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The One State Solution Resource
- Thread starter gryfin
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You just stated your view of Arabs quite clearly....
Untrue, I don't think civilians should ever be targeted. I think it's shameful that Palestinians are used for human shields by Hamas. I think it's awful what is happening to civilians in Syria, so much so that I have donated repeatedly to MSF's efforts provide medical assistance (efforts your Russian pals have targeted).
You are actually the one who doesn't give a flying fuck what happens to Arab civilians. You think it's great they are being killed by Russia. You like that Syria and Lebanon have abusive policies towards Palestinians to ensure that remain propaganda pawns.
Are you saying you don't back this bill, your post was unclear?
I don't back the bill. Simple enough? I know you have issues when your lack of literacy interferes with your hatred.
Will you ever admit that your one state farce is driven by something other that the rights of Palestinians since they clearly hate the idea far more than they dislike the Two State concept supported by the UN, the Quartet, the EU, The Arab League, and even Israel?
Well since when you care what they want? ...
Obviously you don't care about Palestinians.
And I know you don't support a peace deal that includes Israel existing but any peace deal has to be acceptable to both sides.
There will NEVER be a ons state solution expect in the masturbatory dreams of the clowns. Israelis have no interest .
I'll give you one point.
At least you are honest.
Basketcase and fuji both claim they are for the two state solution yet constantly support every action against it at the same time.
You, at least, are honest in your support for the continuing colonization.
War crime that it is.
I don't back the bill. Simple enough? I know you have issues when your lack of literacy interferes with your hatred.
Will you ever admit that your one state farce is driven by something other that the rights of Palestinians since they clearly hate the idea far more than they dislike the Two State concept supported by the UN, the Quartet, the EU, The Arab League, and even Israel?
Congratulations of coming out against Israeli policy for the first time that I can remember.
My support of the one state solution is based on my discussions with friends on both sides of the issue here in town. Its based on the way that the community can occasionally get together here, a combination of the left wing Jewish groups that are a good part of Toronto history with the few Palestinian refugees that have landed here as well. Both groups deserve peace and equal rights. I just feel sad for you that you can only see support of equal rights as coming from hatred.
I'll give you one point.
At least you are honest.
Basketcase and fuji both claim they are for the two state solution yet constantly support every action against it at the same time.
You, at least, are honest in your support for the continuing colonization.
War crime that it is.
Only in your fucked up fantasy world is opposing Hamas the same as opposing a two state solution.
Only in your fucked up fantasy world is opposing Hamas the same as opposing a two state solution.
You don't just oppose Hamas, you also defend land seizures that the Israeli Supreme Court has ruled ILLEGAL. Your web of lies is so thick you've completely lost track of it!!!
You don't just oppose Hamas, you also defend land seizures that the Israeli Supreme Court has ruled ILLEGAL. Your web of lies is so thick you've completely lost track of it!!!
Israel will abide by its laws. Hamas will not.
Go shake your pom poms and cheer on the deaths of more Arab children in Syria, you are the biggest hypocrite on this board.
You don't just oppose Hamas, you also defend land seizures that the Israeli Supreme Court has ruled ILLEGAL. Your web of lies is so thick you've completely lost track of it!!!
Even with Hamas totally walled in, kept in the open air prison of Gaza, with only 10% of the population with clean drinking water, its not enough for fuji.
And yet fuji needs Hamas, without them he wouldn't have his only excuse or distraction for the Israeli war crimes and apartheid he supports.
Aside from old folks like fuji and basketcase, the Jewish populations of the US and Canada, as well as the general populations are turning away from Israel with these latest actions.
46% of Americans now support sanctions on Israel for the settlements.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-s...among-americans-for-sanctions-against-israel/
That is, 46% of the US now supports the goals of BDS.
America Has a Plan. And, No, It Isn’t One That Israel Would Like.
Poll shows that if the two-state solution collapses, U.S. public favors democracy over Jewishness.
"A public opinion survey I commissioned, which was conducted by the polling firm GfK, found that U.S. popular support for a two-state solution is surprisingly tepid. What’s more, if the option is taken off the table, Americans support the creation of a single democratic state — in what is now Israel and the Palestinian territories — in which Jews and Arabs are granted equal rights. The GfK survey consisted of 1,000 interviews conducted through an Internet panel and was weighted to ensure that the results were consistent with several demographic variables, such as age, education, and income.
Americans themselves, however, are more lukewarm on the possibility of Israeli and Palestinian states living side by side: fewer than four in 10 survey respondents preferred a two-state solution.
If efforts to negotiate creation of a separate Palestinian state fail, my poll shows that about two-thirds of those who had preferred the two-state solution would shift their support to a one-state solution, with equal citizenship for Jews and Arabs.
Even among respondents who said they wanted American diplomacy to “lean toward Israel,” 52 percent said they would support one state with equal citizenship — which could, of course, mean the end of Israel as a Jewish state.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/03/02/america-has-a-plan-and-no-it-isnt-one-that-israel-would-like/
Poll shows that if the two-state solution collapses, U.S. public favors democracy over Jewishness.
"A public opinion survey I commissioned, which was conducted by the polling firm GfK, found that U.S. popular support for a two-state solution is surprisingly tepid. What’s more, if the option is taken off the table, Americans support the creation of a single democratic state — in what is now Israel and the Palestinian territories — in which Jews and Arabs are granted equal rights. The GfK survey consisted of 1,000 interviews conducted through an Internet panel and was weighted to ensure that the results were consistent with several demographic variables, such as age, education, and income.
Americans themselves, however, are more lukewarm on the possibility of Israeli and Palestinian states living side by side: fewer than four in 10 survey respondents preferred a two-state solution.
If efforts to negotiate creation of a separate Palestinian state fail, my poll shows that about two-thirds of those who had preferred the two-state solution would shift their support to a one-state solution, with equal citizenship for Jews and Arabs.
Even among respondents who said they wanted American diplomacy to “lean toward Israel,” 52 percent said they would support one state with equal citizenship — which could, of course, mean the end of Israel as a Jewish state.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/03/02/america-has-a-plan-and-no-it-isnt-one-that-israel-would-like/
Israel will abide by its laws. Hamas will not.
Go shake your pom poms and cheer on the deaths of more Arab children in Syria, you are the biggest hypocrite on this board.
No they don't, the govt ignores the Supreme court and they just passed a law to size privately owned Arab land. Yet another ethnic cleansing law along ethnic lines that is 100% pure RACISM. They pass laws that are blatantly unconstitutional.
More evidence of the self destructive behaviour of the occupier that makes the two state fantasy untenable and makes the reality of the one state solution increasingly obvious. This is but one more step towards it recognition. Why would anyone waste time on the dead issue of a two state mirage anymore?
A spokesman for Germany’s Foreign Ministry referred to the proposed Regulation Law as a “violation of international law.”
A spokesperson for the German Foreign Ministry called for Israel to scrap the proposed Regulation Law that has already passed its first reading in the Knesset.
“Such a bill violates international law,” the spokesperson charged. “Israeli governments, and also Prime Minister Netanyahu, have repeatedly committed themselves to evacuating outposts that even from their perspective are considered illegal.”
The spokesman’s condemnation of the Regulation Law, which would legalize some 4,000 homes in Judea and Samaria, followed criticism from the US and the UN, both of whom argued that the proposed law would undermine the chances for Israeli-Palestinian peace.
US State Department Spokesperson Mark Toner said on Monday that “enacting this law would be profoundly damaging to the prospects for a two-state solution.”
Nickolay Mladenov, the UN’s Special Coordinator for the Middle East Peace Process, said that the Regulation Law “will greatly diminish the prospect of Arab-Israeli peace.”
The German spokesperson joined Mladenov and Toner in expressing concern for “statements made by Israeli government officials during this debate.”
Toner and Mladenov had both specified that they were troubled by statements made by Israeli political figures that described the Regulation Law as a “step towards annexation of the West Bank.”
Both officials appeared to have implicitly referred to remarks made by Education Minister Naftali Bennett, who said that the Regulation Law was a “spearhead to (Israeli) sovereignty” in Judea and Samaria.
https://worldisraelnews.com/germany-joins-us-and-un-in-condemning-regulation-law/
A spokesman for Germany’s Foreign Ministry referred to the proposed Regulation Law as a “violation of international law.”
A spokesperson for the German Foreign Ministry called for Israel to scrap the proposed Regulation Law that has already passed its first reading in the Knesset.
“Such a bill violates international law,” the spokesperson charged. “Israeli governments, and also Prime Minister Netanyahu, have repeatedly committed themselves to evacuating outposts that even from their perspective are considered illegal.”
The spokesman’s condemnation of the Regulation Law, which would legalize some 4,000 homes in Judea and Samaria, followed criticism from the US and the UN, both of whom argued that the proposed law would undermine the chances for Israeli-Palestinian peace.
US State Department Spokesperson Mark Toner said on Monday that “enacting this law would be profoundly damaging to the prospects for a two-state solution.”
Nickolay Mladenov, the UN’s Special Coordinator for the Middle East Peace Process, said that the Regulation Law “will greatly diminish the prospect of Arab-Israeli peace.”
The German spokesperson joined Mladenov and Toner in expressing concern for “statements made by Israeli government officials during this debate.”
Toner and Mladenov had both specified that they were troubled by statements made by Israeli political figures that described the Regulation Law as a “step towards annexation of the West Bank.”
Both officials appeared to have implicitly referred to remarks made by Education Minister Naftali Bennett, who said that the Regulation Law was a “spearhead to (Israeli) sovereignty” in Judea and Samaria.
https://worldisraelnews.com/germany-joins-us-and-un-in-condemning-regulation-law/
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Even with Hamas totally walled in...
...They still manage to carry out terror attacks targeting Israeli civilians. Of course you don't dare complain about that. When it came out that the bus bombing and restaurant attack were Hamas all you did was deny the attacks were real and make excuses for them.
Hamas is the sole reason for the state that Gaza is in. Their terrorism resulted in border restrictions. Their refusal to discuss peace means there will be no peace deal. Their corruption and profiteering have kept the Gazan people in poverty.
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Basketcase and fuji both claim they are for the two state solution yet constantly support every action against it at the same time.....
It's amazing how full of shit you are.
BTW. Hamas admits their terrorism is action against a Two State peace but you never seem to take issue with that.
And I'm still waiting for you to ever applaud the many things Israel does right (such as evicting the Amona settlers) or give an honest criticism of the terrorism promoted by Palestinian leaders.Congratulations of coming out against Israeli policy for the first time that I can remember.
(and if it's the first time you remember it is clearly because you either refuse to or unable to read)
My support of the one state solution is based on my discussions with friends on both sides of the issue here in town.....
And you think that a bunch of Torontonians have the moral authority to force Palestinians and Israelis into a solution they hate? That is an interesting description of supporting rights.
p.s. Your description of "Both sides of the issue" is full of shit. You have repeatedly said the 'other side' means Jews. You might not realize it but the fact you consider Jews to be the other side irregardless of their views sure shows some racialized tendencies. Anti-zionist Jews are not the 'other side'.
You don't just oppose Hamas,...
You don't oppose Hamas and that is an issue. You even try to blame Israel for not invading Gaza and removing them.
...They still manage to carry out terror attacks targeting Israeli civilians. Of course you don't dare complain about that. When it came out that the bus bombing and restaurant attack were Hamas all you did was deny the attacks were real and make excuses for them.
Hamas is the sole reason for the state that Gaza is in. Their terrorism resulted in border restrictions. Their refusal to discuss peace means there will be no peace deal. Their corruption and profiteering have kept the Gazan people in poverty.
Israel has carried out way more attacks on Gaza and Gazan's then Hamas has on Israel over the last few years.
Israel is both the occupier and the aggressor here.
Israel, and its illegal blockade, is the sole reason that only 10% of Gazans now have clean drinking water and that there is almost no power for hospitals.
And you think that a bunch of Torontonians have the moral authority to force Palestinians and Israelis into a solution they hate? That is an interesting description of supporting rights.
I take it that also means that you have no moral authority on this issue either.
Certainly not to force Palestinians to live under an apartheid system that they really hate.
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