Flat Earthers: What They Believe and Why
Michael Marshall, project director of the Good Thinking Society in the U.K., talks about flat earth belief and its relationship to conspiracy theories and other antiscience activities.
The Science is Settled: Big Oil Openly admits Climate change was real.
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Interesting that governments are now suing big oil for climate damage. What about all you drivers who have driven gas powered vehicles all these years? How come we don’t sue you? You’re the ones actually polluting our air with your choice of vehicles and how come it’s all about the money with these lawsuits? Why isn’t government shutting down these companies? It’s just a big money grab no different than the tobacco and pharmaceutical lawsuits.
That was not my hypothesis. That was your straw man. You completely misrepresented what I said. Yet again. What else is new though. Par for the coarse.
John… I can save you some typing. Most of it is misrepresented anyways. When I want actual scientific information, I go to experts. Not you. MIT for example…
How do greenhouse gases trap heat in the atmosphere?
Greenhouse gas molecules in the atmosphere absorb light, preventing some of it from escaping the Earth. This heats up the atmosphere and raises the planet’s average temperature.
stating Co2 is the control knob for climate is stating your hypothesis
and it is a failed hypothesis
well stop misrepresenting what you do not understand then
Ah an appeal to authority , which relies you of the burden of thinking. i see
Oh like Dr. Richard Lindzen
MIT Professor Calls BS On Fraudulent Climate Change Consensus - Truth And Action
Richard Siegmund Lindzen is an American atmospheric physicist known for his work in the dynamics of the middle atmosphere, atmospheric tides, and ozone photochemistry. He has published more than 200 scientific papers and books
Greenwashing and blaming the users?
Because its the oil & gas industry that knows what their products are doing to the climate and instead of doing something about it hired lobbyists to spread disinformation and stall all action.
I'm sure you'd blame smokers for lung cancer instead of the tobacco industry as well.
There have been climate litigations filed against governments and
Big Oil. But to the best of my knowledge no government have sued
Big Oil for damage caused by climate change. Government will more
likely corroborate with Big Oil, coal producers and miners when and
where there is profit to be made. Even in Scotland where government
has declared climate emergency the Cumbria deep coal mine will be
developed. Likewise the Liberals in Canada and the Labour government
in Australia will find every excuse to support new oil, gas and coal mine
regardless of their pledge of zero emission. An excuse used by
Anthony Albanese is that Australian coal is cleaner. Liberals in Newfoundland
justified Bay Du Nord by saying the deep water oil project is an important
part of transition to green energy.
No government will be dumb enough to sue Big Oil for damage because
it means they will have to kill the golden goose.
Big Oil. But to the best of my knowledge no government have sued
Big Oil for damage caused by climate change. Government will more
likely corroborate with Big Oil, coal producers and miners when and
where there is profit to be made. Even in Scotland where government
has declared climate emergency the Cumbria deep coal mine will be
developed. Likewise the Liberals in Canada and the Labour government
in Australia will find every excuse to support new oil, gas and coal mine
regardless of their pledge of zero emission. An excuse used by
Anthony Albanese is that Australian coal is cleaner. Liberals in Newfoundland
justified Bay Du Nord by saying the deep water oil project is an important
part of transition to green energy.
No government will be dumb enough to sue Big Oil for damage because
it means they will have to kill the golden goose.
“A” control knob. Not “the”.stating Co2 is the control knob for climate is stating your hypothesis
and it is a failed hypothesis
well stop misrepresenting what you do not understand then
Ah an appeal to authority , which relies you of the burden of thinking. i see
Oh like Dr. Richard Lindzen
MIT Professor Calls BS On Fraudulent Climate Change Consensus - Truth And Action
Richard Siegmund Lindzen is an American atmospheric physicist known for his work in the dynamics of the middle atmosphere, atmospheric tides, and ozone photochemistry. He has published more than 200 scientific papers and books
Big difference. But you knew that. You still choose to misrepresent it though, then attack it. Classic Straw man.
Didn’t the last professor you brought to the dance… the worlds leading climate scientist also say on his website that climate change was real, you just had not read that part.
Hmmm.
Still… a very politicized debate. And we now have the evidence that big oil funded a manipulation campaign. We certainly know propaganda works after the Trump stolen election debacle…. We have big oil on record as saying they agree with the climate science. We actually know, they always knew.
Seems it was all about profits. Could not be more clear.
Game. Set. Match.
Did you ignore that even at the time, very few scientists thought that was true, even though the news was happy to do their pre-clickbait clickbait?
How the "Global Cooling" Story Came to Be
Nine paragraphs written for Newsweek in 1975 continue to trump 40 years of climate science. It is a record that has its author amazed
What were climate scientists predicting in the 1970s?
<p>1970s ice age predictions were predominantly media based. The majority of peer reviewed research at the time predicted warming due to increasing CO2.</p>
skepticalscience.com
And yes, a scientists' job is to continuously learn from the evidence. Of course those 10% supporting cooling has dwindled to a fraction of a percent.
This again?
Are you going back to claiming that climate scientists don't understand Gay Lussac's Law?
This is just like when trump admits he was lying but his fans somehow still believe him.
I'm not sure you can assume that he does know that.
He’s smarter than NASA. He knew…. That fucker knew.
Most climate change deniers in the scientific community are getting payola from Exxon Mobil.
"Exxon Mobil is the most principled oil and gas company, school teachers are like Hitler" - Richard Lindzen.
Dr. Lindzen was once highly respected, his colleagues now call him Exxon Mobil's Whore. How long is Happenin Johnny going to continue with this bullkaka?
"Exxon Mobil is the most principled oil and gas company, school teachers are like Hitler" - Richard Lindzen.
Dr. Lindzen was once highly respected, his colleagues now call him Exxon Mobil's Whore. How long is Happenin Johnny going to continue with this bullkaka?
Richard Lindzen: Exxon is Principled; School Teachers are Like Hitler
Climate skeptics love citing MIT prof Richard Lindzen, probably because, well, there aren't many other semi-legitimate skeptics left to cite. But lately, it seems like Lindzen is more and more openly losing his cool.www.huffpost.com
Does anyone remember a show on TVO called Bellamy on Botany. In the mid 70's Dr. David Bellamy was more famous than David Attenborough, he successfully brought the field of botany to the masses on the BBC. Somewhere along the way he lost his mind, he became a climate change denier. He must sincerely delude himself, his stance has caused him to lose millions in broadcasting revenue.
He's doing this...
He's doing this...
If you want to find out how strong the consensus in the scientific community
is attending this conference is one sure way to get the answer:
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International Conference on Climate Change & Environmental Science
26 - 27 Aug 2022
Pacific Gateway Hotel at Vancouver Airport, Richmond, Canada
"Climate Change Challenges & Sustainability"
International Conference on Climate Change & Environmental Science, we welcome all scientists, scholars, students, industrialists to attend and explore their knowledge within the world of worldwide global climate change and earth science.
10times.com
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You can find travel info like flight and hotel deals for the
conference attendees here. It should show you where to
get tickets from Toronto to Vancouver on discount. It only cost a
little more than $300 per night to stay in a decent motel and
there are budget options in the page as well.
https://10times.com/e1z0-d1z5-k0rk/deals
You will have a great time touring around in the middle
of the conference. Conference program likely includes bus
trips to local tourist attractions. If you want to fly to Banff
on your way back you may find company among the people
in the conference.
The consensus on climate change is likely solid among
climate scientists. Consensus on climate emergency is
probably weaker. That is not a bad thing for I can carry on
with my yearly flying trips to sex tourism destinations around
the world in good conscience.
is attending this conference is one sure way to get the answer:
----------------------------------------------------------------
International Conference on Climate Change & Environmental Science
26 - 27 Aug 2022
Pacific Gateway Hotel at Vancouver Airport, Richmond, Canada
"Climate Change Challenges & Sustainability"
International Conference on Climate Change & Environmental Science, we welcome all scientists, scholars, students, industrialists to attend and explore their knowledge within the world of worldwide global climate change and earth science.
International Conference on Climate Change & Environmental Science | 10times
55 people interested. Rated 3 by 3 people. Check out who is attending ✭ exhibiting ✭ speaking ✭ schedule & agenda ✭ reviews ✭ timing ✭ entry ticket fees. 2022 edition of International Conference on Climate Change & Environmental Science will be held at Radisson Blu Vancouver Airport Hotel &...
10times.com
You can find travel info like flight and hotel deals for the
conference attendees here. It should show you where to
get tickets from Toronto to Vancouver on discount. It only cost a
little more than $300 per night to stay in a decent motel and
there are budget options in the page as well.
https://10times.com/e1z0-d1z5-k0rk/deals
You will have a great time touring around in the middle
of the conference. Conference program likely includes bus
trips to local tourist attractions. If you want to fly to Banff
on your way back you may find company among the people
in the conference.
The consensus on climate change is likely solid among
climate scientists. Consensus on climate emergency is
probably weaker. That is not a bad thing for I can carry on
with my yearly flying trips to sex tourism destinations around
the world in good conscience.
In August 1974, the CIA produced a study on “climatological research as it pertains to intelligence problems”. The diagnosis was dramatic. It warned of the emergence of a new era of weird weather, leading to political unrest and mass migration (which, in turn, would cause more unrest). The new era the agency imagined wasn’t necessarily one of hotter temperatures; the CIA had heard from scientists warning of global cooling as well as warming. But the direction in which the thermometer was travelling wasn’t their immediate concern; it was the political impact. They knew that the so-called “little ice age”, a series of cold snaps between, roughly, 1350 and 1850, had brought not only drought and famine, but also war – and so could these new climatic changes.
“The climate change began in 1960,” the report’s first page informs us, “but no one, including the climatologists, recognised it.” Crop failures in the Soviet Union and India in the early 1960s had been attributed to standard unlucky weather. The US shipped grain to India and the Soviets killed off livestock to eat, “and premier Nikita Khrushchev was quietly deposed”.
Sixty years of climate change warnings: the signs that were missed (and ignored) – podcast
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But, the report argued, the world ignored this warning, as the global population continued to grow and states made massive investments in energy, technology and medicine.
“The climate change began in 1960,” the report’s first page informs us, “but no one, including the climatologists, recognised it.” Crop failures in the Soviet Union and India in the early 1960s had been attributed to standard unlucky weather. The US shipped grain to India and the Soviets killed off livestock to eat, “and premier Nikita Khrushchev was quietly deposed”.
Sixty years of climate change warnings: the signs that were missed (and ignored) – podcast
Read more
But, the report argued, the world ignored this warning, as the global population continued to grow and states made massive investments in energy, technology and medicine.
Guess it depends on who funds it…If you want to find out how strong the consensus in the scientific community
is attending this conference is one sure way to get the answer:
----------------------------------------------------------------
International Conference on Climate Change & Environmental Science
26 - 27 Aug 2022
Pacific Gateway Hotel at Vancouver Airport, Richmond, Canada
"Climate Change Challenges & Sustainability"
International Conference on Climate Change & Environmental Science, we welcome all scientists, scholars, students, industrialists to attend and explore their knowledge within the world of worldwide global climate change and earth science.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------International Conference on Climate Change & Environmental Science | 10times
55 people interested. Rated 3 by 3 people. Check out who is attending ✭ exhibiting ✭ speaking ✭ schedule & agenda ✭ reviews ✭ timing ✭ entry ticket fees. 2022 edition of International Conference on Climate Change & Environmental Science will be held at Radisson Blu Vancouver Airport Hotel &...
You can find travel info like flight and hotel deals for the
conference attendees here. It should show you where to
get tickets from Toronto to Vancouver on discount. It only cost a
little more than $300 per night to stay in a decent motel and
there are budget options in the page as well.
https://10times.com/e1z0-d1z5-k0rk/deals
You will have a great time touring around in the middle
of the conference. Conference program likely includes bus
trips to local tourist attractions. If you want to fly to Banff
on your way back you may find company among the people
in the conference.
The consensus on climate change is likely solid among
climate scientists. Consensus on climate emergency is
probably weaker. That is not a bad thing for I can carry on
with my yearly flying trips to sex tourism destinations around
the world in good conscience.
Sixty years of climate change warnings: the signs that were missed (and ignored)
The long read: The effects of ‘weird weather’ were already being felt in the 1960s, but scientists linking fossil fuels with climate change were dismissed as prophets of doom
www.theguardian.com
But just as the consensus about the greenhouse effect was starting to harden, and the sceptics starting to fall away, in the 1980s, there was a deliberate, organised effort to amplify that natural doubt, extend it, and use it to dismiss and distract from warnings to take action on climate change. And that wasn’t science, even if on occasion it used scientists – that was PR. It did not necessarily mean creating phoney science. (That could work, too, but would only get you so far.) You would fund real scientists, but in a way that would confuse and muddy the message. They had done this before, with air pollution in the 1940s, and their PR companies had picked up a trick or two from fights about the links between tobacco and cancer.
The chief executives of the major oil companies met and agreed to set aside funds – only $100,000 for now, but it would grow – to work on climate policy, establishing the very legitimate-sounding Global Climate Coalition. Before long, groups such as this started to proliferate – the Information Council on the Environment, the Cooler Heads Coalition, the Global Climate Information Project – and any science-smelling voice expressing sceptical views was amplified. Bill Nierenberg was a particular favourite. The delayers knew their best strategy was to get involved in the scientific and policy debate – it was there that they would be best placed to push the uncertainties and question regulations. Sometimes fossil fuel companies and their defenders get painted as “anti-science”. In truth they run on science, and always have done – they are just strategic about which bits of it they use.
Like Trudeau's holiday trips on private jet climate scientists'
flying trip to save the world from climate change are funded
by you and I (tax payers). Unless conference participant
is not a scientist employed in a universities or a
government environmental agency expenses on plane
tickets, hotel accommodation and conference fees are
funded by their grants received from the government.
There is a survey that reported climate scientists
in general attended more conferences on flying trips than
scientists in other areas. And the climate scientists didn't
disagree the finding of that survey.
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