Thoughts on this enquiry response?

[mandrill]

But isn't the fantasy part of the gig, the thing that separates the great ladies from the also-rans? I've used the metaphor pro WWE wrestling for this industry - don't ask if it's real, only ask if you were entertained. If an actor in a play just read their lines...then said hey im only paid to read the lines - you'd say the play sucked. Part of the fantasy is the undivided attention of a lady out of your league. If you got half a working brain you know not to think she's wanting to date you for real. Just enjoy the ride, and let it take yourself to a different place. My A team ladies do that they bloody well make time stop. I don't feel my age around them. That's why they get my ...attention, and why I happily stand up and recommend them because they deserve it for knocking the socks off an old bugger like me.

However, in defence of the ladies, we blokes gotta make it easy for them to create the fantasy by understanding it's a biz and not ring them at all hours and only reach out if serious about booking.

Opens up a whole new can of worms re ladies who display photos of their rl SO 30 year old stud, muscleman boyfriends on their Twitter pages!

I mean, us old farts know that the ladies can do better than us, but do we have to have our noses rubbed in it right off the bat!?

 

[Perry Mason]

I just read this thread. Interesting read...

For me, the elephant in the room is a simple word: chemistry. Or, at least, to minimize the risk of its dismal absence. Much more so than in any other purchase of goods or services, I have always felt the need to satisfy myself on that question before deciding whether or not to book. I don't look for chemistry when I buy a car... even though I much prefer a happy, personable salesperson.

In the old days, the very old days, client and SP met face to face on the streets, a bar or wherever... often, a brothel. A little bit of banter was a natural part of the mating dance and answered the question "go or no go?" Still the same in massage parlors.

Then, the initial contact was on the phone: the sound of the voice and the way the conversation unfolded was a reliable enough indicator.

But there is no way for me to test for chemistry from reading a website.

I assume TERB helps somehow. But, ultimately, just because the SP and some other guy click, does not mean that she and I will. That has to be my own, personal, gut feeling...

The mating dance is by its nature very personal... if the ladies want to keep the booking line exclusively for booking -- and I do understand the logic -- perhaps they should set up a separate line for bantering????

I think some ladies don't really understand how important marketing is for the ultimate success in what they do. All professionals supposedly "waste" a lot of time by directly engaging with potential clients. As a lawyer, I did. Over the years that "waste" turned out to be my most profitable marketing investment for new business.

I know that there are guys that get their jollies from calling escorts... it's one of those nuisances that is a part of the industry. Every industry has its nuisances. Every professional has to learn to cope with all kinds of nuisances... "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen"...

[BTW, there are many people who get their jollies by seeking legal advice on imaginary facts or getting many different opinions for real facts.]

Also, when it comes to buying or selling sex, many of the "rules" are different.

I note, for example, that on Webcam sites the women who are raking in the money are those who know how to just openly give it away... because the men who see it and like what they see, rain down money on them. The ones that need to be booked and paid in advance for everything under the Sun, often just sit there twirling their thumbs or masturbating into the void.

I think there is a lesson there...

BTW -- IMHO, of course -- any professional who sees her/his profession only as a job does not understand what professionalism means.

Perry

 

[Jasmina]

You are missing the point though, he said he had no intent to book. So he was not presenting as a potential client. What was the point of him contacting her? To waste her time. We don't need pats on the back for being attractive. We need to pay our bills.

We contact you only because you advertise to us.
This is a job where you are a sales woman and trying to ensure clients will come back so you have to package yourself and have a retain a certain image.
I never go back to SPs who are in just for a quick buck (not personable and don't actually love sex).

 

[LC18]

The “no black gents” is about BEHAVIOUR.

I've been told by my peers that it was a fear of meeting a pimp. That's racist if you asked me because other ethnicities also make victims. Anyways, that's derailing the thread...sorry!

 

[jalimon]

Bless your delusional heart.

This is a job.

YOU contact US, not the other way around.

End of story.

End of story?? Wait there is different fish in this market. I am one of those. There are many of us who despise the girl who see this as a job and who will avoid seeing those girl at all cost. Call it delusional I call it looking for a fantasy! Nothing less nothing more

Today I was contacted to participate in a little tryst in 2 weeks. The 2 girls that will be there used to work as sp. Saw them dozen of times in the last 3 years. Only booked one of them once

Be cool girl and stop thinking only about paying bills because guest what... they will be paid more easily if you do so

 

[LC18]

Today I was contacted to participate in a little tryst in 2 weeks.

I don't want to sound rude but a sex worker contacted you to ask you if you wanted to book her and you don't think she did that strictly for money?

I would never do that myself, I would much rather my clients contact me when they want to see me.

 

[jalimon]

I don't want to sound rude but a sex worker contacted you to ask you if you wanted to book her and you don't think she did that strictly for money?

I would never do that myself, I would much rather my clients contact me when they want to see me.

It's 2 girls (I do not really see them much as sex workers as they do this so sporadically... but still they are... and I don't care haha) who wants to have a fun night with guys they know and trust. And bonus they will get money for it

 

[Jasmina]

Oh honey, you're a mark!

It's 2 girls (I do not really see them much as sex workers as they do this so sporadically... but still they are... and I don't care haha) who wants to have a fun night with guys they know and trust. And bonus they will get money for it

 

[Lovely_Lovelynn]

End of story?? Wait there is different fish in this market. I am one of those. There are many of us who despise the girl who see this as a job and who will avoid seeing those girl at all cost. Call it delusional I call it looking for a fantasy! Nothing less nothing more

Today I was contacted to participate in a little tryst in 2 weeks. The 2 girls that will be there used to work as sp. Saw them dozen of times in the last 3 years. Only booked one of them once

Be cool girl and stop thinking only about paying bills because guest what... they will be paid more easily if you do so

#1 no one cares, and even fewer believe you. If it is true, they wouldn’t be with you if money wasn’t involved. You sound delusional.

#2 fantasy: the faculty or activity of imagining things, especially things that are impossible or improbable.

(bless your delusional heart)

#3 don’t tell me how to conduct myself or my business, your worthless opinion doesn’t pay my bills

#4 have you nothing better to do with your time then to boast online about your future “3some tryst with washed up retired sp’s”

#5 do you really think you sound smart & cool?

 

[sp free]

Man, nothing gets me going like opinionated women that like to preach online.

SCHWING!

 

[jalimon]

#4 have you nothing better to do with your time then to boast online about your future “3some tryst with washed up retired sp’s”

Only this point is worth answering I am only trying to say there are other option out there. Of course these girls, who are far from washed up haha they are 23 and 22, are doing this because we pay them. I get that do not worry.

They are options for guys and girl who want to partake in this without the feeling of fucking for money so the girl can pay her rent. I would rather use my left hand all the time than to pay a girl simply so she can pay her bills. I am not fucking to jerk off. I do not care much about that. I am doing this to have FUN!!!

Cheers,

 

[Jasmina]

Back to the oringinal post, there is NO reason to believe that the poster in question doesn't rock a session and make a man feel king. None. She just didn't like her time being wasted by someone who said outright they were not booking with her.

Only this point is worth answering I am only trying to say there are other option out there. Of course these girls, who are far from washed up haha they are 23 and 22, are doing this because we pay them. I get that do not worry.

They are options for guys and girl who want to partake in this without the feeling of fucking for money so the girl can pay her rent. I would rather use my left hand all the time than to pay a girl simply so she can pay her bills. I am not fucking to jerk off. I do not care much about that. I am doing this to have FUN!!!

Cheers,

 

[jimchiu]

You operate in a service industry. How you conduct yourself in selling is just as significant as the service/product your offer. Basic rules? You speak for everyone do you? No you don't. How an escort interacts with a customer is defined by those two parties. You don't get to force your view of that on anyone. You want a cut and dry clinical business transaction, that's fine, you have every right to do so, you just need to communicate that ahead of time. Again, you don't speak for everyone.

"Obvious from the get go this person would not be an ideal client". What do you actually know about the client? Nothing. You're assuming because he paid a compliment and wasn't ready to book that somehow he is not ideal based on...? This could have been the guys first time reaching out to as escort or maybe his prior engagements with escorts went smoothly after complimenting them. You don't know. And, you're never going to know either because it's easier to be ignorant and assume things. Buddy could be a naive, six-figure whale you could milk the shit out of but if you take the approach in the screenshots you'll never know.

"We don't need to pander to everyone, your hurt feelings do not affect our bottom line when we chastise you for stepping outside your boundaries. This thread is hilarious." The fact you can't see what the major issue is with her response says more about your lack of critical thinking skills than anything else. This isn't about hurt feelings. At it's basic level this a salesperson who was belligerent to a potential customer (who cares if he wasn't ready to book right then - that's not the issue) then to add insult to injury did the equivalent taking out a billboard on the side of a busy highway (Twitter) to brag about it. Doesn't matter what you're selling, that's going to result in lost opportunities.

The fact you couldn't grasp and the escort couldn't understand there was an opportunity there says more about you then you can clearly grasp. Short-sighted. Immature.

Sales is hard work. If you can't handle the stress of dealing with customers then sell your product through someone else and let them deal with the customer.

Funny thing is, almost everytime... actually no, every single fucking session, the girls would ask me about medical advise other wise they'd need to book a consultation and pay a fee for my educated response. The next time they'd ask me, I'll just tell them that "my shit aint free, knock off $300 for my fee and I'll even waive the $25 registration charge for you. And you can thank @rachel2016 On Terb for that response!"

 

[jimchiu]

A luxury car dealer would be even more annoyed if some broke dude walked in to drool over the cars and not have any intent to purchase. Your anology was poor.

With that response alone tells me you run a poor business, or even you may think that you are successful, but you're just a minor leaguer... that's the reason there are star companions that goes $2k+ and theres you guys that spend hours on Terb writting ADs and complaining not being respected.

Unlike youtube shows, any luxury car dealership focus on selling the "experience", from the moment you enter to the moment you exit, the duration while in the store is the experience, their target is not to sell you "this car", but their goal is to sell you a desire to own only "this car". They will talk to you and explain why this car is to be desired and cost as it does. They are to plant a seed, a wanting, an impulsive reaction however irrational, thay no matter how poor you are, they want you to dream about "if I ever get rich, this is the car I'd buy".

Maybe walk into a dealership, a Bentley dealer or Rolls Royce showroom. Matter fact the more LV on your bag does not get you more attention because they'd know if you are to get that car it'd be bought for you by your Sugar Daddy.

 

[jimchiu]

LOL Y'all don't get it. Your compliments mean nothing if they do not come along with a solid booking or something that ACTUALLY benefits us.

Contrary to popular opinion, we do not need to be nice or even appreciative when offered a useless tidbit like "You're hot". You may think compliments are something we are supposed to like, but really, all you're saying is "I care more about what I think about you than what you actually want or need as a person"

No baby girl, YOU don't get it. A service performer, especially sex-workers, needs to understand the goal is to shift the income/service curve. Your goal is to INCREASE total Income while DECREASE total time performing, to retain longevity. And the only way to do that is to promote yourself to be desired. The guy sent a compliment, which means he spent however hrs check you out, horny as hell, wanting your attention to engage... this is the perfect time to plant a desire and want or even need to fuck. He didnt do that just to waste your time, he did it because he was horny but can't commit! He's looking for a reason to shell out $XXX amount of money and he even reached out to you to give him that affirmation!! You just gonna let him slide? You can't close him? You can't even turn that into a "fuck it shes worth a try!!"? He's screaming at you to take his money today or some other time, but you manage to have him rather burn the money than to give it to you.... The law of attraction tells us, every desire will find a way to fruiation, just that desire can be altered and realized by someone else.

With your business model you'd be spending 60% time performing and 40% buying ads. When the ration should be 80% time engaging and interact with your audience and 10% performing, but getting higher income than 60%.

USE you head to make money, dont just Give head for money.

 

[TeeJay]

Whats with the bizarre mod edit? Claiming something about Twitter DMs
This is an iPhone and he is using iMessage which is quite obvious in the screen shots
The crazy Blair was the one who took a photo and posted to Twitter after the fact as she is obviously looking for more attention

 

[TeeJay]

A luxury car dealer would be even more annoyed if some broke dude walked in to drool over the cars and not have any intent to purchase. Your anology was poor.

That just proves you know nothing about sales

Basic rule 101 is never judge
I have sold billions and trust me that guy in the suit often has a horrible credit rating and that scruffy looking minority often will pull stacks out

You are clueless if you think you can prejudge someones financials

 

[Jasmina]

I did not say a thing about appearance. You seem to be projecting something here?

That just proves you know nothing about sales

Basic rule 101 is never judge
I have sold billions and trust me that guy in the suit often has a horrible credit rating and that scruffy looking minority often will pull stacks out

You are clueless if you think you can prejudge someones financials

 

[Jasmina]

Hmmm, seems to be a trend of dudes completely missing my point. I said nothing about appearance. We are talking about intent.

With that response alone tells me you run a poor business, or even you may think that you are successful, but you're just a minor leaguer... that's the reason there are star companions that goes $2k+ and theres you guys that spend hours on Terb writting ADs and complaining not being respected.

Unlike youtube shows, any luxury car dealership focus on selling the "experience", from the moment you enter to the moment you exit, the duration while in the store is the experience, their target is not to sell you "this car", but their goal is to sell you a desire to own only "this car". They will talk to you and explain why this car is to be desired and cost as it does. They are to plant a seed, a wanting, an impulsive reaction however irrational, thay no matter how poor you are, they want you to dream about "if I ever get rich, this is the car I'd buy".

Maybe walk into a dealership, a Bentley dealer or Rolls Royce showroom. Matter fact the more LV on your bag does not get you more attention because they'd know if you are to get that car it'd be bought for you by your Sugar Daddy.

 

[Valcazar]

Hmmm, seems to be a trend of dudes completely missing my point. I said nothing about appearance. We are talking about intent.

I think the argument they are going with is that you can't infer intent from one interaction or what someone looks like walking into a car dealership.
This is true in that any such judgment will never be 100% accurate.
What they aren't getting is that after you have had thousands of these kinds of interactions, you get very good at figuring out intent quickly. If this provider is right 90% of the time on her read, then she is probably still better off shutting this guy down now, even if there is that 10% chance he would have become a good customer.

It seems that what is going on here is lots of the guys are seeing themselves as that group where she would have gotten it wrong, and lots of the providers view themselves as someone who needs a strategy for cutting off time wasters and even if this isn't the exact line they would draw, they understand why the line is being drawn in the first place.