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None of them are apartheid.

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Neither is Israel, no matter what your dictator council says.


But can you show me a single human rights group or UN statements saying that Hamas' unguided rockets, butchering civilians, and taking civilian hostages has any legitimate justification?
 

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No one can imagine putting a wall around Montreal and controlling how much food, water and power they get for 16 years.
If Montreal's government were continually trying to slaughter civilians in surrounding communities, we sure as shit would.

But thanks for admitting how pathetic your attempts to compare Hamas to Montreal are.
 
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The occupation of Palestine, which includes the West Bank and Gaza is illegal.
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Nope.

Israel rules the West Bank based on their peace treaty with Jordan, the West Bank's previous rulers. You can argue the legitimacy of settlements (many of them likely are illegal) but the actual occupation is perfectly legal.
 

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1947 were partition riots because of the horrendous job the Brits did in dividing India and Pakistan. ...
Do you not think that the longstanding ethnic hatred between Muslims and Hindus played a role in it? The idea of partitioning groups who hated each other is a clumsy tool but it was tried because of the ethnic hatred, not the cause of it.
 
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Nope.

Israel rules the West Bank based on their peace treaty with Jordan, the West Bank's previous rulers. You can argue the legitimacy of settlements (many of them likely are illegal) but the actual occupation is perfectly legal.
Nope.
Every single settlement is illegal.
The occupation is illegal.

You know, I had hopes that you wouldn't go as far as defending genocide.

OCCUPIED PALESTINIAN TERRITORY
Millions of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank struggle to live with dignity under Israeli occupation, facing movement restrictions, Palestinian political divisions and recurrent escalations of hostilities.


Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory illegal: UN rights commission
 

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India has the third largest number of Muslims in the world. Nice try.
And Israel is 20% Arab.

There are a lot of similarities which shouldn't be surprising considering their partitions were at the same time and both have been off and on in a state of war since.

The one big difference with Israel/Palestine is their partition war included a whole bunch of neighbour states.
 

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Nope.
Every single settlement is illegal.
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Sorry but many settlements including in East Jerusalem were Jewish property long before Partition. You keep demanding that Palestinians who fled be allowed to return to their family homes so why do you deny the rights of Jews to return to the properties they held before they were ethnically cleansed by Arab mobs or the Jordanian army? In 1947 (or in 1888), the Old City of Jerusalem (now called East Jerusalem) had a significant Jewish population. Do they not have the same rights you claim for Palestinians (who overwhelmingly don't want to be Israeli?

But since you refer to the UN, their official stance is that borders can only be determined by negotiations, something you openly oppose.
 

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If two groups can't live together in peace, maybe they should live apart in peace.
Sort of like a divorce. When the Brits were there, they held that place together. They knew there would be bloodshed after they left. Just look at the thread "Bangladesh Genocide".
 

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Islam arrived in India in the 7th Century.
That was fast. Islam was only founded in the 7th century.

" Most historians believe that Islam originated in Mecca and Medina at the start of the 7th century CE.

The Muslims and Mongols must have overlapped at some point in time.
 

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Fortunately (or not, depending on your POV), their conquest of Europe (Gates of Vienna) and India (Sikhs) was incomplete. Plus, they were not great sailors so England, the Americas and Australia were safe, although they did manage to get to the Philippines (and are still there). They did get to Australia from Indonesia but the locals caught them cheating in trades and kicked them out.

I'm pretty sure, but I'll look it up, I think the Mongols (from the east) and Muslims (from the west) did overlapped at some point in India.
 

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Terrorist kills 2 Swedes in the name of Muslims, I couldn't figure why they stopped the soccer game. 😡

Brussels 'on highest terror alert' and football fans told to stay in stadium after two shot dead
The Euro 2024 qualifier between Belgium and Sweden was abandoned at half-time following the fatal shooting in central Brussels on Monday night.

Shortly after the shooting, a man who claimed to be the gunman released a video on social media in which he claimed to be a member of Islamic State (IS) and a "fighter for Allah".

He also claimed he had carried out the attack in "revenge in the name of Muslims".

One Belgium newspaper said a witness heard the shooter shout "Allahu Akbar" - "God is great" in Arabic - before the shots were fired.

 

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They were warned and mocked those who warned them. They called them racists. Not unlike those who warn naïve Canadians about what happens when you overload a nation with half a million immigrants annually.

Now they're in for generations of suffering.

We are so screwed. North American elites are so addicted to profit growth that they inadvertently created a culture war which will eventually turn into a civil war.
 

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Terrorist kills 2 Swedes in the name of Muslims, I couldn't figure why they stopped the soccer game. 😡
Brussels 'on highest terror alert' and football fans told to stay in stadium after two shot dead
That's sad but at least that's never going to happen here in Canada. Because Mandrill says so.

We don't have riots and CSIS and our immigration points system protects us.
 
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There were instances of ethnic cleansing, yes. But they were only in the border regions of India and Pakistan where the riots happened, but the migration and population transfer was largely voluntary from all parts of India and Pakistan, and continued over 5 years or so (infact continued to trickle into the 1970s). The partition riots themselves were short lived and stopped soon after independence.
You realize you live in Canada now? You don't need to worry about the wars back "home"
 

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Don't confuse them with facts.

Immigrants into Canada are carefully screened for English / French language ability, academic qualifications and work skills. They assimilate readily. Only a small % of entrants into Canada are refugees and even those are often well qualified.

This is Harry's new podium - Immigrants will destroy Canada.
That used to be the case prior to Turdeau. Not so much now.
 

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That used to be the case prior to Turdeau. Not so much now.
Give me the insider details of how it's changed, Kirk?

I love it when you explain things.
 
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