Sweden's refugee problem
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Few things.
One given some actual cost already provided, which even in the best of times. Budgets running surpluses, god forbid balanced. Would be an enormous strain…
We can safely say, the number is staggering.And it’s not just Toronto proper being crushed. Toronto just happens to have the most things, needed, and that draws people.
Worth the read.
www.thestar.com
Some actual data.
Refugee numbers 2011
www.canada.ca
2019
www.canada.ca
2023 (not quite done)
And let’s not forget these are just the number of those being “caught” at our Swiss cheese border.
One given some actual cost already provided, which even in the best of times. Budgets running surpluses, god forbid balanced. Would be an enormous strain…
We can safely say, the number is staggering.And it’s not just Toronto proper being crushed. Toronto just happens to have the most things, needed, and that draws people.
Worth the read.
GTA regions join outcry over funding to shelter asylum seekers
Durham, York and Peel regions echo budget shortfalls for sheltering newcomers, as Toronto’s own clash with the federal government leaves asylum seekers sleeping on the streets.
Some actual data.
Refugee numbers 2011
Asylum claimants by year – 2011 - 2016 - Canada.ca
Asylum claimants by year – 2011 - 2016
2019
Asylum claimants by year – 2011 - 2016 - Canada.ca
Asylum claimants by year – 2011 - 2016
2023 (not quite done)
And let’s not forget these are just the number of those being “caught” at our Swiss cheese border.
No.
Those are legal point system immigrants. Not refugees.
You literally know nothing about this stuff.
First of all, the border isn't "swiss Cheese". Let me explain.Few things.
One given some actual cost already provided, which even in the best of times. Budgets running surpluses, god forbid balanced. Would be an enormous strain…
We can safely say, the number is staggering.And it’s not just Toronto proper being crushed. Toronto just happens to have the most things, needed, and that draws people.
Worth the read.
GTA regions join outcry over funding to shelter asylum seekers
Durham, York and Peel regions echo budget shortfalls for sheltering newcomers, as Toronto’s own clash with the federal government leaves asylum seekers sleeping on the streets.
Some actual data.
Refugee numbers 2011
Asylum claimants by year – 2011 - 2016 - Canada.ca
Asylum claimants by year – 2011 - 2016
2019
Asylum claimants by year – 2011 - 2016 - Canada.ca
Asylum claimants by year – 2011 - 2016
2023 (not quite done)
And let’s not forget these are just the number of those being “caught” at our Swiss cheese border.
This has got nothing to do with your buddy, Trudeau. There is an international treaty called the UNCHR. Is was sponsored by notorious woketard righties John Diefenbaker, DD Eisenhower and Winston Churchill. It provides that a receiving country MUST LEGALLY provide a hearing into EVERY person who shows up and claims to be persecuted. ALL Canadian, UK and US governments have honoured this since 1953, 70 years ago. So, someone turns up and says "I'm persecuted" and has a story which brings them within the limited legal definition of "persecuted person", they get admitted for the purposes of a hearing.
70 years ago, Britain and France owned most of the Third World and no one thought there would be an asylum claimant who wasn't an intellectual from Eastern Europe. But after 30 or 40 years, the idea of claiming asylum had spread vastly.
And this led to becoming a political football for the anti immigrant Righties.
So the choice is: Does your country officially tell the UN "Fuck it! Let 'em all die and their kids and wives as well!" and take the vast amount of humiliation and international shame that would entail. Or do you keep accepting claimants. NOTE: - The claimants get a hearing and the hearing is rigorous and if they fail, they get kicked out. They don't get to automatically stay.
So the border is "Swiss Cheese" for legal reasons set up 70 years ago by the Right, not because Trudeau wears orange socks.
Personally, Canada has no reason to cancel the UNCHR. It's letting in large #'s of legal immigrants each year and the refugees are just a small increment. Canada is remote and it's difficult to get here. And Canada is an immigrant-friendly country.
Britain is remote and difficult to get to, but the population is more homogenous and resentful. But they should probably just continue the UNCHR.
America is the most exposed because of the long border with Mexico. OTOH, refugee claims and illegal entry into the US is cyclical and could well drop off to a small fraction of its current numbers.
So blaming Biden and Trudeau is just another Rightie horseshit stunt, like blaming the CA legislature's reclassification of petty theft as a misdemeanour for the rise in crime. The righties ferret around for some reason to blame the non rightie government for something that their base dislikes, regardless of how illogical it is.
No.Few things.
One given some actual cost already provided, which even in the best of times. Budgets running surpluses, god forbid balanced. Would be an enormous strain…
We can safely say, the number is staggering.And it’s not just Toronto proper being crushed. Toronto just happens to have the most things, needed, and that draws people.
Worth the read.
GTA regions join outcry over funding to shelter asylum seekers
Durham, York and Peel regions echo budget shortfalls for sheltering newcomers, as Toronto’s own clash with the federal government leaves asylum seekers sleeping on the streets.
Some actual data.
Refugee numbers 2011
Asylum claimants by year – 2011 - 2016 - Canada.ca
Asylum claimants by year – 2011 - 2016
2019
Asylum claimants by year – 2011 - 2016 - Canada.ca
Asylum claimants by year – 2011 - 2016
2023 (not quite done)
And let’s not forget these are just the number of those being “caught” at our Swiss cheese border.
Those are ALL refugee claimants. And few people arrive in Canada and simply disappear. You know nothing about this topic.
Who in the hell let you into canada ? That's the only issue I'm concerned with
I guess I’ll say the same about your knowledge of law enforcement…stats, bill c-75 which you said was provincial jurisdiction etc etc, despite teaching law.
I guess I should also point out, in your post # 42. You linked, the exact same link I did in post #41 and again in post #44. Which in plain English say “Asylum claims”…I have to wonder why your now saying those are refugees and that you know nothing on the topic…
“Swiss Cheese border”
So you’re saying we don’t have a problem with the smuggling of illicit drugs like Fentanyl or guns. Or do you know nothing?
I could also link extra funding to CBSA etc, because according to you it’s not full of holes.
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No, I didn't. I said that prosecutions are provincial.
Asylum claims = refugee claims.
Same thing. Exactly.
There's smuggling of contraband across every border in every country on the planet. What's your definition of "swiss cheese border"??..... 0% smuggling?.... That's not going to happen.
This is also a "refugee" thread. If you want to bring up smuggling contraband, please provide sources and put forward a PoV that I can respond to.
“the police and law enforcement are a provincial constitutional area of power. So blame the Ontario Tories, not Justin. Justin's not involved in any of this.”
Give DoFo a call and go F
“What about the laws? Aren’t they Federal? How is a lawyer not aware of this?”
“I haven't noticed US style crime rates here”
So I guess you’ve missed gangs and guns, Fentanyl and more”
The province administers the criminal law. The province hires the prosecutors
Bail, bill C-75,
Mandatory minimums for firearms offences.
For someone that is quick to throw insults at others…a few threads now your also telling more people they know nothing about topics
you don’t either Mandrill, and I wouldn’t to it respond if not for..
and then you linked the exact same I did, then started telling me I know nothing about the topic..
Give DoFo a call and go F
“What about the laws? Aren’t they Federal? How is a lawyer not aware of this?”
“I haven't noticed US style crime rates here”
So I guess you’ve missed gangs and guns, Fentanyl and more”
The province administers the criminal law. The province hires the prosecutors
Bail, bill C-75,
Mandatory minimums for firearms offences.
For someone that is quick to throw insults at others…a few threads now your also telling more people they know nothing about topics
you don’t either Mandrill, and I wouldn’t to it respond if not for..
and then you linked the exact same I did, then started telling me I know nothing about the topic..
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You speak about point systems and other superficialities. You champion being blind to ethnicity (because you're a naïve wholesome Canadian) when that is actually a recipe for disaster.
The demonstrations going on right now in Toronto are examples of imported culture, values, history, and genetic ties to foreign lands. If Palestinians and Jews comprised the majority populations in Toronto, you'd have war right here in Toronto just like you do in Gaza today.
Critical mass matters.
Your little points system would be irrelevant.
For reference purposes only: Brampton is becoming India, Markham is becoming China. Vancouver has already become China.
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Yeah that all sounds good...but in practice, it's a disaster. I'm sure all those immigrants living on the streets downtown wouldn't disagree with me.
Yeah that also sounds good but in practice, it's a disaster.
Long after the warm/fuzzy feeling our Feds generate by saying they accept refugees fades, reality sets in. No plan and they don't care.
Mission accomplished as far as they're concerned.
Hey cities...go figure out and stop complaining.
Does anyone know how I can get in on this? Seems like a pretty good deal...
Once an individual has been determined to be eligible to make a claim in Canada, as a refugee claimant they may have access, while a decision is pending on their claim, to social assistance, education, health services, emergency housing and legal aid. In addition, most individuals found to be eligible to make a refugee claim can apply for a work permit once they have undergone a medical examination. It does not matter if the claim was made at the border or at an inland office.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...7/03/claiming_asylum_incanadawhathappens.html
Once an individual has been determined to be eligible to make a claim in Canada, as a refugee claimant they may have access, while a decision is pending on their claim, to social assistance, education, health services, emergency housing and legal aid. In addition, most individuals found to be eligible to make a refugee claim can apply for a work permit once they have undergone a medical examination. It does not matter if the claim was made at the border or at an inland office.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...7/03/claiming_asylum_incanadawhathappens.html
On the contrary, the vast majority settle in quickly, learn English and get productive jobs.
Boy, you really hate non whites, don't you?
If immigrant groups really wanted to kill each other in Canada, there would be little or nothing to stop them. Serbs would kill Croats. Ukrainians would kill Russians. Pakistanis would kill Indians. And so on.
But they don't do it. Why's that?.... The point system weeds out those who refuse to assimilate. And they perceive Canada as being a Promised Land and don't want to fuck that up.
If you want to be racist, go find me some real world examples of evil immigrants. Not imaginary examples.
If the vast majority do then we wouldn't have people sleeping in front of immigration offices downtown.
I'm thinking a good experiment would be to get a homeless person to renounce their citizenship and then apply and see if they are better off afterwards.Sure, renounce Canadian citizenship, and then move to a war torn nation, and then come back and claim asylum. But make sure you don't have your rose tinted glasses on, because the social assistance they give you is peanuts. So just be mentally prepared.
It has little to do with any point system, and everything to do with people who understand that Canada offers a high standard of living for them, their families, and their immigrant cohort.
Even the most ardent hater doesn't want to rock the boat for those reasons.
No, I don't hate anyone. Leave the labels out of this please.
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