Smallpox. This has been pointed out here before, but there is a lot of arguing in bad faith here where basic facts being stated are just plain wrong.
Stadium vaccinations
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Smallpox. This has been pointed out here before, but there is a lot of arguing in bad faith here where basic facts being stated are just plain wrong.
Hmm, interesting. They taped off the parks at one point, couldn't go see the Jays even with the roof open, some jurisdictions even closed the beaches, they cancelled the Ex. And my absolute favourite- they restricted the residential construction, but left the commercial side alone. If only they understood the "reduced capacity" It's seems that, as Dr. Tam said, the science is really evolving. And now,at least the Brits, are going to fill the out of bounds venues to conduct inoculations. I guess that this "progress" makes sense to someone. I hope we are smarter than that, if only from the point of self respect.
Those comparisons have nothing to do with setting up a large central location and organizing it specifically for a socially distanced vaccination program that follows all the health care recommendations. The people lining up will guided and directed to make sure protocols will be closely followed. Nothing at all like going to a Jays game or frolicking barefoot through a park.
You object to every single proposal.
No it will be much worse. Thousands will line up outside of the venue and will be let in 50-100 at a time, they will stand there for hours regardless of the weather, whole families suffering for nothing like cattle. And the Cayenne Pepper guy is not even around to entertain them. The mayor and the other parasites will show up to show solidarity, but they will not stand in line...
Another thread where a guy who doesn't think covid is a problem and doesn't like the idea of a vaccine is all up in arms about how another country plans to implement the vaccine (without bothering to actually look at the plans). I'm sure some 'airhead' on the radio was almost as informative a source as bitchute.
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Possibly because on of the vaccine requires -70C storage? Do you think many clinics or pharmacies have that covered?
Pretty simple solution; scheduled appointments. What other logistical problems do you want me to solve in 30 seconds?
lol what?
And its even more ludicrous that the usual suspects jump up & down congratulating you for claiming Polio has been eradicated (spoiler; it has not)
Here is an article about Polio making a comeback last year (2019)
Have they reduced wild outbreaks with effective vaccines - sure
Is it "gone" - not even close
As a matter of contention; there are (according to CDC) 117 documented cases where the VACCINE ended up GIVING a person who was inoculated Polio
(Because no vaccine is ever fool proof and different humans have different reactions; obv 117 cases is a very small number vs 18 million does)
Polio | Newsroom | Global health| CDC
Polio, or poliomyelitis, is a crippling and potentially deadly infectious disease caused by a virus that spreads from person to person invading the brain and spinal cord which can lead to paralysis. 1 in 200 infections leads to irreversible paralysis. Of those paralyzed, 5% to 10% die when their...
As long as the supply chain is intact I don't care the location. They have apparently earmarked 14 initial locations to start the shots.
The stadiums would be a good choice because they have the electricity capability, movement of people ability(the ramps, entrances and exit direction capability, parking, even cold storage for later gen vaccines) and large open areas as well as ventilation to handle larger crowds. Even information dissemination on site. The locker rooms are good doctor and nurse clean up areas.
And numerous stations easily set up. With social distance capability in the seats.
We are in new territory. Its a viable option coupled with traditional outlets. This isn't one or the other. Give the big ones to the military.
The stadiums would be a good choice because they have the electricity capability, movement of people ability(the ramps, entrances and exit direction capability, parking, even cold storage for later gen vaccines) and large open areas as well as ventilation to handle larger crowds. Even information dissemination on site. The locker rooms are good doctor and nurse clean up areas.
And numerous stations easily set up. With social distance capability in the seats.
We are in new territory. Its a viable option coupled with traditional outlets. This isn't one or the other. Give the big ones to the military.
Ever heard of liquid nitrogen? The hospitals certainly did and fertility clinics among others. The vaccines are not going to be here tomorrow, there's plenty of time to prepare.
Give it to the military? WTF do they know about the medical supply chain? We can't even use the military for the crowd control simply because they don't know how. The vast majority of the pharmacies and clinics are within walking distance of most of the Ontario's population. Are we going to bus them to the central locations? I can just see it based on my military experience: pack'em tight, make'em wait, fuck the inconvenience. Oh, this is going to be good!
Were you aware that a single break in the refrigeration will cause viability issues? Makes far more sense to have more centralised delivery where issues can be resolved without writing off an entire batch.
And I won't even get into the the added cost of training pharmacy workers to work safely with liquid nitrogen.
Yer kidding right? Military is trained to do supply chain. And in fact has already been a part of the planning. And there is a difference between personel transport and this. This is materials and MASH. And yes they train for pandemic.
And again. Try reading. I said ADD IT TO THE CHAIN. As in keep the regular outlets and ADD capacity by using the stadiums. That will add the capacity in cities where the population size warrents it.
Using an empty Dome right by all those condos just makes sense.
Yes, it's called logistics and they're terrible at it, takes them forever to spool up for anything beyond a company size assignment and the Canadian military simply does NOT have the resources, including the manpower, to handle such big project. And if there's a snag in the supply chain who do you want calling Pfizer or Moderna? Some general or a health bureaucracy professional who is doing this on daily basis? Not counting the hospitals, we have over 5000 outlets in Ontario capable of inoculating the WHOLE population within a month or less.The infrastructure, with small tweeks, is already in place. Why borrow trouble?
How absolutely horrible of a picture you paint. Standing in a line to prevent disease and death. What could be more oppressive.
OK. If this is best you can do at attempting to show us how draconian a stadium vaccination program is, you just lost the debate. Standing in a line. And maybe even in bad weather. Hahahaha.
Oh I forgot. And it's going to take three times as much time as using the existing capabilities, shitloads of people will be missed because, after seeing the footage of thousands in a mile long line on the evening news and the overblown stories of woe on Twitter and the need to travel those younger and not at risk will simply say- fuck it, I'll go when the crowds are gone. Hence, the extra time and tens of thousands who will simply never get around to get a shot. It will turn into a drawn out project with the virus persisting and waiting to strike again; especially if the rushed vaccine needs a second shot or a booster or is less effective than advertised. The confidence in the powers that be is already in the dumps and that's why is so important to get it right the first time. The time for debate is over. It is now post time- you can either deliver or not. Judging by the actions of our governments thus far my bet is on "not". I really, really hope that I'm wrong.
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Thank's for your positive outlook but I'm sure the people who are in charge of distribution are qualified to do so and have a good plan in place for most scenarios.
You are inventing anything that you can think of just for the sake of being negative. They can figure the logistics of doing it at a stadium and they can do the same at local pharmacies.
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