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Skoob

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As many see Elon, and unappointed person making govt policy, as a threat to democracy then it's all quite justified.
So everyone who performs work for the government needs to be appointed or elected?
What government policy did Musk create and pass exactly?

Please show your facts about who can perform work for the government and who has passed any related policies to what Musk has been working on.
 

Valcazar

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Answering questions with questions is an evasive tactic.
Only I didn't, did I?
I answered with a declarative sentence.

You said something illegal is ok because it doesn't upset you (and in this case because it's being done to someone you just don't like).
No, I said it might be legitimate.
It isn't necessarily ok.

(btw I'm having fun watching you tap dance around this and sadly, the only reason why you are is that you just don't like someone but are trying in vain to justify it for more sane reasons).
I'm glad you're enjoying yourself.
Watching this midnight freshman college dorm/Ben Shapiro-level "gotcha" work by you has been amusing on this end as well.

Take a step back from your bias for a moment...if someone you like had their business set on fire and received death threats simply because of their political leanings, you would be outraged.
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Valcazar

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Doing Nazi salutes is not 'political leanings'. It is entirely accepted to boycott businesses or other entities that engage in Nazi salutes.

That is why 94% of Germans will not buy a Tesla.
Nazi salutes are absolutely "political leanings".
 
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Valcazar

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...and the inevitable whatabout argument when cornered but I'll play along seeing as you're really desperate to draw similarities.
I agree it is silly to draw this comparison.
The Capital storming was many orders of magnitude worse than anything that has been happening at a Tesla dealership.
 
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Valcazar

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Do yourself a favor and use Google or something else to look up what the definition of terrorism is. You appear a bit lame by insisting vandalism is terrorism.
He's using the Oxford dictionary definition.
Using the exact legal definition in the jurisdiction in question is something that is only important when it can be used to defend Trump or someone else he likes.
 

Skoob

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I agree it is silly to draw this comparison.
The Capital storming was many orders of magnitude worse than anything that has been happening at a Tesla dealership.
So was WW2 and 9/11...keep distracting away from your hypocrisy though...watching people tap dance is entertaining for me!
 
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Valcazar

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So everyone who performs work for the government needs to be appointed or elected?
What government policy did Musk create and pass exactly?

Please show your facts about who can perform work for the government and who has passed any related policies to what Musk has been working on.
Interesting.
You're pleading ignorance of what Musk has been doing and the legal challenges to it?
 

danmand

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Nazi salutes is absolutely "political leanings".
I think most of Europe, at least, consider Nazi salutes beyond 'political leanings'. It is considered unacceptable provocations, and some places illegal.
 
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Valcazar

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So was WW2 and 9/11...keep distracting away from your hypocrisy though...watching people tap dance is entertaining for me!
And WWII isn't terrorism.
9/11 was.

I'm glad you are still trying to work out your definition and criteria though.
It's good to keep working at these sorts of things.
 

Valcazar

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I think most of Europe, at least, consider Nazi salutes beyond 'political leanings'. It is considered unacceptable provocations, and some places illegal.
Just because it is illegal doesn't mean it isn't political.
It is illegal because it is political, I would say.

Now, is every Nazi salute a political statement? Or even the same political statement?

Of course not.

But that's a level of nuance we can't expect Skoob to manage so I don't really see much point in bringing it up here.
 

Skoob

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Interesting.
You're pleading ignorance of what Musk has been doing and the legal challenges to it?
The only one pleading ignorance here is someone who thinks terrorist acts are not being conducted against him and give it a pass because...well...they just don't like him so that somehow makes it ok.
 
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danmand

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In Canada, "terrorist activity" is defined under the Criminal Code as an act committed "in whole or in part for a political, religious or ideological purpose, objective or cause" with the intention of intimidating the public or compelling a government to do or refrain from doing something.

I doubt anyone vandalizing a car dealership will be charged under the terrorism code.
 

Skoob

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In Canada, "terrorist activity" is defined under the Criminal Code as an act committed "in whole or in part for a political, religious or ideological purpose, objective or cause" with the intention of intimidating the public or compelling a government to do or refrain from doing something.
These acts are mainly being committed in the US but your definition still applies to what's being done to Musk regardless.
 

Valcazar

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In Canada, "terrorist activity" is defined under the Criminal Code as an act committed "in whole or in part for a political, religious or ideological purpose, objective or cause" with the intention of intimidating the public or compelling a government to do or refrain from doing something.
Skoob won't be using legal definitions here.

"It is against Musk" makes it Terrorism, regardless of what the actual activity is.
 

danmand

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These acts are mainly being committed in the US but your definition still applies to what's being done to Musk regardless.
It most definitely does not. Read again.
 

Butler1000

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So everyone who performs work for the government needs to be appointed or elected?
What government policy did Musk create and pass exactly?

Please show your facts about who can perform work for the government and who has passed any related policies to what Musk has been working on.
When it comes to govt policy, and how Congressional funds are spent, yes!

Would you want George Soros in the same position?
 

shack

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I guess you don't really care about all the people who would lose jobs if his businesses are driven under by lunatics?
An absolute joke of a post.

You don't give a shit about all the jobs of everyday people lost because of DOGE. But you give a shit about a billionaire. I'm sure the number of job losses due to DOGE dwarfs the number of Tesla job losses.
 
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