Teksavvy ordered to release names of 2000 downloading customers

[kbiii2]

Correct, you can still download for personal use as long as you do not resell. Copying a movie to a DVR for later viewing, recording to a VCR or DVD recorder is the same as
downloading to your computer. Its just tough to find a VCR or DVD recorder anymore since the movie industry more or less pressured the manufacturers to stop producing
them. Plus you cannot use an HDMI connection, as far as I know. Have to use the older connections still available on AV receivers.

 

[rhuarc29]

Many of my friends use torrents for Game of Thrones. The funny thing is, they all have HBO and they watch the episodes there as they are released. They just don't want to wait 10 months in order to pick up the blu-rays to watch them again. So they torrent. Then they still pick up the blu-rays once they're released!

The problem isn't so much with downloaders. It has more to do with the music, tv, and movie industries following archaic business models. Not only is it all overpriced, but they make it as hard as possible to get the content the way you want it, when you want it. If someone has to signup for a service, read over and agree to a lengthy legal agreement, then use a clunky interface to watch something on-demand legally using a shitty streaming service, why wouldn't they just download a torrent and watch a high quality video on their regular video player at a time of their choosing, and store it for later viewings?

 

[Babypowder]

If they can be shown to be profiting, absolutely. If they downloaded for personal use, criminal charges may be warranted but they would be a very minor charge (like shoplifting) and likely not worth prosecuting..

wrong

 

[basketcase]

wrong

In which way?

 

[Babypowder]

In which way?

you arent going to get charged criminally for downloading copywritten content if you have no intent of redistributing it for money.

 

[turbin]

Good response from Teksavvy:


http://blogs.teksavvy.com/?p=2963

New Safeguards for Canadians
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Hey Gang,
Yesterday the Court made its final
ruling on Voltage’s filesharing suit,
Voltage Pictures vs. Does, and
we’re quite happy with the new
legal framework the court has
implemented. The Court is imposing
significant new safeguards that will
act to protect your privacy and
prevent speculative billing – or,
copyright trolling, where copyright
holders send out demand letters to
large numbers of alleged infringers,
many of whom may have perfectly
good defences to the alleged
infringement, with the objective of
extorting quick settlements. These
safeguards will make it difficult for
companies to use speculative billing
models in Canada by carefully
regulating how companies seek
reparation from alleged infringers.
We are very proud to have played a
role in increasing the protection of
consumers, their privacy and
discouraging copyright trolling.
We will continue to have a role
in the Court proceedings in
order to ensure our customer’s
rights are protected and that
the laws are followed as per the
Court Order. You can be
confident that we won’t release
any customer information until
all the conditions of the Court
are met.
Assuming all conditions are met,
the information that the court
ordered to be disclosed is strictly
limited to the names and addresses
linked to the customer accounts in
question, which is far less than the
original request from Voltage. We
are not required to disclose any
telephone numbers or email
addresses. Any and all information
disclosed to Voltage by TekSavvy
shall remain confidential and will
not be released to any other Parties
without further order of the Court,
or be used for any purpose beyond
the copyright claims being
asserted.
This is far from over. At this time,
we’re still unsure of how Voltage
intends to proceed, regardless their
proceedings will continue to be
subject to a judicial review. Any
letter that Voltage wishes to send to
the released customer names and
addresses will first need to be
reviewed and approved by CIPPIC,
TekSavvy and the Case
Management Judge, and must
include wording making it clear that
no court has determined that any
subscriber has infringed or is liable
in any way for the payment of
damages.
Thank you for staying informed on
this important case for Canadians’
consumer rights, and again, we’re
very glad to see a protective
framework introduced to govern all
mass requests of consumer
information by copyright trolls.
Find the complete Court Order
here.
Find our Press Release here,
entitled “Ruling in Filesharing Suit
Imposes New Safeguards for
Canadians”.
We’re with you every step of the
way, and we’ll continue to post
information to keep you up to date.
Sincerely,
Marc Gaudrault, CEO
TekSavvy Solutions Inc

 

[onthebottom]

They stole the movie and now they are getting caught

This ^^^^^^^^^

 

[Babypowder]

This is inaccurate

fixed your post

 

[BlueLaser]

So will Voltage go after Rogers and Bell customers next?

And when did they do that?

Downloading did major damage to the music industry.
Most studios in this city shut down about 10 years ago, for a while there were only two large ones left, though some have been opening up of late and major record labels have dropped a tonne of acts and slimmed down in a big way. There are no cd retail stores anymore, other then the occasional boutique one, sales have turned now to vinyl for collectables (though those come with download codes generally).

The film industry is on full attack mode to make sure that it doesn't happen to them, they're responsible for the '3 strikes' legislation that threatens your internet as well as heinous legislation like ACTA. They've become copyright trolls on youtube, shutting down channels left in right with copyright accusations that don't have to be backed up and take months to challenge.

Netflix is one response, and the studios don't like it, since it doesn't pay them enough which is shown by the content. iTunes has another model which also works, though the studios are fighting those lower prices as well.

So it may not be hurting you, but its causing major changes in the entertainment industry, which is a major employer these days.

My take on it is that they need to figure out how to make the most of the new reality and ditch the old model and the fight to retain it.

If you actually read the statements that come from people who actually study this stuff, as well as comments from those who were big players in the industry but have since left, you'll find that the opposite is true. Downloading is good for business. They don't want to stop downloading, per se, because they know it's good for business. That's why half the time when the source is traced, it's a huge scandal because it turns out that the copyright holder leaked it onto the internet to begin with. What they do want, however, is to double dip. They want the buzz and interest from downloads that help their business, but if they can get a few million here and then from lawsuits from downloading, they want those too.

 

[Ed Thomas]

Why download when you can just stream?

 

[Babypowder]

Why download when you can just stream?

you know when you stream you are downloading, right?

 

[ZenSouljah]

Perhaps they should go after the people who are uploading the videos and making them available for download in the first place?

 

[basketcase]

you arent going to get charged criminally for downloading copywritten content if you have no intent of redistributing it for money.

Good thing that you contradict nothing in my post.

If they can be shown to be profiting, absolutely. If they downloaded for personal use, criminal charges may be warranted but they would be a very minor charge (like shoplifting) and likely not worth prosecuting.

 

[Babypowder]

Good thing that you contradict nothing in my post.

You will NEVER be charged criminally for dowloading for personal use or is it EVER warranted. maybe that is clearer for you.