The double standard with Hunter Biden's laptop is worse than you think

[Dave58]

The double standard with Hunter Biden's laptop is worse than you think | CNN

The double standard witnessed in the handling of the January 6 attempted coup spurred by former President Donald Trump and Hunter Biden's laptop reveals a fatal flaw that may prove detrimental to the future of democracy, writes Dean Obeidallah.

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Yet the sense many have is that this DOJ has no problem investigating people named Biden and Clinton but we have seen no signs of investigating Trump despite Garland's promise in January that "The Justice Department remains committed to holding all January 6th perpetrators, at any level, accountable under law." And the longer that apparent double standard continues, the more Americans will question if in fact "partisan considerations" are driving the DOJ's decisions when it comes to Trump.

You don't need a law degree to understand that if Trump is not held accountable for both his attempted coup and the January 6 attack, why would Trump -- or any future president for that matter -- think that they can't do the same? The stakes are too high for timidity given our democratic Republic hangs in the balance. The demand must be made by all who seek to preserve it is this: "Attorney General Garland, do your job."

 

[Dutch Oven]

The double standard with Hunter Biden's laptop is worse than you think | CNN

The double standard witnessed in the handling of the January 6 attempted coup spurred by former President Donald Trump and Hunter Biden's laptop reveals a fatal flaw that may prove detrimental to the future of democracy, writes Dean Obeidallah.

www.cnn.com

You don't need a law degree to understand that if Trump is not held accountable for both his attempted coup and the January 6 attack, why would Trump -- or any future president for that matter -- think that they can't do the same?

While a law degree is certainly no guarantee of reasonable analysis of January 6 (witness the comments in this forum alone!), it does seem likely that the capacity for higher education might prove an obstacle to anyone reaching the groundless conclusions you are holding onto. I think the most likely reason Trump isn't facing charges connected with January 6 is that there isn't any evidence to support them.

A laptop along with its contents is, by contrast, evidence.

 

[Fun For All]

While a law degree is certainly no guarantee of reasonable analysis of January 6 (witness the comments in this forum alone!), it does seem likely that the capacity for higher education might prove an obstacle to anyone reaching the groundless conclusions you are holding onto. I think the most likely reason Trump isn't facing charges connected with January 6 is that there isn't any evidence to support them.

A laptop along with its contents is, by contrast, evidence.

The most likely reason Trump isn’t facing charges connected with January 6 is that the investigation is still going on…

 

[WyattEarp]

While a law degree is certainly no guarantee of reasonable analysis of January 6 (witness the comments in this forum alone!), it does seem likely that the capacity for higher education might prove an obstacle to anyone reaching the groundless conclusions you are holding onto. I think the most likely reason Trump isn't facing charges connected with January 6 is that there isn't any evidence to support them.

A laptop along with its contents is, by contrast, evidence.

Very good point.

Not trying to be glib, but CNN (and cable news) can be bad for your brain.

 

[Dave58]

. I think the most likely reason Trump isn't facing charges connected with January 6 is that there isn't any evidence to support them.

You seriously think your hero had absolutely nothing to do with the riot on Jan 6 to stop Joe Biden from being president .

Fucking amazing

 

[Dave58]

Not trying to be glib, but CNN (and cable news) can be bad for your brain.

I think being a Trump supporter is bad . Period .

 

[WyattEarp]

You don't need a law degree to understand that if Trump is not held accountable for both his attempted coup and the January 6 attack, why would Trump -- or any future president for that matter -- think that they can't do the same? The stakes are too high for timidity given our democratic Republic hangs in the balance. The demand must be made by all who seek to preserve it is this: "Attorney General Garland, do your job."

If you try to look at things from the other side, many people look at the liberal funded fake Steele Dossier- ensuing FBI probe-prolonged Mueller investigation as an effort to usurp power and debilitate a President. (Many are not interested in taxi cab medallions, porn stars and the tax filings of Trump associates and hangers-on.) I'm certain Trump did something wrong with the Russians just doesn't it cut it when emotions can drive politics.

If the Democrats and the media can do that to Trump, why can't it happen again? You might not actually see it again because they have likely brought future Republican Presidents to heel with this threat.

 

[poker]

While a law degree is certainly no guarantee of reasonable analysis of January 6 (witness the comments in this forum alone!), it does seem likely that the capacity for higher education might prove an obstacle to anyone reaching the groundless conclusions you are holding onto. I think the most likely reason Trump isn't facing charges connected with January 6 is that there isn't any evidence to support them.

A laptop along with its contents is, by contrast, evidence.

A laptop obtained in under warrant in a federal or police raid would absolutely be considered evidence.

A laptop stolen… given to a random supporter who owned a computer repair place (who had broken security cameras, and was not at the shop when it was dropped off)… who takes it upon himself to go through its contents… then take it upon himself to give it to the Rudy Giuliani team…. Who then deliver it to the FBI while notifying the media during an election campaign…. Well, that’s not evidence. A lot of hands had access to that laptop didn’t they.

Any who still promoting that story is one of 2 things…. Either too uneducated to understand the very basic rules of “evidence”, how it’s gathered, what’s admissible in court….

Or… (and this is big), So tied to a political ideology based in tribalism, that they have become so cognitively biased, they will accept anything, (and I mean anything!), to support a narrative they created in there mind. Sure, the narrative was put their by external extremism… but it’s there just the same. And no amount of common sense is going to change that as long as they “Right Wing Media” to keep feeding that beast. (For political gain of course).

 

[Dutch Oven]

You seriously think your hero had absolutely nothing to do with the riot on Jan 6 to stop Joe Biden from being president .

Fucking amazing

Not my hero (more evidence that you believe things despite the absence of any support for your beliefs). My "heroes" are not from the world of politics.

"Absolutely nothing to do with" is not the test for criminality. He gave a speech. He encouraged protest. No evidence, even after all this investigation, that he aided, counselled, or abetted any unlawful activity.

As to stopping Biden from becoming President - if only we could have been spared this bumbling career grifter! Everything he touches turns to shite. Worst President in my lifetime!

 

[Dutch Oven]

A laptop obtained in under warrant in a federal or police raid would absolutely be considered evidence.

A laptop stolen… given to a random supporter who owned a computer repair place (who had broken security cameras, and was not at the shop when it was dropped off)… who takes it upon himself to go through its contents… then take it upon himself to give it to the Rudy Giuliani team…. Who then deliver it to the FBI while notifying the media during an election campaign…. Well, that’s not evidence. A lot of hands had access to that laptop didn’t they.

Good luck with that argument. Computer science has come a long way. Analysts can detect when/if content was changed or added. There's a chain of possession that can be established without any gaps.

Any who still promoting that story is one of 2 things…. Either too uneducated to understand the very basic rules of “evidence”, how it’s gathered, what’s admissible in court….

Are you suggesting that there was a break in the chain of custody and/or there is evidence of tampering with the contents that would make the information from the laptop inadmissible? I don't think so. Plus, most of the meaningful records are e-mails that can be corroberated by server records and/or the e-mail records of 3rd parties who were copied with the correspondence. You can argue about whether the evidence is sufficiently clear to establish specific propositions, but you can hardly argue that the evidence would be inadmissible for the reasons you suggest.

 

[WyattEarp]

A laptop obtained in under warrant in a federal or police raid would absolutely be considered evidence.

A laptop stolen….…...

Was it stolen? I thought it was abandoned. There's nothing wrong with intelligizing this, but it all fairness let's start with the right facts and work from there.

I'm not a criminal lawyer. I don't know what someone's rights are in regards to the privacy of abandoned property.

 

[poker]

Good luck with that argument. Computer science has come a long way. Analysts can detect when/if content was changed or added. There's a chain of possession that can be established without any gaps.



Are you suggesting that there was a break in the chain of custody and/or there is evidence of tampering with the contents that would make the information from the laptop inadmissible? I don't think so. Plus, most of the meaningful records are e-mails that can be corroberated by server records and/or the e-mail records of 3rd parties who were copied with the correspondence. You can argue about whether the evidence is sufficiently clear to establish specific propositions, but you can hardly argue that the evidence would be inadmissible for the reasons you suggest.

Who dropped it off at the Computer shop? When was it stolen? 2 years ago? 5 years ago? Prove to me the last day Hunter Biden had possession of it?

Even if you could, (which you can’t), Hunter Biden is a private citizen. And yes… he lived off daddies name. Been appointed to boards. Done private business. He is a shit stain on the fabric of society. But none of that is illegal. Trump had patents in China approved for his company, and his for his children.

It’s cute how you scream “Nepotism!”… all the while ignoring Nepotism.

Personally… I don’t give a fuck about any of them. If they something illegal I couldn’t do… fuck’m! Send them to jail. Dem, GOP, Lib, Con…. Doesn’t matter to me. None of them care about me. I just wish more people thought like me.

 

[Dutch Oven]

Who dropped it off at the Computer shop? When was it stolen? 2 years ago? 5 years ago? Prove to me the last day Hunter Biden had possession of it?

Even if you could, (which you can’t), Hunter Biden is a private citizen. And yes… he lived off daddies name. Been appointed to boards. Done private business. He is a shit stain on the fabric of society. But none of that is illegal. Trump had patents in China approved for his company, and his for his children.

It’s cute how you scream “Nepotism!”… all the while ignoring Nepotism.

Personally… I don’t give a fuck about any of them. If they something illegal I couldn’t do… fuck’m! Send them to jail. Dem, GOP, Lib, Con…. Doesn’t matter to me. None of them care about me. I just wish more people thought like me.

Everything you claim is hard to prove is actually easy to prove, which is why the FBI is currently taking the contents of the laptop seriously.

If the contents of the laptop are as unequivocal as reported, it contains evidence that Joe Biden was integral to Hunter's influence peddling business - both while Joe was VP, and, subsequently, while Joe was in the process of seeking the 2020 Democratic candidacy (with a view to the Presidency). Corrupt stuff.

 

[dirtydaveiii]

If you try to look at things from the other side, many people look at the liberal funded fake Steele Dossier- ensuing FBI probe-prolonged Mueller investigation as an effort to usurp power and debilitate a President. (Many are not interested in taxi cab medallions, porn stars and the tax filings of Trump associates and hangers-on.) I'm certain Trump did something wrong with the Russians just doesn't it cut it when emotions can drive politics.

If the Democrats and the media can do that to Trump, why can't it happen again? You might not actually see it again because they have likely brought future Republican Presidents to heel with this threat.

Wow all the crazies out today. Is it national tinfoil hat day ?

 

[jalimon]

You seriously think your hero had absolutely nothing to do with the riot on Jan 6 to stop Joe Biden from being president .

Fucking amazing

I seriously cannot comprehend that people do not understand that Jan 6 was a coup to overthrown democracy.

People who do not wake up now will regret it.

 

[toguy5252]

I seriously cannot comprehend that people do not understand that Jan 6 was a coup to overthrown democracy.

People who do not wake up now will regret it.

The followers of the now former only twice impeached POTUS in history are members of a cult of personality. Objective facts and reality are irrelevant and it is only the "truth" that is handed down by their leader which is accepted.

 

[poker]

Everything you claim is hard to prove is actually easy to prove, which is why the FBI is currently taking the contents of the laptop seriously.

If the contents of the laptop are as unequivocal as reported, it contains evidence that Joe Biden was integral to Hunter's influence peddling business - both while Joe was VP, and, subsequently, while Joe was in the process of seeking the 2020 Democratic candidacy (with a view to the Presidency). Corrupt stuff.

Peddling influence is not a crime… Neither is diplomats staying at a Trump property looking for political favours from Trump while he was in office. Corporations are apparently people…

Bottom line… you appear to be a blinded by politics in your decision making. Sorry. Investigating the Bidens means they were dirty… but the Trumps were always innocent? You make excuses for this side, and believe and promote everything nasty said about the other. That’s not smart.

If the Bidens are guilty of anything, I hope they pay for it. Same for the Trumps.
… btw, how did Hillary’s email scandal turn out? Bet you were all over that once upon a time.

 

[richaceg]

You seriously think your hero had absolutely nothing to do with the riot on Jan 6 to stop Joe Biden from being president .

Fucking amazing

You are too emotionally invested in Trump...while you may know something about Trump having to do with the riot...DoJ and the authorities don't have the kind of information you possess to nail Trump in the Jan 6 riot...if you really wanna help with the investigation...cough up the proof instead of bitching about what you know in an escort review board...

 

[poker]

Was it stolen? I thought it was abandoned. There's nothing wrong with intelligizing this, but it all fairness let's start with the right facts and work from there.

I'm not a criminal lawyer. I don't know what someone's rights are in regards to the privacy of abandoned property.

The GOP narrative is it was abandoned. However, nobody can prove Hunter Biden brought it in. The camera’s were turned off that day. (Go figure). The store owner was not the on the property when it was apparently dropped off.

… and most importantly, Rudy was involved.

 

[Leimonis]

hunter and trump junior should start a charity which would be helping people who cannot have kids to come to terms with it. The charity’s slogan would be “you haven’t missed much” or “consider yourself lucky”