No, now the province will totally blame Ford if they go on strike.
And he can't try to pull the notwithstanding trick again or he'll get a general strike.
So now he has to negotiate instead of legislating a forced solution.
Ford loses.
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And he can't try to pull the notwithstanding trick again or he'll get a general strike.
So now he has to negotiate instead of legislating a forced solution.
Ford loses.
But of course!
The fact that Doug The Thug has been reduced to nothing but an embarrassing and disgraced shit eating bully, enforces your point.
I don't think you understand how math works.
If I have $100 and give it to you and then ask you to give me 50 as tax. I am left with $50., and you are left with 50 dollars.
If instead, I have $100 and give you $50, and ask you to give me nothing back as tax, I am left with $50 and you are left with $50 dollars.
So regardless of if you paid my tax or didn't pay my tax, the end result is the same.
Public Sector employees do not add to the tax base. Mathematically they are a wash.
Then make it a balanced process which it isn't right now, according to Economists, and the Auditor General.
That is the reason why, on average, public sector workers make more than people in the private sector with the equivalent training doing the equivalent job, including those represented by private sector Unions.
Buddy I guarantee it’s you who needs to take a math class. While you’re at it take an accounting and economics course too so you can get a bit of an understanding of concepts that you’re clearly unfamiliar with
In your view introducing a notwithstanding clause is a balanced approach?
Why not just declare them an essential service if it is all about the children?
Why do you want to appeal to the bottom denominator? Why not just eliminate the minimum wage so we can pay employees $5 an hour instead of $15?
“If you gave every public sector worker a pass on paying taxes and then reduced their salaries by that same amount, to keep all things equal, there would be absolutely no change to government revenue.”
Buddy’s smooth brained solution is to put public sector employees in the lowest tax bracket so effectively they wouldn’t pay taxes. A system which we already have in place now. Never surprises me how little individuals understand about income tax brackets and taxes in general as well
Buddy you used a 2nd grade concept to explain how income taxes work just for you to be wrong. Incredible how confidently incorrect and ignorant you are when it comes to taxation in Canada. If you want I’ll give you some of my economics and accounting textbooks from my university days so you can educate yourself.
Yup, he's giving away prime Green Belt land for more of the same from big donor developers.
It'll do nothing to fix any housing issues.
OK. Math genius.
Let me pose this logic question to you. Let's pretend everybody works in the public sector.
If you had a tax base and government revenue stream that consisted of nothing but public sector employees, so employees paid by the Government, do you think that model could sustain itself?
1. That situation would NEVER happen
2. Public sector employees provide socialized services so the police, firefighters, nurses, passport renewals, driver license and health card renewals etc are all socialized services
they deserve to be fairly compensated and to receive a living wage too
That is irrelevant for the purposes of math. If that model can not stand on it's own, then it can not contribute anything in the real world. So, answer the question. Would that model be able to sustain itself?
Yes or no, and either way, please explain how and why.
Okay so in your hypothetical situation there are no private businesses and the private sector is obsolete. Then the government would just engage in profitable business ventures and therefore hire T4 employees who are taxed at their marginal tax rate (let’s just say 30% to keep it simple). So the government is making profits from their business ventures, the employees are being paid for their work, and on top of that they’re paying all the taxes they owe since there aren’t many ways for T4 employees to significantly reduce their taxable income.
It should also be pointed out that many government services generate revenue that greater than the average pay of the public sector worker. I mean, Uncharted is parroting the anti-union right-wing playbook.
The bottom line in all this is these workers are seriously underpaid. They've been underpaid for about a decade, where they've only seen a 4% increase while the cost of living has jumped 18%. Yes, they were asking for 12% more over the length of the contract...Which might not keep pace with inflation. But Ford and Leece fucked up here. They thought they would get public support by crushing this union with a shitty contract that included draconian anti-strike measures AND acknowledging it was unconstitutional at the same time. However, at the same time...can you imagine them trying to collect fines from these workers who average $40K? That would be a PR nightmare for a government already looking like assholes.
Now, what will the fallout be? Will Leece be shuffled out of this, since many people will likely view him very negatively over this fiasco? I don't think it'll happen immediately, but maybe after all the other school board contracts are negotiated. I also don't think he'll try this heavy handed bullshit again. Now, for Ford....Will people remember this bullshit come the next election? Will he pay a price for this? I highly doubt that anyone in his cabinet will defect or launch a no-confidence vote.
Do you happen to know the figure for that? I recall reading an amount a while back I think it was like 120% or something but I wasn’t able to find the source unfortunately.
This is such a stupid hypothetical. The purpose of government is not to make a profit. It is not a corporation that needs to show improvement to investors every quarter or fiscal year. Deficits are necessary at times, but it also fulfills services that the private sector cannot or will not do. A push to privatize some of these services is in the Right-wing playbook as well, but as we've seen in many situations across the world, private businesses do not do a better job, and frequently cannot do them cheaper.
You are altering the paradigm.
If you can't make this closed scenario work on it's own, then it can not contribute when folded back into the whole. Simple as that. And it does not work. You have to once again, bring in outside money from other sources to make it work. If you have to do that, then they are not contributing.
