The election litigation thread
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1. Where did you get the idea that I have access to the information that Trump legal team has?
2. It's not just voter fraud, but also the constitutionality of voting rules, innocent non-compliance with lawful voting rules, as well as human/machine error that are at issue.
3. Many of the Trump suits are attempts to gain access to information and documents that will allow them to gather evidence of meaningful voting irregularites. This cake is not ready for the oven, but that doesn't mean the ingredients don't exist.
I've already addressed a number of things that don't pass the smell test with me (including the preliminary responses to some of those issues).
Since I can't evaluate what the Trump team has access to, I'll just have to wait for the details to come out, like everyone else. It's early days yet.
p.s. The point of the thread are the suits, not anyone's independent speculation about what the evidence is or isn't.
1-I was asking for what your best evidence was.
2-those issues happen at every election...Trump campaign has been saying 'widespread voter fraud' since March, before a ballot was even cast.
3-they are investigating every minor petty little issue hoping they uncover something big and haven't...they need the yeast to bake that cake.
I've addressed everything that doesn't pass your smell test, if I can do it I'm sure the really smart people will be able to.
1- I'm not sure what you mean by "statistically improbable turnout numbers", there was more voters than eligible voters?
2-the comebacks were explained by the large amount of mail-in voting that was counted after the polls closed and the mail-ins were overwhelmingly Democratic.
4-the claim that 130,000 votes came in on one batch and they were all Biden is hard to believe and unproven that it happened.
5-mail-in ballots were counted overnight.
6-no idea what you mean by that.
7-that is not evidence of wrong doings, Trump votes were treated the same.
8-media is correct to call election challenges "unsubstantiated".
While not a direct result of any suit, Georgia has now ordered an audit and recount of the election:
globalnews.ca
The recount will be by hand.
Georgia announces audit that will trigger hand recount of U.S. presidential vote - National | Globalnews.ca
Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said at a news conference Wednesday that his office wants the process to begin by the end of the week and he expects it to take until Nov. 20.
globalnews.ca
The recount will be by hand.
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Well that’s good...the one positive about the Trump complaints is that all these petty little issues that have brought up will be corrected for future elections...and I’m sure it will show just how well done and successful mail ballots worked.While not a direct result of any suit, Georgia has now ordered and audit and recount of the election:
Georgia announces audit that will trigger hand recount of U.S. presidential vote - National | Globalnews.ca
Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said at a news conference Wednesday that his office wants the process to begin by the end of the week and he expects it to take until Nov. 20.
The recount will be by hand.
Legal analyst on Trump cases: Courts are dismissing them at alarming speed - CNN Video
CNN legal analyst Elie Honig examines the legal challenges proposed by the Trump campaign regarding election fraud and says they lack legitimacy.
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Avlon: Here's why investigations have never gone Trump's way - CNN Video
CNN's John Avlon breaks down eight baseless accusations by President Donald Trump and how past investigations could not corroborate his claims.
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This is interesting to me. You demand evidence of irregularities. I say that we should wait and see what Trump ultimately produces, and then judge. Yet you are "sure" everything was well done and mail balloting was "successful" (I'm sure you meant something like "reliable"). I say that I'm not sure what to expect from either the audit or the recount. The recount will be by hand. My understanding is the original tally was done, at least in part, by machine.
So, ironically, it seems there are some conclusions you are willing to make without evidence, and others you won't. By contrast, I'm an evidence first kind of guy when it comes to all these issues.
Hear Republican Philadelphia City Commissioner Al Schmidt's message to those spreading voter fraud lies - CNN Video
Al Schmidt, the Republican city commissioner of Philadelphia, tells CNN's John Berman that the 2020 presidential election was the "most transparent and secure election" in the city's history, despite the spread of false voter fraud claims.
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That's a pretty low bar to be proud of clearing.Hear Republican Philadelphia City Commissioner Al Schmidt's message to those spreading voter fraud lies - CNN Video
Al Schmidt, the Republican city commissioner of Philadelphia, tells CNN's John Berman that the 2020 presidential election was the "most transparent and secure election" in the city's history, despite the spread of false voter fraud claims.
I'd forgotten about this. Apparently Biden has changed his mind about when in the process he would declare victory:
What's your point? The embarrassing issues with Trump are the lies he says every time he speaks...his false claims, misleading information.
You forgot him being a racist, an alleged rapist , an alleged crook and an all round terrible human being
I guess Biden is carving out his own territory. This is one lie that Trump didn't tell. I thought Joe was bringing character back to the WH? I guess not.
Not sure whether to count this as Biden Presidency lie #1 on the inevitable Biden Presidential Lie Counter, considering the lie is that he's the President Elect. Tricky! Did Trump do any Presidential lying before he was even President Elect? I don't recall.
