SPs becoming FWB

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He did mention they both were in relationships with others and he somewhat told her he's not into her in terms of her being his gf. I guess deep down she wants him as her bf and has a hard time letting go. Maybe mention boundaries about the FWB to her without making light of it. If she still tears up and stuff then you both gotta decide how you want to proceed moving forward. I know for some guys it can be hard to let go especially if you're getting it without a transaction and it's good, but if she's still being emotional about it due to her feelings then you should let go unless she gives her head a shake and moves on. Or like you mentioned before you want it to go back to being transactional then tell her that upfront. End of the day it doesn't really sound like you're playing with her feelings, but I'd have a mature convo with her than making light of it because that comes across a lot different. You should tell her also why you think it won't work out.
 
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The simps are lonely or sex-starved, dating an sp seems like their favorite topic.
A FWB relationship with a SP??????? I thought it would be extremely difficult to get one. Many of the girls in this industry (and outside the industry) love money and I would think rarely offer it for free. I've heard that many girls in this industry dislike men because of the abuse they've experienced.
 

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The simps are lonely or sex-starved, dating an sp seems like their favorite topic.
FWB does not equate to dating or being in a relationship. Nobody is a simp being in a FWB situation. Maybe reread what is being described. Im not chasing anything. I’m not looking for emotional attachment. I can find myself a relationship easily enough. I’m not lacking sex. Seeing SPs is simply a hobby to me. Not interested in focusing my time, efforts, or resources on any one particular SP or handful of SPs. I also don’t look down on her because she happens to be or have been an SP.

Simp is an internet slang term describing someone who shows excessive sympathy and attention toward another person, typically to someone who does not reciprocate the same feelings, in pursuit of affection or a sexual relationship.
 

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A FWB relationship with a SP??????? I thought it would be extremely difficult to get one. Many of the girls in this industry (and outside the industry) love money and I would think rarely offer it for free. I've heard that many girls in this industry dislike men because of the abuse they've experienced.
Some do meet good clients and enjoy the company. I've had 1 or 2 FWB with SPs in which I didn't plan on starting a relationship for other reasons. A few get abused cause the guy in general doesn't know how to treat a woman and/or lacks funds due to keeping a steady job or something. A few women on SD sites have also mentioned how they've been in relationships with guys who don't even take them out for dinner and stuff. Small things like that don't break the bank, but can go a long way.
 

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A FWB relationship with a SP??????? I thought it would be extremely difficult to get one. Many of the girls in this industry (and outside the industry) love money and I would think rarely offer it for free. I've heard that many girls in this industry dislike men because of the abuse they've experienced.
yet many of them would fuck an agency driver at the drop of a hat
 

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Women don't get into these types of situations without thinking that it's going to go further than that. Women who are in this industry, will take things a little bit further with a client because she sees potential in them, but generally they just see a free f*ck and It's unfortunate.

If you aren't equipped to deal with her emotional stuff and the fact that she's a human being, you should leave now and give her the opportunity to find someone who is good for her. She might have gotten into this situation with you for all of the wrong reasons, and and you both don't seem to be on the same page about things.

People like you, make women bitter and angry. They don't understand why men are so callous and uncaring, but it's not that all men are like this... You just kind of find them in all the wrong places. I have met really awesome men through sex work. Incredible men with more emotional intelligence and potential than I ever thought possible.

But for every awesome man, there are twenty incel scumbags that only see women as a hole to park their dick in on occasion.

It's not a great world to navigate, so honestly she might see something in you that's not there and the best thing you can do for her if you care about her at all is to let her find a man who can do more for her. That includes take care of her needs emotionally. Anyone can fuck... Some people can do it better than others and just because you see something you want from her does not mean she should make herself available to you indefinitely.

She's young, she's hot, she could probably have any man she wants, so let her. If her being a human being is too much for you, oh my god stay away from her! You will do more damage to her than can ever be repaired by making her feel like she's too much because you're used to hiring prostitutes.

If you need your interactions to be cold and uncaring and have no connections whatsoever, just stick to that and leave the rest of the female population alone. If she decided to stop seeing you on the clock, it's because she saw something in you, you and wanted more. You saw a free fuck. That's why we always say to never meet clients outside of work. There are like only so many rules we give each other when we first start out and everyone's rules are different but right at the top of everyone's list is

"don't meet people off the clock"

"They're f*cked" , " they're cheaters", "they're liars", "they're just looking for free shit"

She broke rule number two or number three depending on whose list we're talking about for you... and you repay her by putting all her b******* online and saying you don't want to be with her because she's a human being who expects you to support her emotionally because you expect her to be your girlfriend without commitments.

She'll learn. You'll break her heart and someone who really could be excellent to her will get shut down because of what you did to her. She'll be mean and heartbroken for a while, but she'll find the right person. She's just gotta sift through guys like you that are a dime, a dozen.

Bragging about using a woman because you think she's less than, but you still need her for something is really sad and I wish I knew this person so I could tell her to stay away from you. She deserves better

Social circles mean literally nothing.I couldn't be more different from my partner and his friends. They accept me and I accept them. We would have been enemies at different parts of our lives. That's just a cop out, because if you were really honest with yourself, you think that being with her brings down your social status and your value as a man... but real men don't care.

Let her find a real man. You are just going to reinforce to her that men can't be relied on and they can't be trusted, and then she'll get deeper into sex work. She'll never want to leave because everyone around her has just failed her over and over again and disappointed her and the only constant is a fistful of money.
Im not holding her back and she’s not waiting for me to become her bf. She knows I’m not available to commit to her and she has gotten into other relationships of her own (albeit maybe not the best of the bunch). I’ve always treated her well and never like a piece of meat. We shared good chemistry and enjoyed each others company and hence why it was no longer on the clock. Im well aware she has feelings for me, cause she can get dick anytime she wants and be paid for it, but yet she keeps me around. She can end our FWB thing anytime because I’ve told her what I can and can’t give her to satisfy whatever it is that she sees in me. But I would never simp and pay some girl repeatedly a couple hundred dollars per hour to have dinner with me or do an activity or to sit and talk.
Even if she weren’t an SP and say I met her on Tinder instead, I still would not be having her as my gf. There exist certain qualities I’m looking for in a girl beyond beauty and great sex, and she doesn’t check off enough of those boxes. It’s not about social status.
My relations with her is more complex than what I’ve indicated but none of it needs be elaborated on. The point of my post was to see others who entered into similar FWB situation on how they felt afterwards when things change.
 

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yet many of them would fuck an agency driver at the drop of a hat
It's expected. They don't want to fuck the driver, he just expects it. It's exploitation. Everyone is always trying to take advantage of them everywhere they turn. A lot of people refuse to work closely with men in this type of industry. Every man thinks they can get a piece for free.

Every "driver" is a piece of sh*t. I've never met or been contacted by one that wasn't a slime ball.

A lot of them think that's their "tip" for doing a good job. I don't need one but when I did, you couldn't just pay these losers to do their job and f*ck off. They always wanted more. I wouldnt hire any of them because they were gross.

I had a couple cab drivers pull that crap when I worked at a strip club and then at a rub and tug. They want to charge full price and then get a "tip". Told my bosses the one guy made me late because he took the wrong way to take me to a parking lot and expected a bj and the one guy was never a problem again. Never saw the guy after that. He picked me up almost everytime to take me to my job and I never saw him again after that. I heard some things. They had a reputation for that stuff. They also had a reputation for pissing people off and getting beat up.
 
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Im not holding her back and she’s not waiting for me to become her bf. She knows I’m not available to commit to her and she has gotten into other relationships of her own (albeit maybe not the best of the bunch). I’ve always treated her well and never like a piece of meat. We shared good chemistry and enjoyed each others company and hence why it was no longer on the clock. Im well aware she has feelings for me, cause she can get dick anytime she wants and be paid for it, but yet she keeps me around. She can end our FWB thing anytime because I’ve told her what I can and can’t give her to satisfy whatever it is that she sees in me. But I would never simp and pay some girl repeatedly a couple hundred dollars per hour to have dinner with me or do an activity or to sit and talk.
Even if she weren’t an SP and say I met her on Tinder instead, I still would not be having her as my gf. There exist certain qualities I’m looking for in a girl beyond beauty and great sex, and she doesn’t check off enough of those boxes. It’s not about social status.
My relations with her is more complex than what I’ve indicated but none of it needs be elaborated on. The point of my post was to see others who entered into similar FWB situation on how they felt afterwards when things change.
I think you're taking advantage emotionally. You know she wants more. She is incorrectly holding out for more. You are fully aware of this. This is why she drama dumps on you. You should be the bigger person and end it.

I know it is not the advice you want but it is really no different then an escort knowing a client has fallen for her and taking advantage of him financially. Once you are aware that feelings are involved above what the status of the relationship calls for, a responsible person walks away.

Just my two cents. Take it or leave it.
 
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If things have changed and she's shown signs of wanting you as her bf then if she brings it up again be upfront about it without making light of the situation or end it as I said already. This is what my buddy basically dealt with when he had feelings for his FWB. Even though their short relationship ended and they're back to FWB he's slowly looking to meet someone new this year and pushed those feelings to the side because they still get sexual of course. I had a FWB a few years ago where I wanted more and she ended the FWB. Personally when I look back at that I have no intentions now to be with her like that due to similar reasons as yourself most likely and got caught up in the moment. I got no issue going back to FWB, but I respect her decision to just end it and move on even though the sex was fun/wild. If she's still crying over you after you had a solid talk and explain why it wouldn't work out because of your reasons with her then you should move on from her. She'll be hurt and in time get over it. Some people have a hard time understanding why it wouldn't work out with another person cause of certain things and are usually caught up in the moment because of the emotions they are dealing with.

" My relations with her is more complex than what I’ve indicated but none of it needs be elaborated on" It's basically a FWB where now one person wants you as their partner, but doesn't understand you don't meet certain checklist things. I wouldn't play around and still sleep with someone like that unless she understood that we'd never be bf/gf and was fine with just having fun or trying to turn things back to being transactional. More than likely based on how I am I just move forward and end things and if needed ghost the person entirely. You already know deep down you don't desire her like that and since the sex is basically free or very minimal there's no need to keep taking advantage and making someone feel bad unless they understood it and were fine.

If the chick my buddy is back with FWB just made light of the situation and he was being emo often around her at times then that's not good because it's a clear sign she's just using him for sex. He's well aware that they both might not be in a relationship again because she has issues where she doesn't want to commit like that or perhaps to him so he's shrugged it.

There are men on here with a decent bank account who get emotional about a SP, but regardless of their financial status the SP has no desire ever to be with the guy emotionally like that. Most make it clear or end things with the client unless they want to string the person along for more money. YMMV.

" The point of my post was to see others who entered into similar FWB situation on how they felt afterwards when things change. " I tend not to string people along especially when tons of emotion is dropped. I didn't do that with my ex-wife when I knew what I was going to say was going to end things. But then I have come across men who laugh about it and stuff because it's some fun game to them and so forth.
 
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From the get go FWB is a myth. Your benefit is physical intimacy and her benefit is emotional intimacy. That's called a relationship... a shallow one albeit but that's the basis of one.
FWB isn't a myth.
It is, however, a relationship.
All friendships are relationships.

I wouldn't even call it a shallow one, necessarily. (That would depend on the specific relationship. This one might be, we don't really know enough. )
It's just not a romantic one (or not romantic in the way lots of people usually define romantic).
 
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