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The UK's fourth wave

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In case this has not been posted...


When the U.K. moved to stage three of its reopening on May 17, allowing indoor dining and visits to movie theatres and museums, about half of British residents had their first jab and 30 per cent had both. Canada, which is now in a similar place to the U.K. was then in terms of both infection rates and public health restrictions lifting, has given at least one dose to 69 per cent of Canadians and 38 per cent are fully vaccinated.

But those numbers, don’t tell the entire story.

Dr. Zain Chagla, an infectious diseases doctor at St. Joseph’s Healthcare in Hamilton, said another difference between the two countries is the age of the people who are vaccinated.

In both countries, infection rates are highest among people under 30. Canada opened up vaccines to people as young as 12 by the end of May. The U.K. only began booking people as young as 18 in mid-June and still hasn’t started vaccinating teenagers.

When the U.K. moved to stage three reopening in May, less than 17 per cent of people under 40 had even one dose of vaccine, and seven per cent had two. As of June 26, Canada had given at least one dose to about two-thirds of people between 12 and 39 years old, and two doses to about 12 per cent.

“I think we have a little bit of an advantage here in Canada,” said Chagla.
 

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Boris is an idiot. It will get much worse in UK. He is trying to help business but it will end in lockdown when there are no more rooms in ICU.
 

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If anyone doesn’t think that this is all happening BEFORE “Freedom Day” isn’t scripted there’s no hope for you.
 

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Government figures showed another 51,870 confirmed lab cases, the highest number since mid-January. Infections have surged in recent weeks, mainly among unvaccinated younger people, as a result of the far more contagious delta variant and the easing of lockdown restrictions.
 

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Government figures showed another 51,870 confirmed lab cases, the highest number since mid-January. Infections have surged in recent weeks, mainly among unvaccinated younger people, as a result of the far more contagious delta variant and the easing of lockdown restrictions.
Mainly isnt quite accurate, approximately half of new infections are among vaccinated people in the UK. 47% to be exact

 

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Mainly isnt quite accurate, approximately half of new infections are among vaccinated people in the UK. 47% to be exact

Read the fine print


But 47 per cent of cases are among those who have received at least one dose of the Covid vaccine, surging upwards from around a quarter at the start of June.


This does not mean the jabs do not work. Scientists have always been honest that they are not perfect and millions will still be vulnerable to infection even after getting both doses.

Infections are rising fastest among young Britons — many of whom have only received one dose. But the ZOE app counts these people as 'vaccinated' even though they are not yet fully protected by two doses. A second dose of all vaccines has been shown to be much more effective than a first dose against the Indian 'Delta' variant.
 

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By this December , the Indian variant will likely be a father, or even a grandfather. Boosters or other options will probably be in force then and unvaxed herds in America will enforce a powerful and disruptive American fourth wave. The US-Canada border will again “semi’ close again but on the upside the markets will roar and pro sports will have an almost normal seasons. Deaths and hospitalization from double vaxxers will be down but will be upLong Covid up.
The 2022 Winter Olympics in China will be heavily boycotted.
Thank you Nostradamus
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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Read the fine print


But 47 per cent of cases are among those who have received at least one dose of the Covid vaccine, surging upwards from around a quarter at the start of June.


This does not mean the jabs do not work. Scientists have always been honest that they are not perfect and millions will still be vulnerable to infection even after getting both doses.

Infections are rising fastest among young Britons — many of whom have only received one dose. But the ZOE app counts these people as 'vaccinated' even though they are not yet fully protected by two doses. A second dose of all vaccines has been shown to be much more effective than a first dose against the Indian 'Delta' variant
Fully vaccinated are indeed less likely to get very sick or die, but the Pfizer vaccine is significantly less effective against Delta

 

Phil C. McNasty

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They are all Astra Zeneca though. It's not as good as the Moderna and Pfizer vaxxes that we get
If that is true then that explains why Delta hasnt really taken hold (yet) in GTA.
Especially when Peel has such a large East-Indian population with flights coming in every day
 

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It will be really interesting to see how the fourth wave affects Canada. Given our high percentage of people double vaxxed I suspect our numbers of infected will be much lower on a percentage basis when compared to the UK and the US.
That said it would suck it we have to go into lockdown again due to the unvaxxed crowd. Hopefully the lockdown days are in behind us.
 

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They are all Astra Zeneca though. It's not as good as the Moderna and Pfizer vaxxes that we get.
There doesn't seem to be a huge difference in efficacy against Delta between AZ and the two mRNA vaccines last time I looked.
(Lots of info always coming in though, so things can change.)
 
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