The Beer Store

Not just 19 year olds but Muslim store owners are not allowed to sell beer.

Incorrect, most convenience stores (in Toronto anyway) are owned by Koreans and Assyrians (Christian Iraqi). Not sure about Koreans but I don't envy the task of someone attempting to rob an Assyrian shop - those guys are crazy!

Assyrians make good soldiers, quite a number of them are in the Canadian Military. In Afghanistan, they terrify the Talibian, they take no prisoners. Which is why President Obama begged Prime Minister Harper to keep them on the ground.
 
Assyrians (Christian Iraqi). Not sure about Koreans but I don't envy the task of someone attempting to rob an Assyrian shop - those guys are crazy!

Assyrians make good soldiers, quite a number of them are in the Canadian Military. In Afghanistan, they terrify the Talibian, they take no prisoners.

These Assyrians are one tough group. I knew they were conquered by the Muslim Arabs but did not know until now they were never defeated and never converted to Islam.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria
 
I'm willing to bet now that it's common knowledge that the Beer Store is not government owned, robberies might be come a little more regular. After all you are stealing from the very very rich and not the pop and mom store.
 
Yes, Beer Store is private ownership unlike the LCBO. There were actually complaints that Beer Store was not giving adequate shelf space to craft brewers. The driving motive behind the Conservatives attempt to break the contract is to break the beer monopoly.

Question: Where do I return my empties if the Beer Store ceases to exist?

Yes, the Beer Store are assholes. Ask anyone who does business with them. They treat craft brewers, restaurants and bars like shit.

The Beer Store isn't going anywhere, despite their claims (lies) that 7,000 employees will lose their jobs. That's almost their entire workforce. lol

They will continue to exist, sell beer and accept empties. The reason they take returns is they make money on it. Not because they're trying to save the planet. The only difference is it will be more convenient to buy beer at more locations throughout the city.

As it is, the Beer Store has or is in the process of closing many location in Toronto because they can make more money selling the land to developers. https://www.blogto.com/eat_drink/2017/03/beer-stores-condos-across-toronto/

There's no guarantee the developers will incorporate Beer Stores into them which can take many years to build. You can be certain there won't be any parking though. Just another reason to allow beer in the corner store.

Why is Ford having such a hard on about putting more alcoholic drinks in the hands of Ontarians? Something doesn't quite feel right.

The notion that somehow Ford is trying to put more alcoholic drinks in the hands of Ontarians is laughable. Have you never traveled to other parts of the world (or Quebec) where you can pop into a corner store to pick up 6 pack?

OMG Beer in the corner store. The sky is falling, the sky is falling. We're all doomed!
 
this move will have huge public support because everyone knows the beer store contract was a huge oligarchal scam.

this documentary explains it all: https://vimeo.com/111595688

the short-term financial costs will be nothing compared to the increased tax revenue now that the market will finally be liberated.

as for the fear-mongering over robberies - lmao, quebec has had booze sold in corner stores, grocery stores, etc since as far as i remember and you haven't heard about any issues with wide-spread robberies. also, literally every business takes precautions against robberies by not keeping too much cash onsite.

LCBO stores are being robbed virtually every day. Gangs of punks simply walk in and grab as many bottles as they can carry and then just walk out. There has been several news stories about these thefts and staff members have been instructed to simply let it happen and to not try and stop them.
 
Every convenient store should be allowed to sell beer.
 
Yes, the Beer Store are assholes. Ask anyone who does business with them. They treat craft brewers, restaurants and bars like shit.

The Beer Store isn't going anywhere, despite their claims (lies) that 7,000 employees will lose their jobs. That's almost their entire workforce. lol

They will continue to exist, sell beer and accept empties. The reason they take returns is they make money on it. Not because they're trying to save the planet. The only difference is it will be more convenient to buy beer at more locations throughout the city.

As it is, the Beer Store has or is in the process of closing many location in Toronto because they can make more money selling the land to developers. https://www.blogto.com/eat_drink/2017/03/beer-stores-condos-across-toronto/

There's no guarantee the developers will incorporate Beer Stores into them which can take many years to build. You can be certain there won't be any parking though. Just another reason to allow beer in the corner store.



The notion that somehow Ford is trying to put more alcoholic drinks in the hands of Ontarians is laughable. Have you never traveled to other parts of the world (or Quebec) where you can pop into a corner store to pick up 6 pack?

OMG Beer in the corner store. The sky is falling, the sky is falling. We're all doomed!

Yes, I have but those people are not Canadian and they know how to be responsible with alcohol. That was sarcasm.....

Alcohol is evil and the point since you missed it, is so that people will drink more in order to generate more revenue.

In Canada, there were around 77,000 hospitalizations entirely caused by alcohol in 2015–2016, compared to 75,000 hospitalizations for heart attacks in the same year. In 2002, alcohol was responsible for 4,258 deaths in Canada, representing 1.9% of all deaths.

I would like to see the number of deaths at zero, because over 4000 families have been affected in a single year over something that is preventable.
 
If they cancel the contract here is what I think will happen.
1)Huge lawsuit dragging out for years with an eventual settlement that will cost taxpayers 100's of millions.Taxpayers money flushed down the toilet for no reason.
2) Once again taxpayers will pay for the lawsuit/settlement with a huge tax increase on beer and booze sold at the LCBO.
3) Once beer is available in corner stores the big breweries will buy shelf spaces and lock out craft and smaller breweries from getting shelf space.
4)beer stores in smaller communities will close.

Anyway I look at it, it just a stupid idea to waste time and resources with cancelling the contract.Just ride it out and don't renew it when it's due.The province has bigger fish to fry than worrying about access to beer when it already exists. Cancelling the contract won't make beer any cheaper,just more costly as I see it.
 
There will be less Craft beer since convenience stores won't have the shelf space and no one under the age of 19 will be able to work in a convenience store and sell beer. (good bye summer jobs)

Many LCBOs carry craft beer so I'm not worried.

Decades ago when Labbat, Moslon, and Sleeman were Canadian owned I wasn't opposed to them having the contract but it hasn't been that way for a while. My preferred solution would be for the LCBO to take away their business rather than convenience stores (grocery chains at least have enough purchasing power and shelf space to keep a good selection though - and the big chains are Canadian).
 
I kinda like my Beer Store people... I can't say their locations have not been 'convenient'. Probably too-convenient...
 

Likely because the heavy fines are more significant than the family running the store than a random employee. I somehow doubt that with Ford's cuts the fear of enforcement will decrease.
 
I'm surprised the Beer Store doesn't have a rent a cop, like the library.