No, first we have to sue the fossil fuel industry and all the oil & gas execs that made this happen.
Then we can fund restitution in Pakistan and transition.
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Then we can fund restitution in Pakistan and transition.
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Talk about nonsensical arguments.
You keep complaining about Western actions to fight climate change, suddenly pretend to be concerned about international poverty, then run away from the fact that climate change is causing even more people to live in poverty.
Many of my climate posts were meant to expose the folly of
the Western world's pledges to fight climate change. And in doing so I was
hoping climate sheeple voters would wake up to the real intent of
those pledges. In none of my posts I complained about emission and
fossil fuel demand going down as a result of climate policies.
They won't go down anyway so I will have lot to ridicule at but
very little to complain about.
I can assure you that I will applaud if fossil fuel production and
consumption begin trending down tomorrow for real.
If you are familiar with my posts in the past I did
every once in a while include articles reported outside
the rightists' media with a few of them related to international
poverty. While poverty is not my primary concern I
am more of a centrist than a rightie in my perspective on
where society and world's poor need help.
That being said, I do not see why tying climate policies
in the west to poverty in the developing world as being
unreasonable. Liberal media in the west has been highlighting
disasters in the rest of the world as the consequence of our
lack of climate actions. Fighting for climate justice for the poor
in in the forefront of the climate movement. Trudeau has pledged
to give away something like $5 billion of our money to the
third world yearly to help them to fight climate change.
Being a world citizen I do feel we in the affluent parts of the
world have an obligation to help them out. I will be happy
to see us sending aids like medicine, food and fuel for
the relief of flooding in Pakistan. But if fighting climate
change is the real cause of the disasters they are going to be
hit with this year and next and so forth then I will suggest
it is the Pakistani who have to reduce their emission. Population
of Pakistan is nearly 6 times bigger than Canada. There is no
way our any climate actions on our part can save them. Not
even if Canada will meet its bogus 2030 40--50% emission
reduction target. If people in the west are hell bent on burning
fossil fuel into the future what solutions would you
suggest to fend off future flooding and drought in Pakistan?
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The US worked with OPEC to keep burning fossil fuels. Exxon, Shell et al knew what their products were doing and spent hundreds of millions on disinformation while they caused climate change.
So yes, the oil & gas industry should be held liable, especially the oil & gas industry execs that made those decisions and kept pushing disinformation as CO2 and global temps went up.
Its not the west that should pay.
Its the oil & gas industry.
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The "real" intent. Sounds rational.
Yes, climate change actions will benefit the entire world including keeping many people on the fringe of poverty from having to drag their relatives in a makeshift coffin.
Family's makeshift coffin reveals horror of catastrophic flooding in Pakistan | CNN
As the catastrophic flooding in Pakistan continues and the floodwaters refuse to drain away, there is nowhere to give the dead a dignified burial. CNN's Anna Coren takes a look at how people are coping as the death toll climbs.
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And it seems your view of climate change is to say just fuck it.
I have a copy of this book on my shelf:
"CLIMATE CHANGE
What everyone needs to know"
2nd edition, Joseph Romm, Oxford
The author has a PhD in physics from MIT so I guess
he is a dependable source of scientific details pertinent
to climate change.
In the final chapter of the book having presented all the
scientific evidences in support of climate change the author
proceeded to show readers what can be done by individuals
to tackle the climate crisis. Among other things the author
talked about how to invest, where to retire, means of transportation
for commuting and traveling as well as what to eat. I wish the
future of humanity is as rosy as the author made out. I am of the
view that even without climate change life is going to be a lot
more difficult. If you believe Dr Romm then the things
we have to do to enjoy a quality life are things we can
afford in the first world. Surely if we are going to have to drive
a hybrid instead of an ICE car and drive more often than flying
to travel things can't be that bad.
Interestingly the author also stressed
the potential peril of having a POTUS who rejects climate science.
Wonder that part of the book was added for preparation of the 2nd
edition of the book (2018). I found it amusing that the author also
mentioned China's commitment to clean energy. Wonder what
he'd say about China's perpetual growth of carbon emission
in the 3rd edition. The other concern addressed in the chapter
is on the best ways to talk to climate deniers. Understandably
Dr Romm would love to see more people taking an interest in
his book as well as, having read the book, the $1 billion's worth
of low-carbon technology business he managed.
Had Joseph Romm been the guy who addressed the UN and the
world on the climate crisis in the place of Greta Thunberg, Thunberg's
climate apocalypse could have been construed as blessing of humanity
in disguise.
If belief in climate change can be likened to the acceptance of
the Christian faith climate denial could perhaps be explained
this way. Many people reject Christian faith because they abhorred
the doctrine of eternal torment. Likewise climate deniers might
reject climate change because they abhor the prospect
of extinction in the worst case scenario or having to compromise
their standard of living even if they survive. In reality they actually
have to make little to no sacrifice a fact which they failed to grasp.
To switch over from the position of a climate denier to that of a climate
sheeple the most important change to make is to elect politicians
who accept climate change and set zero emission target. With the
right people in positions of leadership climate sheeple and deniers
alike can continue driving their gas-guzzlers and flying around the world
on good conscience while the 3rd world are struggling to survive hunger,
droughts and floods.
Pretty much all of the political leaders and those in positions
of influence would not say 'fuck it' to climate change. Those who
do are helpless. Even the conservatives will have to go along with the
liberals on the climate issue and they certainly won't say 'fuck it'. People
like me is a tiny minority. Fortunately it is a minority only in the parts
of the world represented by no more than 25% of Earth's citizens. People
in the rest of the world are not as dumb.
Stupidity of climate sheeple has no limit.
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Climate change is well underway and will happen irregardless of curtailing fossil fuel use although this energy source seems to act as a global warming catalyst. The Russian invasion of the Ukraine will increase the use of fossil fuel use such as coal Zin the immediate future and beyond. China is a major fossil fuel user and is increasing the burning of coal and buying natural gas meant original meant for Europe.
A major volcanic eruption spewing ash into the upper atmosphere is over due and may cause “global cooling “ in a big way and reset our priorities.
A major volcanic eruption spewing ash into the upper atmosphere is over due and may cause “global cooling “ in a big way and reset our priorities.
Increases in coal/gas will be temporary as the war has taught countries that renewables = independence.
Volcanoes and asteroids could change the climate, true, but hopefully not likely.
