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The Bash Fuji Thread
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it is incompatible with cheating because you promised to love and honour, you are not honouring your wife by cheating on her.
Again.. get over it.
you may have those things i mentioned but you choose to ignore them
Nope. I don't. I make an exception for sexual hypocrisy.
will power- the desire to cheat but not doing it.
Why not just go without sex entirely if you want to show off your willpower? While I agree it takes will power, I am not sure that a self-loathing sort of willpower is any sign of greatness.
And so on.
the fact you said you would leave your wife if she cheated on you says a lot about the class of man you are.
Hey, wouldn't that show backbone, willpower, etc?
Your First mistake is ASSUMING everyone is like you.
I don't assume everyone is like me. I assume that a great many people are less able to attract women and are forced into relationships that are not like mine. Note that I'm not really claiming to be all that special but I have some basics, I'm athletic and fit, I have a high income, I am told I have a nice smile, I can carry a conversation, and tell a few jokes. I don't claim to have great looks or be super charistmatic, but success, being fit in a world of fatsos, and being at least OK on the rest seems to put you on most women's A list. Oh and if any of cute-bald's various terb incarnations are reading, yes I'm not super tall, but I am above average height.
Anyway I assume that lesser men wind up either in open relationships, or in monogamous ones. They'll probably even convince themselves that they chose that lifestyle. People have a way of convincing themselves that they chose the things they were forced to accept.
Your Fifth mistake was admitting being a hypocrite and being proud of the fact.
Sorry, but I remain proud of that.
My Issue has always been I believe in Karma. I believe that if a woman cheats on her partner with me, eventually I will have my partner cheat on me.
That's not karma, that's an established pattern of behavior. I agree with you--I would avoid women like that too. See "sexual hypocrisy".
A great question to ask you is, What would YOU DO if you caught your WIFE and your GIRLFRIEND cheating on you?
Kick her ass to the curb immediately and not look back.
Factually incorrect premise.
You've given no evidence that it is "factually incorrect" that people decide whether or not to suppress their urges based on their odds of success. That would imply you had empirical data. You don't. Again, you demonstrate an incompetence here that makes me think "philosophy school drop-out".
As for your argument you made against this premise:
Sometimes getting caught might be the only reason not to do something, sometimes getting caught plus other reasons explains restraint, and sometimes restraint has nothing to do with getting caught and everything to do with other reasons. People just aren't as bankrupt as fuji needs them to be to make himself feel better.
The urges in question are "a desire to have multiple sexual partners" and "a desire to prevent sexual partners from having other sexual partners". My claim is basically that people will assess their situation and decide on a course of action that maximizes their satisfaction, based on their current situation, and their odds of success.
What you've said is really not incompatible with that. It's not only about restraint, it's about choosing the path that is most likely to lead to the most successful outcome.
Also, note fuji slips in urge to cheat as a basic desire.
No, that is a misrepresentation of what I've said. I have not said that. I have said that the basic desires are a desire for multiple partners, and to have exclusive sexual access to those partners.
Cheating is a complex behavior that arises as one way to fulfill those desires.
So what fuji is saying is it would be wrong for a morality to say anything at all about any urge related to sexual conduct.
Yes.
The only way that can be true is if all urges are good, which is the naturalistic fallacy
That doesn't follow at all. To say that something is not wrong is not to say that it is good. You have a basic error in your reasoning here.
or if morality has no place in sexual conduct discussions, which has already been shown not to be true (even by fuji's admission).
Misrepresentation. What we have agreed is that universal codes apply. You have repeatedly failed in every effort to argue that morality should apply to sexual conduct any further than that.
Si, FUJI's not gone. I suspect he's having a family day.
I'm in Muskoka with my wife. We had a great Friday and Saturday. Now we're having a lazy Sunday, I'm replying to you terb lifer's from the deck while she's napping. Have a great Sunday.
You forget the categories "none" and "casual", and probably more. People get into relationships of whatever kind for many reasons. Fuji, you are not in a relationship. You are just associated with some woman that you exploit. Nothing about that makes you better than others, indeed it places you at the bottom of the pack.
You really should quit making up stuff you don't know, in my experience people who go around making up stuff about others to make themselves feel better are really just living houses of cards.
You forget the categories "none" and "casual", and probably more. People get into relationships of whatever kind for many reasons. Fuji, you are not in a relationship. You are just associated with some woman that you exploit. Nothing about that makes you better than others, indeed it places you at the bottom of the pack.
The majority of married terbites are in relationships with women who exploit them. Where does it place them?
The majority of terbites are in relationships with women who exploit them. Where does it place them?
You really know a whole lot about TERBland and I'd like to know where you get the knowledge. A majority? Very Fuji. Are we talking 51% or 90%.
You really know a whole lot about TERBland and I'd like to know where you get the knowledge. A majority? Very Fuji. Are we talking 51% or 90%.
I look at the numbers of people who do in calls rather than outcalls. These people have been driven [by their wives] outside of their houses to enjoy the brightest moments of their life [in stinky apartments on used mattresses] and contrary to the criminal code.
This thread and a couple of others have shown FUJI what TERBIES really think of him and his comments by an overwhelming majority. All he's really don't is confirm in his number of responses, which are blank in my book (no big loss) even before he returns from his family weekend is that they are bang on. It's the time proven 'he doth protest too much' reaction. Something tells from other members posts that FUJIs posts are simply more of the canned responses he has laid down over time, wasted in large part except to make him feel better by defending his, gawd forgive me, honour. He couldn't even spend a family weekend with his wife without checking up on the outside world and in particular his fans on TERB.
I think we're using "exploit" in different ways. I would hope we could agree there is probably some significant differences to being in relationships in various stages of crappiness - such as shitty, unfulfilling, loveless, boring, perfunctory, whatever terms tickle your fancy - and being in a relationship where one person is being deliberately and wantonly unfair and unjust. Of course if you're in a relationship where you feel your partner is being unfair and unjust, as opposed to just someone who pisses you off, you might want to split!
I remember a post sometime back where FUJI made it quite clear that if he found his wife was cheating on him, he'd kick she out and not think twice about it. speak volumes about him i big letters. Unfortunately it appears AH is attending the same reading classes.
Your tolerance for fuji bullshit is astounding.I don't need to, dickwad. Common sense suffices. It was you who wrote that people suppress urges based on their odds of success. I pointed out this is not true in all cases, hence your premise is incorrect, because you specified only one basis upon which decisions are made but in reality decisions are made on both other bases sometimes and sometimes on grounds of multiple base at once.
For example. Were I to meet you in person, I have absolutely no doubt I would have a very strong urge to smack you right in the head. Now, I am aware it is generally against the law to do such things, self-defense and so forth notwithstanding. Faced with such an urge, I would probably balance my urge to smack you in the head with other considerations that have nothing to do with the odds of me getting prosecuted for smacking you in the head, such as my general disdain for violence, my belief that I do not want to be known as someone who smacks people in the head, and so forth.
It is hard to believe that you haven`t put him on ignore yet.
Again.. get over it.
Nope. I don't. I make an exception for sexual hypocrisy.
Why not just go without sex entirely if you want to show off your willpower? While I agree it takes will power, I am not sure that a self-loathing sort of willpower is any sign of greatness.
And so on.
Hey, wouldn't that show backbone, willpower, etc?
you have none of the things i said to be a man. if you don't show respect you get none back and you show none and deserve none. you lack moral comprehension and thinking that you are right shows how even deeper your lack of moral character and understanding goes.
I'm in Muskoka with my wife. We had a great Friday and Saturday. Now we're having a lazy Sunday, I'm replying to you terb lifer's from the deck while she's napping. Have a great Sunday.
muskoka, the holiday place of people from toronto that like to pretend they have money.
It takes very little brain power to refute his crap, plus it's kinda fun in that poking at fucked up objects way. But yeah, I suspect he'll make it to ignore in due time, so you're on the money buddy.
can i be on your ignore list, i am trying to work my way through the alphabet and i don't have an s yet lol.
muskoka, the holiday place of people from toronto that like to pretend they have money.
Your envy is showing.
I'm in Muskoka with my wife. We had a great Friday and Saturday. Now we're having a lazy Sunday, I'm replying to you terb lifer's from the deck while she's napping. Have a great Sunday.
Are you on one of the Big Three ??
We may be neighbours.
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