Anyone find Ford's buck a beer? Selling in variety stores will go the same path. Keep it in grocery and Beer Store.
The Beer Store
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Incorrect, most convenience stores (in Toronto anyway) are owned by Koreans and Assyrians (Christian Iraqi). Not sure about Koreans but I don't envy the task of someone attempting to rob an Assyrian shop - those guys are crazy!
Assyrians make good soldiers, quite a number of them are in the Canadian Military. In Afghanistan, they terrify the Talibian, they take no prisoners. Which is why President Obama begged Prime Minister Harper to keep them on the ground.
These Assyrians are one tough group. I knew they were conquered by the Muslim Arabs but did not know until now they were never defeated and never converted to Islam.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria
Yes, the Beer Store are assholes. Ask anyone who does business with them. They treat craft brewers, restaurants and bars like shit.
The Beer Store isn't going anywhere, despite their claims (lies) that 7,000 employees will lose their jobs. That's almost their entire workforce. lol
They will continue to exist, sell beer and accept empties. The reason they take returns is they make money on it. Not because they're trying to save the planet. The only difference is it will be more convenient to buy beer at more locations throughout the city.
As it is, the Beer Store has or is in the process of closing many location in Toronto because they can make more money selling the land to developers. https://www.blogto.com/eat_drink/2017/03/beer-stores-condos-across-toronto/
There's no guarantee the developers will incorporate Beer Stores into them which can take many years to build. You can be certain there won't be any parking though. Just another reason to allow beer in the corner store.
The notion that somehow Ford is trying to put more alcoholic drinks in the hands of Ontarians is laughable. Have you never traveled to other parts of the world (or Quebec) where you can pop into a corner store to pick up 6 pack?
OMG Beer in the corner store. The sky is falling, the sky is falling. We're all doomed!
LCBO stores are being robbed virtually every day. Gangs of punks simply walk in and grab as many bottles as they can carry and then just walk out. There has been several news stories about these thefts and staff members have been instructed to simply let it happen and to not try and stop them.
Yes, I have but those people are not Canadian and they know how to be responsible with alcohol. That was sarcasm.....
Alcohol is evil and the point since you missed it, is so that people will drink more in order to generate more revenue.
In Canada, there were around 77,000 hospitalizations entirely caused by alcohol in 2015–2016, compared to 75,000 hospitalizations for heart attacks in the same year. In 2002, alcohol was responsible for 4,258 deaths in Canada, representing 1.9% of all deaths.
I would like to see the number of deaths at zero, because over 4000 families have been affected in a single year over something that is preventable.
If they cancel the contract here is what I think will happen.
1)Huge lawsuit dragging out for years with an eventual settlement that will cost taxpayers 100's of millions.Taxpayers money flushed down the toilet for no reason.
2) Once again taxpayers will pay for the lawsuit/settlement with a huge tax increase on beer and booze sold at the LCBO.
3) Once beer is available in corner stores the big breweries will buy shelf spaces and lock out craft and smaller breweries from getting shelf space.
4)beer stores in smaller communities will close.
Anyway I look at it, it just a stupid idea to waste time and resources with cancelling the contract.Just ride it out and don't renew it when it's due.The province has bigger fish to fry than worrying about access to beer when it already exists. Cancelling the contract won't make beer any cheaper,just more costly as I see it.
1)Huge lawsuit dragging out for years with an eventual settlement that will cost taxpayers 100's of millions.Taxpayers money flushed down the toilet for no reason.
2) Once again taxpayers will pay for the lawsuit/settlement with a huge tax increase on beer and booze sold at the LCBO.
3) Once beer is available in corner stores the big breweries will buy shelf spaces and lock out craft and smaller breweries from getting shelf space.
4)beer stores in smaller communities will close.
Anyway I look at it, it just a stupid idea to waste time and resources with cancelling the contract.Just ride it out and don't renew it when it's due.The province has bigger fish to fry than worrying about access to beer when it already exists. Cancelling the contract won't make beer any cheaper,just more costly as I see it.
For anyone in favour of letting the contract run it's course, here's an interesting rebuttal argument, from TVO no less:
http://https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2F2I7wnsL%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR1OdjL3kpVSjGBXLEzOHZgI0b1_mA0wPv2QL3pgLLFomDEELq5mHAeRSi0&h=AT2Ka-stZWgBobbUxcs-whUNyAHt-oZnt3v7RA0oEUjebTSdTwxwzUsg2vNd-moVT4GwcOuij1cMJsF_iWR8XRfixZ4FIQ88eqg3s5IX1-1iGskyIfAzVaq5hJ_60P23T_fXKEQs75FNX8QFq30d_mmgDRu89_XfcW-dfTBCOI6FRAG1-LoqmPHPUupOOLSasLBBLXFSEP8TQoHnCw1c_P_4Nn7RG0ZIGDC2v_OJsM7lvabVHZlHC9lt10nk54Z_7mdjqByX8Wx4kUtp4EE2JmAqLHfTSRXZYJlMPIv0CeC_wAMXvPwI7NiNktMYob1GgZRZLvtQMqgRmmAYelqpUjBMGUOUucu-VZmhJvzFnQ40vUJjdt7NnMmo03ybUi0uyCY5J-hdBwNYbfke3HRodil0heZtNgdIrM-rdfPiMJr2bD7elnKUosHlsNRfgK-tGgkx_1zfEsZ9Rbar1qBmIGIbFqJGPjP06HRCeP-mK0_J7ZYdjc5T46k36mF2KEKsiXg80Y9oA0bljzmocb5NB184ZOfWRQtnyZid7dytqvPZ_RbSpMwmVkwxzrBPmxHrnKh949I7CTbdcGIYSNjpeZNGxIKnAjbUPwLkMN4NLt5XOonPxpOzNxAs
as for underage drinking, Convenience stores perform much better that either the Beer Store or the LCBO when it comes to identifying and refusing service. In studies, CS cashiers catch 90% of underaged purchasers of tobacco and lottery products, compared to 80% at the Beer Syore or 70% at the LCBO (rounded numbers).
http://https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2F2I7wnsL%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR1OdjL3kpVSjGBXLEzOHZgI0b1_mA0wPv2QL3pgLLFomDEELq5mHAeRSi0&h=AT2Ka-stZWgBobbUxcs-whUNyAHt-oZnt3v7RA0oEUjebTSdTwxwzUsg2vNd-moVT4GwcOuij1cMJsF_iWR8XRfixZ4FIQ88eqg3s5IX1-1iGskyIfAzVaq5hJ_60P23T_fXKEQs75FNX8QFq30d_mmgDRu89_XfcW-dfTBCOI6FRAG1-LoqmPHPUupOOLSasLBBLXFSEP8TQoHnCw1c_P_4Nn7RG0ZIGDC2v_OJsM7lvabVHZlHC9lt10nk54Z_7mdjqByX8Wx4kUtp4EE2JmAqLHfTSRXZYJlMPIv0CeC_wAMXvPwI7NiNktMYob1GgZRZLvtQMqgRmmAYelqpUjBMGUOUucu-VZmhJvzFnQ40vUJjdt7NnMmo03ybUi0uyCY5J-hdBwNYbfke3HRodil0heZtNgdIrM-rdfPiMJr2bD7elnKUosHlsNRfgK-tGgkx_1zfEsZ9Rbar1qBmIGIbFqJGPjP06HRCeP-mK0_J7ZYdjc5T46k36mF2KEKsiXg80Y9oA0bljzmocb5NB184ZOfWRQtnyZid7dytqvPZ_RbSpMwmVkwxzrBPmxHrnKh949I7CTbdcGIYSNjpeZNGxIKnAjbUPwLkMN4NLt5XOonPxpOzNxAs
as for underage drinking, Convenience stores perform much better that either the Beer Store or the LCBO when it comes to identifying and refusing service. In studies, CS cashiers catch 90% of underaged purchasers of tobacco and lottery products, compared to 80% at the Beer Syore or 70% at the LCBO (rounded numbers).
What’s the matter dip shit? Realize I exposed your stupidity? Now your probably in your parents basement trying to understand how this works.
Many LCBOs carry craft beer so I'm not worried.
Decades ago when Labbat, Moslon, and Sleeman were Canadian owned I wasn't opposed to them having the contract but it hasn't been that way for a while. My preferred solution would be for the LCBO to take away their business rather than convenience stores (grocery chains at least have enough purchasing power and shelf space to keep a good selection though - and the big chains are Canadian).
I kinda like my Beer Store people... I can't say their locations have not been 'convenient'. Probably too-convenient...
Likely because the heavy fines are more significant than the family running the store than a random employee. I somehow doubt that with Ford's cuts the fear of enforcement will decrease.
