
Tiger's personal life is in turmoil. I wish him all the best, but I wonder if he does have 10 good years left. Golf is such a mental game, I would be surprised if he had a good year in 2010.
I would say what he is experiencing right now is very similar to a bolt of lightening. Your words were prophetic.
If I was a betting man, I would bet that those Vegas odds have changed already.
However, golf is the type of game, that sometimes when you try too hard it throws you off. Tiger has always had the proper mindset and routine to be successful. Having some misplaced extraneous motivation may throw off the balanced approach he's had.
Or, as you say, this could help him tear it up on the course.
One thing for sure, he'll be more interesting than ever to watch, to see what happens.
You are right. We don't know. He could refocus and tear up the course. But something tells me, from the way this whole thing is playing out, that he will be focusing on family for the next while. This is why I think he might lose the balance that he normally has. Certainly, he will be more interesting to watch, just to see how it affects him, how he carries himself.
I'm sure there will be more than a few boos.
I've lost all respect for him. Not because of his infedelity but because he continually neglected his fans. Most of the time he was arrogant and rude (never signed autographs) and apparently too busy banging cocktail waitresses to give his fans the time of day.
From now on Phil Mickelson is my man. At least he appreciates his fans.
You know what they say. One man's loss is another man's gain.
Mickelson has a chance to cash in big time if can just win a few tournaments and work the press the right way.
He'll never be tiger but he could be more popular than he would have been otherwise.
Mickelson has a chance to cash in big time if can just win a few tournaments and work the press the right way.
He'll never be tiger but he could be more popular than he would have been otherwise.
I think this is a reason why a lot of people are revelling in his social downfall. He was perceived as cold and distant to other competitors on the circuit, - most conversations consisting of generic pleasantries.
Ie he never had a "real" or relaxed, authentic, conversation with anyone with free flowing give and take.
He was so stiff, and formal, and standoffish to ensure his isolation and separation from his competitors.
And he's kind of a hypocrite because he always ensured that people in his employ were tightly buttoned down like marines out of West Point. He wants his employees quiet and under the radar while he secretly acts like the great whore of babylon on the side.
Eg. -he read the riot act to Steve Williams, his caddy, a year or so ago when Williams made a couple of competitive, derogatory jabs at Phil Mickelson to a newspaper journalist.
And in 1999 he fired his original caddy, Fluff Cowan, because Cowan was an aging free thinking hippie deadhead (Cowan is a huge fan of Greatful Dead) who was attracting media attention by dating women 25 years younger than he was and generally acting like a tier 2 rock star. (Cowan eventually married a girl 23 years younger than himself.)
Again, Tiger Woods expecting his employees to act like Bhuddist monks while he roams the earth like a hound dog banging anything with a skirt as if he was the reincarnation of Rolling Stone Brian Jones circa 1965.
What a phony.
In light of Tiger pulling out after a 6 over front 9 yesterday, it made me remember and resurrect this thread.
Love reading the posts of the "oh so certain, no way Tiger can fail" acolytes.
I especially enjoy reading the posts of maurice and Asterix.
I will still even admit anything can happen and he may yet come back to former glory. The point was to maybe hear those people who refused to acknowledge that it was even a reasonable possibility, recant their statements.
I might even take 10:1 odds from Asterix now.
Love reading the posts of the "oh so certain, no way Tiger can fail" acolytes.
I especially enjoy reading the posts of maurice and Asterix.
I will still even admit anything can happen and he may yet come back to former glory. The point was to maybe hear those people who refused to acknowledge that it was even a reasonable possibility, recant their statements.
I might even take 10:1 odds from Asterix now.
Tiger was not ready to play due to physical ailments but apparently he was pressured by the PGA to do so. He is still the biggest story in golf and the PGA needs him.In light of Tiger pulling out after a 6 over front 9 yesterday, it made me remember and resurrect this thread.
Love reading the posts of the "oh so certain, no way Tiger can fail" acolytes.
I especially enjoy reading the posts of maurice and Asterix.
I will still even admit anything can happen and he may yet come back to former glory. The point was to maybe hear those people who refused to acknowledge that it was even a reasonable possibility, recant their statements.
I might even take 10:1 odds from Asterix now.
