Don't rely on natural immunity without checking, PLEASE!

[PeteOsborne]

Received a phone call at 2 AM this morning that my cousin out West was admitted to the ICU with covid.
He and his son had had covid back in 2020 at the end of April.
My cousin is 52 and had barely any symptoms back then and didn't get the vaccine because he had already had covid.
My cousins son told me that he went from a tickle in his throat, to a steady cough then barely able to breathe and rushed to the hospital by ambulance, all within a 20 hour period.
He was diagnosed with covid through a rapid test but they did some other test to verify and to check the specific strain of virus, they expect the results in about 10 to 14 days.
His son is going to take an antibody test and told me the doctor he was in touch with at the hospital told him that since he had had covid so long ago the anti bodies he has left would most likely not be enough to ward off a new infection.
His son had harsh side effects from covid the first time around and had to take physio till November to get his lung capacity back, he still has brain fog and his hair never grew back in where he lost it, so he shaves his head now.

 

[Male4Strapon]

Sorry to hear. As much as I want to say 'fuck em' to the unvaxxed getting covid, it's harder to do when reading personal details. I hope your cousin and his son fully recover.

 

[PeteOsborne]

Sorry to hear. As much as I want to say 'fuck em' to the unvaxxed getting covid, it's harder to do when reading personal details. I hope your cousin and his son fully recover.

I kind of understand the logic behind " I had covid and now I am immune" but I had mentioned to my cousin earlier this year that studies have found decreasing antibodies over time in people who have had covid.
I had mentioned he should get an anti body check just to verify and he said maybe I'll just get the vaccine, but from what his son said he never got around to it.
His son is OK so far by the way except for the covid long haul thing.

 

[PeteOsborne]

Just a quick update, I got a text late Sunday night, my cousins son tested negative for covid and when he found out the antibody test cost $75.00 he talked to a doctor who advised him since it had been so long to just go and get the shot instead.
My cousin is on oxygen and from the text I got from his son they are giving him mexahethadone by IV ( I think he meant dexamethasone) to try to keep him off a ventilator.
They are also debating whether to start convalescent plasma therapy but were waiting to see how the IV does for him.

 

[IM469]

'I had it and I'm immune' has been a common battle cry among anti-vaccers. Two people in my office who have repeated the same nonsense as Canada-man now claim this. They never took time off work, they never got tested and in one case points out a time that a common cold was spreading around the office. My patience for these selfish people has run out. I don't suggest the shot is mandatory but I want them isolated as a group from mixing with the general public. This is a health risk not a political/religious choice.

 

[squeezer]

The average time the natural COVID antibodies last is said to be around 8 months. Yet, these anti-vaxxers believe they know best. I call it dumbass syndrome.

 

[shack]

The average time the natural COVID antibodies last is said to be around 8 months. Yet, these anti-vaxxers believe they know best. I call it dumbass syndrome.

JCamateur claims he has natural immunity because he had covid (actually one of the very first cases in the world) in Nov or Dec 2019. That's over 18 months now.

 

[K Douglas]

Delta Variant: Natural Immunity 700% Greater Protection Than Shot, Data from Israeli Govt. Shows - NewsRescue.com

Update (Aug 27, 2021) After being fact-checked by FaceBook's “Health feedback”, Bloomberg and other mainstream media are reporting on this same finding today. Related: NewsRescue–#LongHaulers: Spike Protein Present on Covid And in Vaccines Dangerously Modifies Genes Even After Exposure – Texas...

newsrescue.com

 

[Male4Strapon]

Delta Variant: Natural Immunity 700% Greater Protection Than Shot, Data from Israeli Govt. Shows - NewsRescue.com

Update (Aug 27, 2021) After being fact-checked by FaceBook's “Health feedback”, Bloomberg and other mainstream media are reporting on this same finding today. Related: NewsRescue–#LongHaulers: Spike Protein Present on Covid And in Vaccines Dangerously Modifies Genes Even After Exposure – Texas...

newsrescue.com

Well, if NewsRescue ( anonymously run Nigerian news and opinion website) says so.........

 

[K Douglas]

Well, if NewsRescue ( anonymously run Nigerian news and opinion website) says so.........

Great. Another shoot the messenger not the message types

 

[Male4Strapon]

Great. Another shoot the messenger not the message types

no, I just want to see this from a credible source which really should not be a big request. It should be expected in fact.
My postal carrier neighbour might be correct in his opinion on why my car makes that funny noise but I will still go to mechanic to verify.
If the info posted by NewsRescue is correct, then I imagine it should be echoed by legitimate news sources. I haven’t seen this or heard it anywhere but here. Unless I missed it elsewhere then I will continue to disregard what NewsRescue tells me.

 

[K Douglas]

no, I just want to see this from a credible source which really should not be a big request. It should be expected in fact.
My postal carrier neighbour might be correct in his opinion on why my car makes that funny noise but I will still go to mechanic to verify.
If the info posted by NewsRescue is correct, then I imagine it should be echoed by legitimate news sources. I haven’t seen this or heard it anywhere but here. Unless I missed it elsewhere then I will continue to disregard what NewsRescue tells me.

Your analogy, while amusing, is non sensical.
Why don't you look at what sources are being quoted in the article. Or better yet read the article and make your own deductions. Or is that too much to ask.

 

[Male4Strapon]

I’m not disputing that there could be something to it or that elements of it aren’t true, it’s just that if NewsRescue is the source then I am not optimistic that the article is objective.
For example, I will trust this far more than News Rescue

Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

Protecting Health, Saving Lives—Millions at a Time

www.jhsph.edu

“Misconceptions about COVID-19 vaccines abound. Some common ones: If you’ve had COVID-19, you don’t need the vaccine. Wrong. It’s better get naturally infected than to get vaccinated. Wrong.”

 

[Valcazar]

Your analogy, while amusing, is non sensical.
Why don't you look at what sources are being quoted in the article. Or better yet read the article and make your own deductions. Or is that too much to ask.

The article being aggressively biased to one point of view means reading it and deciding makes it more likely it will be dismissed. The writer does himself no favors in terms of being taken seriously.
However, they do link to other sources, so someone can run those down and see whether or not those original sources are being misrepresented.

 

[K Douglas]

I’m not disputing that there could be something to it or that elements of it aren’t true, it’s just that if NewsRescue is the source then I am not optimistic that the article is objective.
For example, I will trust this far more than News Rescue

Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

Protecting Health, Saving Lives—Millions at a Time

www.jhsph.edu

“Misconceptions about COVID-19 vaccines abound. Some common ones: If you’ve had COVID-19, you don’t need the vaccine. Wrong. It’s better get naturally infected than to get vaccinated. Wrong.”

All you're showing here is one virologists opinion. I don't see any study that she refers to. The article I posted links to an Israeli government study.

 

[Male4Strapon]

All you're showing here is one virologists opinion. I don't see any study that she refers to. The article I posted links to an Israeli government study.

we’ll just have to agree to disagree on the importance of the messenger/message.

The message to me is alway critical but is questionable, if not irrelevant, if the messenger isn’t credible….. even if the message is ultimately proven correct, I view that more as the “broken clock being right twice a day”

 

[jcpro]

JCamateur claims he has natural immunity because he had covid (actually one of the very first cases in the world) in Nov or Dec 2019. That's over 18 months now.

My annual is end of the next month. We will.see, then if I'm still good.

 

[squeezer]

Great. Another shoot the messenger not the message types

You're so gullible. No wonder you ramble nonsense and crap in your posts.

News Rescue - Bias and Credibility

QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no

mediabiasfactcheck.com

 

[Knuckle Ball]

@PeteOsborne

I hope your cousin recovers.

I have heard many people make that same rationalization of, “I‘ve had covid so I’ve got the antibodies now and so therefore I’m safe” to avoid taking the vaccine.

I have read the antibodies wear off after 6-8 months and do not provide the same level of protection as the vaccines provide.

Moreover, your cousin probably got the Delta Variant of covid this time so anti-bodies from an earlier version of the virus would not have protected him very well either. Again, the vaccines would have given him better protection against the Delta Variant.

Regardless, though, I hope your cousin starts to get better soon. The field of covid treatment has come a long way over the past 18 months so hopefully he will recover successfully.

Thanks for sharing your story.

 

[poker]

Received a phone call at 2 AM this morning that my cousin out West was admitted to the ICU with covid.
He and his son had had covid back in 2020 at the end of April.
My cousin is 52 and had barely any symptoms back then and didn't get the vaccine because he had already had covid.
My cousins son told me that he went from a tickle in his throat, to a steady cough then barely able to breathe and rushed to the hospital by ambulance, all within a 20 hour period.
He was diagnosed with covid through a rapid test but they did some other test to verify and to check the specific strain of virus, they expect the results in about 10 to 14 days.
His son is going to take an antibody test and told me the doctor he was in touch with at the hospital told him that since he had had covid so long ago the anti bodies he has left would most likely not be enough to ward off a new infection.
His son had harsh side effects from covid the first time around and had to take physio till November to get his lung capacity back, he still has brain fog and his hair never grew back in where he lost it, so he shaves his head now.

I hope your cousin pulls through man... my daughter had it in Jan. She still has no sense of smell. It's a nasty little virus indeed.