Things about the election that don't smell right

WyattEarp

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As we move on it doesn’t look like the polls were as wrong as they appeared to be on Election Day...with votes still be counted Biden could be ahead on the popular vote by 4 points, he’s in the midst of flipping 5 states to blue, could have 306 electoral votes...
Everyone knows where the big Blue majorities are going to be. For pollsters, it's about nailing down those battleground states.

I don't think the pollsters did well at all. Giant leads don't evaporate in a few weeks. The second debate was inconclusive.
 

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Yes and no. The pollsters really screwed up on some key Senate races. Namely Maine, Iowa, Kentucky and North Carolina. The Democrats spent hundred of millions of dollars in these races and they weren't even close.

I would repeat some commentary I heard. It's possible pollsters are biased by consultants who want to spend lots of money on competitive races. No political consultant ever said hey let's not spend money.
Susan Collins wasn't suppose to win...and it's too bad that Lindsey Graham did.
 
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WyattEarp

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It is a real unknown.
Can Trumpism survive without Trump? Is there someone out there to grab this group of disaffected voters and activate them?
I think someone can, but I don't think it is as easy as parroting Trump's style and I'm not sure if that group stays GOP or fractures off into something else as some of the old guard fights back.
A USA with a system that wasn't so skewed to force people into two parties would be an interesting thing to see play out. As it is, it will play out in primaries and lower level fights and be less visible.
It might take awhile for a viable Trump proxy to emerge. Ted Cruz is kind of a very poor man's Trump. The issue is Trump violates so many rules of play for establishment Republicans. Every current Republican Senator has had to play by those rules.
 

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The Pennsylvania Governor unilaterally authorized the counting of mail-in ballots received after the November 3 deadline. He also said postmarks were not required.

Since the U.S. Supreme Court has ordered Pennsylvania to set aside all of these ballots, I'm not sure this is a good example of Republican recalcitrance. American state constitutions always default towards legislative action over executive action.
It is in preventing the early counting of ballots received well in advance of November 3rd.
 

Valcazar

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It might take awhile for a viable Trump proxy to emerge. Ted Cruz is kind of a very poor man's Trump. The issue is Trump violates so many rules of play for establishment Republicans. Every current Republican Senator has had to play by those rules.
Cruz isn't exactly a waterfall of charisma.

 

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I heard Rudy’s next press conference is going to be at a glory hole in a truck stop washroom somewhere off I95?
 
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toguy5252

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You responded to me "You are wrong. Only ballots post-marked on or before Nov. 3 were or will be counted. But nice try."

I simply presented an official statement from State of Pennsylvania that disputes your point that postmarks are required in PA. In a political discussion, it's generally bad form to make dismissive statements unless you are absolutely sure of your point. It's compounding bad form, to not accept your point was negated by a fact and then try to move the thread exchange to another dismissive point.
That is because I rely upon the rulings of the SCOTUS.

The U.S. Supreme Court said Monday that election officials in Pennsylvania can count absentee ballots received as late as the Friday after Election Day so long as they are postmarked by Nov. 3.
 

Frankfooter

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Ok. I'll put your name right under Frank's. For the rest of you out there, no need to individually respond. Like Pennsylvania, I'll just write in your vote for you.
You might as well put the whole board on that list, bud.
You're going off the deep end here.

But here's where the real stink is.
Barr announced a memo to have the DOJ investigate any potential vote fraud.
Hours later the head of election crimes a the DOJ 'resigned'.



 
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kherg007

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Agree. Trump drove his base to the polls in unprecedented numbers. The pollsters, once again, failed to measure that phenomenon. Latinos in Texas and Florida came out for Trump. No pollster picked that up either.
Others suggest the Q anon crowd and other groups on the right tends to be distrustful thus will not agree to participate in polls.
 

Valcazar

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Trump firing all these people and putting cronies in is a bad sign.

I do like how the message went from "no votes after election day, it needs to be announced immediately that I won" to "pursue every court case and nothing counts until December 14" without skipping a beat.
 

squeezer

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Trump firing all these people and putting cronies in is a bad sign.

I do like how the message went from "no votes after election day, it needs to be announced immediately that I won" to "pursue every court case and nothing counts until December 14" without skipping a beat.
They need to stop him before he completely destroys the US and it completely becomes a shit hole country
 
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