Tamil community protesters say they will not stop blocking the Gardiner Expressway...

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TeflonJohn said:
Your comment is irrevelant. When has this become a discussion about what anyone has done for the country. The debate is about how they ABUSE THEIR RIGHTS and ABUSE OR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE.

One thing I havnt done is been a parasite-leech-terrorist.
If it was a debate it would be, 'whether they abuse their rights', "how they ABUSE THEIR RIGHTS and ABUSE OR[sic] FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE" is a shrieked-out, one-sided harangue, but then you are vocabularily challenged. And you did waste my tax-dollars pretending to get an education. Does that qualify as "parasite-leech"? Certainly your venomous hatred is terrifying; makes one wish you could be sent back somewhere. Anywhere.

Anyway, spew on. I've no interest in what you call debate.
 

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TeflonJohn

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Only in Canada will people defend immigrant terrorists.

We are the "church and wellesley" of the world.
 

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herames said:
with that...i am thinking of the childsgame.."red rover ..red rover..let Esco ..ray finkle and Cycleguy come over!!!...break down those lines men
no kidding, i'm in the falls right now ,
we might take a drive to t.o. tomorrow
i wouldn't mind watching all this happen
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herames said:
with that...i am thinking of the childsgame.."red rover ..red rover..let Esco ..ray finkle and Cycleguy come over!!!...break down those lines men
MAN THE TORPEDOES!!!!
 

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Only in Canada will people defend immigrant terrorists.

We are the "church and wellesley" of the world.
 

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Well then my first question would be then why are they waving the LTTE flag, wearing LTTE branded clothes, and chanting LTTE slogans. .
That is the tragedy of the SL Tamil movement. LTTE hijacked the movement by eliminating other entities representing SL Tamils. Result is that SL Tamil movement has become synonymous with LTTE. SL Tamils have no other alternative now.

If they were politically savvy, they would have waved Canadian flag along with another flag representing tamil movement, not the LTTE flag. Infact, if they were politically savvy, they would have done a lot of things differently - not occupying Gardiner to begin with.
 

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raj_sekar_100 said:
Curious Newbee, I will not slam you buddy. All I will say is this - I love this country and all that it provides. Like you, sometimes I feel immigrants take Canada for granted. I feel it when Khadr' family abuses the hospitality of this nation. I felt it when so many "used" Canada for citizenship-of-convenience during the crisis in Lebanon last year. My pyramid rant was merely a response to the anti-immigrant rant from another Terbite.

Having said this, I do wish to respond to a comment that you made. You said "If you have to bring your wars with you and abuse the legal rights you do have, then, please, do us all a favour and go fight your battles where they are currently raging". Immigrants are not machines. They are people with feelings. If they grow up with certain values and culinary preferences, it cannot be shed off overnight once they enter Canada. Besides they cannot be expected to cut off all family connection with their relatives in their birth-country. When a relative in their birth-country suffers, they cannot but feel the pain.

I do feel though, that if an immigrant comes here, and starts imposing his values onto others, then it is taking it too far.

Unlike you and I, who made a conscious decision to immigrate to Canada because we were educated and wanted a better life, most of the Sri Lankan Tamils were driven out by their government. They were mostly illiterate or semi-literate rural folks who were forced out of their home. They settled wherever they could - majority settled in India, some fled to Canada, UK, Germany, France etc. If they cannot speak proper English, if they act like rural bumpkins, if they do not understand the Canadian system, don't ridicule them. ... empathize with them instead.
And therein lies the problem. These semi-literate rural folks have most likely been living within their own communities where, due to their illiteracy, they've been taken advantage of by the Tamil Tigers and such. Even though these refugees and immigrants have opportunities to better themselves, these communities don't tend to encourage them. This statement is not restricted just to the Tamil community but all such immigrant communities but I digress.

I understand that they're upset at losing friends and families to the situation in SL...but they need to be made to understand that their actions is not garnering the support they need. Someone within that community needs to stand up and speak out against the actions of this mob and also discourage them from flying any of the Tamil Tiger flags or wearing their colours, etc. The police/city/government need to make it clear that they will not respond if the terrorist organization is being displayed or supported in any way. The general public is fully aware that the Tamil Tigers are a terrorist organization. The city of Toronto and all levels of government are here to serve Canadians first. As such, they should demand that displays such as this will not have the desired effect they seek. Various countries, including Canada, has listed them as such. They need to refocus their energy on getting the support they need by doing things the way it should be done. Why not go protest at the UN headquarters? How about at Queens Park? As stated by another member, only the Federal government can issue a request and/or express their outrage at what's happening to the SL government. Tying up the roadways to get attention of all is not the way to do it. As you can tell in this thread alone, the feelings of 'hatred' are there....but more likely, it's frustration coming out as hatred...or not. I know I'm frustrated but not on the innocent civilians and am bordering on hatred against the mob mentality organizers and the terrorists.
 

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curious newbee said:
And therein lies the problem. These semi-literate rural folks have most likely been living within their own communities where, due to their illiteracy, they've been taken advantage of by the Tamil Tigers and such. Even though these refugees and immigrants have opportunities to better themselves, these communities don't tend to encourage them. This statement is not restricted just to the Tamil community but all such immigrant communities but I digress.
Yes, this is the kind of nuanced argument/analysis that we need. Not the vitriolic, primal response from some of the TERBites here.

The SL immigrants are mostly illiterate/semi-literate. They are taken advantage of by various groups. They tend to live within themselves. It is a chicken and egg problem.

The first generation of these immigrants are mostly indifferent. They are lost, with no guidance from their parents (parents themselves are lost) and face a huge culture shock between home and outside. They pretend to be something they are not. Many get into mindless gang violence. Ones that do get educated and a decent job, stay away from trouble by detaching themselves from the community.

Clearly, this is a community that is hurting. It is confused and hence irrational It is in need of a politically savvy leadership. It does not need abuse and ridicule.
 

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If the govt doesnt nip this in the bud we're gonna have every nation and every race hold demonstrations everytime somebody is oppressed.
 

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Time to bring out the 'Tamil Camels' and have everyone of them forced to ride out of this Country! After all - it's ours - not theirs!
 

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raj_sekar_100 said:
Yes, this is the kind of nuanced argument/analysis that we need. Not the vitriolic, primal response from some of the TERBites here.

The SL immigrants are mostly illiterate/semi-literate. They are taken advantage of by various groups. They tend to live within themselves. It is a chicken and egg problem.

The first generation of these immigrants are mostly indifferent. They are lost, with no guidance from their parents (parents themselves are lost) and face a huge culture shock between home and outside. They pretend to be something they are not. Many get into mindless gang violence. Ones that do get educated and a decent job, stay away from trouble by detaching themselves from the community.

Clearly, this is a community that is hurting. It is confused and hence irrational It is in need of a politically savvy leadership. It does not need abuse and ridicule.
As stated, the primal response is most likely out of frustration.

In regards to the illiteracy issue, shouldn't the community leaders be at the forefront encouraging these individuals to better themselves. By doing so, these individuals would be able to become a contributing member of this great nation...one that has given them so much already. Instead, they're encouraging their participation in such illegal demonstrations and in effect, distancing these individuals further from venturing outside of their own communities.

I can understand the frustration and hatred that has been prevelant in this thread. I too have had to change my plans as to avoid going downtown...the result of which will take a financial toll on me. Instead of protesting where they should be, they are planning on forming human chains. They won't stop until they get what they demand. Basically, they're holding us hostage....I'll make it personal...they're holding me hostage by restricting where I can go in peace. Emotions without intellect...I say fry them all....but that's fighting on their level as they're not using intellect. I'll take the high road and make other plans to do my best to keep it from taking the financial toll. Until they stop their demands and make requests in the proper method, without disrupting businesses, the general public, etc., they aren't winning my support. I try and avoid reading about what's going on in SL because these idiots, throught their actions, have made it easy to ignore the tragedy that's going in SL. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. It may sound cold but that's what they are doing with their tactics...losing the support they could garner.
 

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This is really going to get farkin ugly fast. 100,000 if AJ heard correctly is a massive number and near impossible to deal with. This could escalate into a military confrontation.
 
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