Sugar Dating Experience

[jamescanned]

What kind of girls do you find on seeking? I have a specific type that makes it easy to filter for via SP/agencies.

(Youthful, often student, pretty face, fun personality who’s generally not around for long)

I figured seeking is a lot more materialistic and I wouldn’t want to deal with the haggling/nagging. Nice to just know the price and pay it

also, any way to get around their selfie verification? After the AM and Tea app hacks I’m extremely reluctant to link any bit of my personal life to this life

 

[RJ11]

Absolutely. The hot girls get time wasters just like SP’s do, and it’s fucking annoying. For them directly obviously, and for those of us guys who are honestly looking for dates/arrangements. It gives us all a bad name.

You have to walk that fine line between moving too quickly (asking to meet after only one or two simple messages can be seen as pushy and a red flag for girls) and letting them know you’re serious.

Right, I present the first call with them as more of a qualification call. I'm saying indirectly, that I want to have a quick chat, make sure you're normal and if I like you, we can set something up.
But I present this indirectly and not super direct, ex. I've met some weird ppl on here! (I'm sure they have as well). Let's setup a quick video chat and if all goes well, we can setup something very soon/asap.
Goal is to pitch yourself as someone that's picky (in a good way with standards) and not someone who will settle for whoever...
On the call, the goal is to have fun, very light small talk and not make it feel like an interview in any way, then close it with an offer if you like them

 

[RJ11]

What kind of girls do you find on seeking? I have a specific type that makes it easy to filter for via SP/agencies.

(Youthful, often student, pretty face, fun personality who’s generally not around for long)

I figured seeking is a lot more materialistic and I wouldn’t want to deal with the haggling/nagging. Nice to just know the price and pay it

also, any way to get around their selfie verification? After the AM and Tea app hacks I’m extremely reluctant to link any bit of my personal life to this life

Bunch of questions here, I'll just tackle them point form:

1. All types of girls on there, some very youthful, very pretty and fun
2. When it comes to price, its a little bit of a game. Some of these girls don't want to be Service Providers, but think of themselves as Sugar Babies. It might look the same to us on the outside, but to them, they want to be treated as people first and not take on that tag. Some of these girls are going to school and working, so they do this on the side...
   Some on there are SP's masquerading as Sugar Babies, so you have to watch out for that too
   I deal with the per date head on - here is my rate per hour, ex $400 and I can cover travel as well, we'll meet in a hotel room
3. I have my pic on the site, but its private. I made sure that pic is no where else and can't be traced to me online. I share it when we first connect and then unshare later on. That way my pic is never out there. But if you're using your phone number, its like sharing your pic...
4. Its a risk you're taking when you go online
5. Its still going to be a grind to meet a girl, but I've had a few I've had ongoing relationships with for a while now (3-4 meetups per year)

 

[billsmafia]

Use Telegram so that you don't need to share your phone number. I see that WhatsApp is introducing user names so you'll be able to do the same thing there eventually.

 

[Daddy2021]

So you have to pay them 5k plus pay for the trip? I thought the trip would be spoiling them.

I know SPs charge for a trip obviously but for some reason thought the SBs would be happy to be treated to a trip as long as they were available to travel.

Like sps, I’m sure they would rather travel with friends or someone they are actually into.

 

[RJ11]

Like sps, I’m sure they would rather travel with friends or someone they are actually into.

Can find those that would be happy if you paid for the trip (no other big fees on top of that) - some of these girls are working minimum wage jobs and can't afford to travel

 

[RJ11]

Use Telegram so that you don't need to share your phone number. I see that WhatsApp is introducing user names so you'll be able to do the same thing there eventually.

That's valid, each girl will have their own comfort level, if you're just looking for a consistent/longer term side piece, you can do it over WhatsApp
If you want more privacy, Telegram can work too

 

[john_smith423]

Can find those that would be happy if you paid for the trip (no other big fees on top of that) - some of these girls are working minimum wage jobs and can't afford to travel

yes from my limited time in the sugar world I certainly got that impression. Especially if you had a semi regular girl that you had seen a few times and had some chemistry with

Taking her on a trip would be "sugar" since she couldn't or wouldn't want to pay for herself to go

 

[alphawire]

The best sex I've ever had is with sugar babies. While SPs are good, there is almost always a detachment to them, and they usually don't get carried away, and I feel they make an effort not to cum or enjoy the proceedings too much. It IS, in the end, a job for them. Sugar babies usually don't know enough to put up that emotional barrier. It's incredible to be fucking a beautiful 20 something year old without a condom, and she's begging for you to cum in her after you've made her orgasm. They'll stick around after the orgasm, they're usually not in any rush, and for $5-700 for three hours or more. But picking through the ugly ones, the crazy ones, the flaky ones, the bots and scam artists is a real pain in the ass. And then you have to not develop strong feelings on your end, otherwise it WILL go sideways on you.

So all that said, I try to see a mix of the two. Toronto has some pretty fucking amazing sugar babies and lately, especially after COVID, I think they're heads and shoulders better than the SPs here. The best SPs here have become so expensive.

Montreal, the sugar baby/SP competition is closer to par. The SBs there ask for less - less money, less headache... But then the hot SPs there are hot and still pretty cheap.

NYC, the sugar babies are so crazy demanding and expensive that even though they're hot, the headache and cost tips it to SPs. 9 out of 10 SBs demand $1000 per meet, and it's hard to make the hot ones budge from that number.

 

[The real G]

Seeking, yes

is it generally safe? And do you try to protect your identity or put it all on the table?

 

[GeeBee]

is it generally safe? And do you try to protect your identity or put it all on the table?

Plow through this thread for more, but here’s what I’ve said on the topic a while ago.

This may all sound paranoid, and most of the time it is. But if a girl is mad at the way it ended, and a bit, nuts, she can make your life miserable. Better safe than sorry, and all doubly important if you’re not single and need to hide this side of your life.

Never tell an SB your real name. Have an alias and stick to it. This can include a well rehearsed back story too.
Never let an SB know where you live. Lie about even the area of town you're from.
Never tell an SB where you work or even your real profession in any detail.
Never share too much about your personal life that could allow her to figure out any of the above.

Protect yourself with information. IME some girls aren’t very careful about their own information so take a mental note whenever you find something out about her. Does she want her family or co-corkers to know she’s a SB? Maybe not. So have some knowledge to throw back and let her know not to fuck with you if shit hits the fan.

 

[jamescanned]

The best sex I've ever had is with sugar babies. While SPs are good, there is almost always a detachment to them, and they usually don't get carried away, and I feel they make an effort not to cum or enjoy the proceedings too much. It IS, in the end, a job for them. Sugar babies usually don't know enough to put up that emotional barrier. It's incredible to be fucking a beautiful 20 something year old without a condom, and she's begging for you to cum in her after you've made her orgasm. They'll stick around after the orgasm, they're usually not in any rush, and for $5-700 for three hours or more. But picking through the ugly ones, the crazy ones, the flaky ones, the bots and scam artists is a real pain in the ass. And then you have to not develop strong feelings on your end, otherwise it WILL go sideways on you.

So all that said, I try to see a mix of the two. Toronto has some pretty fucking amazing sugar babies and lately, especially after COVID, I think they're heads and shoulders better than the SPs here. The best SPs here have become so expensive.

Montreal, the sugar baby/SP competition is closer to par. The SBs there ask for less - less money, less headache... But then the hot SPs there are hot and still pretty cheap.

NYC, the sugar babies are so crazy demanding and expensive that even though they're hot, the headache and cost tips it to SPs. 9 out of 10 SBs demand $1000 per meet, and it's hard to make the hot ones budge from that number.

do you typically do allowance or ppm for your sugar babies? and what do top tier rates look like? I'm thinking $500ppm or $2k allowance for 4-6 meets/month

 

[RJ11]

do you typically do allowance or ppm for your sugar babies? and what do top tier rates look like? I'm thinking $500ppm or $2k allowance for 4-6 meets/month

Stick with PPM, then promote to an allowance if you want?
I've never done allowance myself and feel there is no need to go in that direction unless you want a Full time SB girlfriend.
Allowance is mostly a scam imo. PPM is more clear, we meet, you get paid, simple

 

[400DC]

Banned from Hinge …. wtf !!! Violated terms of service. …. Smh. No explanation. I had the most success on it. 2nd time. Means a hard re$et ….

Got my Hinge ban lifted by sending an email to hello@hinge.co. However I let my burner phone # expire. (Was SpeakOut) Didn’t want to risk using my main phone number linked to a Hinge account that was Previously banned. So I got a new cellphone # with Lucky mobile. $19/month. ( I will just pay again in 3 months to retain the number). eSIM issues to get activated. Took in person to Bell. Paid Hinge for one week. Sure enough, not many females nearby. I’m on the east coast for the season. I’ll try again when back in GTA in fall. Btw, I’ve had to enter my burner cellph # again. In the past, I only entered a # once ; to activate the account

 

[Hypehobby123]

is seeking still the best site or sugardaddymeets? i been on seeking and it doesn’t seem like a lot of profiles on. barely people messaging back.

 

[Dave in Phoenix]

I've never done allowance myself and feel there is no need to go in that direction unless you want a Full time SB girlfriend.
Allowance is mostly a scam imo. PPM is more clear, we meet, you get paid, simple

I thought PPM was not allowed on Seeking etc.? I have avoided it since I have no interest in a high-cost allowance.

 

[Hypehobby123]

is seeking still the best site or sugardaddymeets? i been on seeking and it doesn’t seem like a lot of profiles on. barely people messaging back.

these girls are asking for 800-1k ppm on seeking. this shit is insane.

 

[Lv Wmn]

Ugh, reading this I was considering trying seeking now, maybe not. If there are not many profiles and it is more expensive I am not sure I will try it. I had some success on SD meet but I have also had MASSIVE misses there

In the end probably easier to just stick with SP's

 

[Hypehobby123]

it seems like seeking is flooded by men and a small pool of young women. and because of that they barely message back since it’s like the online dating pool for them. also asking for 800-1k even the fat ones ask for 700 which is insane. not to mention half of toronto on there is trans. this is like seeking trans.

is sugar daddy meets better, I don’t want to pay again but seeking seems so bad rn.

 

[RJ11]

it seems like seeking is flooded by men and a small pool of young women. and because of that they barely message back since it’s like the online dating pool for them. also asking for 800-1k even the fat ones ask for 700 which is insane. not to mention half of toronto on there is trans. this is like seeking trans.

is sugar daddy meets better, I don’t want to pay again but seeking seems so bad rn.

Yeah, its a struggle, but you can find $500 on there.
Technically PPM is against the TOS for Seeking, so when you discuss it, you need to be really careful on the chats.
Many of the experienced SB's try to move you to another social channel soon after to avoid this conflict
It's good to lightly qualify them before you share contact info, so that you don't waste time

Most girls will ask a lot on there, but if you push back and have availability to meet very soon (within 1-3 days), you can negotiate with them. Rates are a bit of game...