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Frankfooter

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Dutch Oven said:
1. Where did you get the idea that I have access to the information that Trump legal team has?
2. It's not just voter fraud, but also the constitutionality of voting rules, innocent non-compliance with lawful voting rules, as well as human/machine error that are at issue.
3. Many of the Trump suits are attempts to gain access to information and documents that will allow them to gather evidence of meaningful voting irregularites. This cake is not ready for the oven, but that doesn't mean the ingredients don't exist.

I've already addressed a number of things that don't pass the smell test with me (including the preliminary responses to some of those issues).

Since I can't evaluate what the Trump team has access to, I'll just have to wait for the details to come out, like everyone else. It's early days yet.

p.s. The point of the thread are the suits, not anyone's independent speculation about what the evidence is or isn't.
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There is no fraud, even Trump's lawyers admitted it in court.
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Trump Lawyer Admits to Judge: We're Not Alleging Fraud | Law & Crime

There's a big difference between a) waving around a stack of affidavits in a safe space and b) bringing your claims before a judge. We saw that difference on Tuesday in the Trump campaign's case in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania.
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Frankfooter said:
There is no fraud, even Trump's lawyers admitted it in court.
lawandcrime.com

Trump Lawyer Admits to Judge: We're Not Alleging Fraud | Law & Crime

There's a big difference between a) waving around a stack of affidavits in a safe space and b) bringing your claims before a judge. We saw that difference on Tuesday in the Trump campaign's case in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania.
lawandcrime.com lawandcrime.com
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Considering your level of activity on this Board, one would think you'd actually read some of the posts. I've already said that not every election suit is about fraud (it's right in the post you are responding to). I refuse to repeat myself more than that (to you, at least).
 
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Dutch Oven said:
Considering your level of activity on this Board, one would think you'd actually read some of the posts. I've already said that not every election suit is about fraud (it's right in the post you are responding to). I refuse to repeat myself more than that (to you, at least).
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Right, its all about whining that Trump did better than expected but still lost.
Somehow you think that's symptomatic of something nefarious.

You have no evidence, no theories, no reasons other than being unhappy being a loser.
 
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basketcase said:
I would have started an evidence for voter fraud thread but there would be nothing in it.
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No thinking person truly believes that there was any widespread fraud. This is just fealty to their fearless leader. Nothing more. And in the meantime Putin, Un, Xi are smiling.
 
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Fun For All said:
Can you imagine if the electors ignored the vote...I don't see that happening...
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The constitution was written by the rich landowners in America, there was no intention of listening to the common people. That is why Judge Scalia and his followers, Cavanaugh and Amy Barrett are insisting on interpreting the intent of the constitution.
 
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danmand said:
The constitution was written by the rich landowners in America, there was no intention of listening to the common people. That is why Judge Scalia and his followers, Cavanaugh and Amy Barrett are insisting on interpreting the intent of the constitution.
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I'm sure everything will work out just fine..."There have been a total of 165 instances of faithlessness as of 2016, 63 of which occurred in 1872 when Horace Greeley died after Election Day but before the Electoral College convened. Nearly all have voted for third party candidates or non-candidates, as opposed to switching their support to a major opposing candidate"

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Fun For All said:
I'm sure everything will work out just fine..."There have been a total of 165 instances of faithlessness as of 2016, 63 of which occurred in 1872 when Horace Greeley died after Election Day but before the Electoral College convened. Nearly all have voted for third party candidates or non-candidates, as opposed to switching their support to a major opposing candidate"

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Faithless elector - Wikipedia

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6-3 SC with an 'originalist' installed.
Trump, Mitch and the GOP are all about naked power grabs, not playing by the rules and its foolish to think they won't try everything they can.
 
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Frankfooter said:
6-3 SC with an 'originalist' installed.
Trump, Mitch and the GOP are all about naked power grabs, not playing by the rules and its foolish to think they won't try everything they can.
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They can try all they want...the 6-3 SCOTUS has more integrity than you think.
 
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