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sx4play

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For those that have met any SP(s) and the relationship became one of FWB and no longer a transactional exchange, do you prefer it or regret it and wish it could just go back to being transactional?
Personally I love the fact that it cost me practically nothing financially aside from spending on the occasion meal or drinks hanging out, and her letting me do things like film, not requiring protection, and being able to explore all sorts of kinks and having no clock in play. However, I get drawn into unnecessary drama, having a lot of my time wasted, and having disagreements/arguments and a range of emotions in play that is usually reserved for a bf/gf relationship. Every time I see the tears flow from her eyes, im thinking I don’t have the energy to deal with it. As hot as she is and as good as she might be in bed, I would never make her my gf even though she’s poured her heart out to me on many occasions.
Things are no longer simple and efficient. I personally am starting to feel like wanting to go back to how things were during the first transactional exchange. But I don’t think that to be possible now given we’ve been FWB for quite a while now and we share a lot of other history over time.
 

Whiterhino

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I absolutely regret it and did wish it could go back to being transactional. Literally for all the reasons you've mentioned. I've dealt with 3 and all 3 had similar traits. Why 3? Because I'm a genius. I'm not saying it can't work, this is just my experience. All had unresolved trauma and mental illness. My advice to anyone thinking of doing this: keep it professional and don't kill the fantasy.
 

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Been there done that. It was a mistake I intend to never make again.
 

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For those that have met any SP(s) and the relationship became one of FWB and no longer a transactional exchange, do you prefer it or regret it and wish it could just go back to being transactional?
Personally I love the fact that it cost me practically nothing financially aside from spending on the occasion meal or drinks hanging out, and her letting me do things like film, not requiring protection, and being able to explore all sorts of kinks and having no clock in play. However, I get drawn into unnecessary drama, having a lot of my time wasted, and having disagreements/arguments and a range of emotions in play that is usually reserved for a bf/gf relationship. Every time I see the tears flow from her eyes, im thinking I don’t have the energy to deal with it. As hot as she is and as good as she might be in bed, I would never make her my gf even though she’s poured her heart out to me on many occasions.
Things are no longer simple and efficient. I personally am starting to feel like wanting to go back to how things were during the first transactional exchange. But I don’t think that to be possible now given we’ve been FWB for quite a while now and we share a lot of other history over time.
The classic definition of a double-edged sword.
 

Callmerey

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I absolutely regret it and did wish it could go back to being transactional. Literally for all the reasons you've mentioned. I've dealt with 3 and all 3 had similar traits. Why 3? Because I'm a genius. I'm not saying it can't work, this is just my experience. All had unresolved trauma and mental illness. My advice to anyone thinking of doing this: keep it professional and don't kill the fantasy.
I never experienced it but from this post and some experiences from my mates, it definitely is better to keep it monetary ONLY. This job isn’t as easy as a lot of gentlemen in other threads crib about- “there’s nothing a girl does but lie there”. Imagine having so many men getting physical with you and with different demands, girls can’t say no even if they don’t like because that’s their earning, therefore alcohol and dr*gs help them to pass through their sessions.
Which further results in total damage of their mental health.
No matter how good she is in bed, her brain wouldn’t work like normal ones and thus causing men a lot of troubles. But again, not all women in business are alike.
 

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For those that have met any SP(s) and the relationship became one of FWB and no longer a transactional exchange, do you prefer it or regret it and wish it could just go back to being transactional?
Personally I love the fact that it cost me practically nothing financially aside from spending on the occasion meal or drinks hanging out, and her letting me do things like film, not requiring protection, and being able to explore all sorts of kinks and having no clock in play. However, I get drawn into unnecessary drama, having a lot of my time wasted, and having disagreements/arguments and a range of emotions in play that is usually reserved for a bf/gf relationship. Every time I see the tears flow from her eyes, im thinking I don’t have the energy to deal with it. As hot as she is and as good as she might be in bed, I would never make her my gf even though she’s poured her heart out to me on many occasions.
Things are no longer simple and efficient. I personally am starting to feel like wanting to go back to how things were during the first transactional exchange. But I don’t think that to be possible now given we’ve been FWB for quite a while now and we share a lot of other history over time.
another angle is: is she still a SW? if not, it'd be easier to listen to her work related complaints (which seems to be a main feature of modern relationships). Listening to what shape of dick she dealt with during her last shift or reading her reviews is not for the faint of heart.
 
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We both no doubt enjoy the sex, and I’ve always thought the expectations and boundaries of each other had been established, but then every so often out of nowhere there is the outpouring of feelings and then I’m left feeling bad/guilty for having fucked her. I then always try to deflect and make light of the situation by telling her her deep feelings aren’t real and that I’m nothing special, but then the tears start flowing. Or we’d have conflict and I need remind her I’m not her bf. We’ve both had our own relationships during these times so I’m not sure why it can’t be as simple as hanging out, having sex and that’s it. I’m never ever going to shed tears for her even though I may care about her feelings. I’m actually surprised neither of us have end things yet. Her being an SP or former SP isn’t the issue preventing me of from ever wanting to have a real bf/gf relationship with her. Our lifestyles and social circles are simply too different.
 

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We both no doubt enjoy the sex, and I’ve always thought the expectations and boundaries of each other had been established, but then every so often out of nowhere there is the outpouring of feelings and then I’m left feeling bad/guilty for having fucked her. I then always try to deflect and make light of the situation by telling her her deep feelings aren’t real and that I’m nothing special, but then the tears start flowing. Or we’d have conflict and I need remind her I’m not her bf. We’ve both had our own relationships during these times so I’m not sure why it can’t be as simple as hanging out, having sex and that’s it. I’m never ever going to shed tears for her even though I may care about her feelings. I’m actually surprised neither of us have end things yet. Her being an SP or former SP isn’t the issue preventing me of from ever wanting to have a real bf/gf relationship with her. Our lifestyles and social circles are simply too different.
She has turned your FWB situation into a real one without you realizing.
You should be using protection every time or you may be trapped in this relationship for the next 20 years.
 

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So many simps ...
 
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For those that have met any SP(s) and the relationship became one of FWB and no longer a transactional exchange, do you prefer it or regret it and wish it could just go back to being transactional?
Personally I love the fact that it cost me practically nothing financially aside from spending on the occasion meal or drinks hanging out, and her letting me do things like film, not requiring protection, and being able to explore all sorts of kinks and having no clock in play. However, I get drawn into unnecessary drama, having a lot of my time wasted, and having disagreements/arguments and a range of emotions in play that is usually reserved for a bf/gf relationship. Every time I see the tears flow from her eyes, im thinking I don’t have the energy to deal with it. As hot as she is and as good as she might be in bed, I would never make her my gf even though she’s poured her heart out to me on many occasions.
Things are no longer simple and efficient. I personally am starting to feel like wanting to go back to how things were during the first transactional exchange. But I don’t think that to be possible now given we’ve been FWB for quite a while now and we share a lot of other history over time.

Women don't get into these types of situations without thinking that it's going to go further than that. Women who are in this industry, will take things a little bit further with a client because she sees potential in them, but generally they just see a free f*ck and It's unfortunate.

If you aren't equipped to deal with her emotional stuff and the fact that she's a human being, you should leave now and give her the opportunity to find someone who is good for her. She might have gotten into this situation with you for all of the wrong reasons, and and you both don't seem to be on the same page about things.

People like you, make women bitter and angry. They don't understand why men are so callous and uncaring, but it's not that all men are like this... You just kind of find them in all the wrong places. I have met really awesome men through sex work. Incredible men with more emotional intelligence and potential than I ever thought possible.

But for every awesome man, there are twenty incel scumbags that only see women as a hole to park their dick in on occasion.

It's not a great world to navigate, so honestly she might see something in you that's not there and the best thing you can do for her if you care about her at all is to let her find a man who can do more for her. That includes take care of her needs emotionally. Anyone can fuck... Some people can do it better than others and just because you see something you want from her does not mean she should make herself available to you indefinitely.

She's young, she's hot, she could probably have any man she wants, so let her. If her being a human being is too much for you, oh my god stay away from her! You will do more damage to her than can ever be repaired by making her feel like she's too much because you're used to hiring prostitutes.

If you need your interactions to be cold and uncaring and have no connections whatsoever, just stick to that and leave the rest of the female population alone. If she decided to stop seeing you on the clock, it's because she saw something in you, you and wanted more. You saw a free fuck. That's why we always say to never meet clients outside of work. There are like only so many rules we give each other when we first start out and everyone's rules are different but right at the top of everyone's list is

"don't meet people off the clock"

"They're f*cked" , " they're cheaters", "they're liars", "they're just looking for free shit"

She broke rule number two or number three depending on whose list we're talking about for you... and you repay her by putting all her b******* online and saying you don't want to be with her because she's a human being who expects you to support her emotionally because you expect her to be your girlfriend without commitments.

She'll learn. You'll break her heart and someone who really could be excellent to her will get shut down because of what you did to her. She'll be mean and heartbroken for a while, but she'll find the right person. She's just gotta sift through guys like you that are a dime, a dozen.

Bragging about using a woman because you think she's less than, but you still need her for something is really sad and I wish I knew this person so I could tell her to stay away from you. She deserves better

Social circles mean literally nothing.I couldn't be more different from my partner and his friends. They accept me and I accept them. We would have been enemies at different parts of our lives. That's just a cop out, because if you were really honest with yourself, you think that being with her brings down your social status and your value as a man... but real men don't care.

Let her find a real man. You are just going to reinforce to her that men can't be relied on and they can't be trusted, and then she'll get deeper into sex work. She'll never want to leave because everyone around her has just failed her over and over again and disappointed her and the only constant is a fistful of money.
 
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tier3

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From the get go FWB is a myth. Your benefit is physical intimacy and her benefit is emotional intimacy. That's called a relationship... a shallow one albeit but that's the basis of one.

It sounds like you're not up for that so stick to bang and go SP's.
 

probyn

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The simps are lonely or sex-starved, dating an sp seems like their favorite topic.
A FWB relationship with a SP??????? I thought it would be extremely difficult to get one. Many of the girls in this industry (and outside the industry) love money and I would think rarely offer it for free. I've heard that many girls in this industry dislike men because of the abuse they've experienced.
 

sx4play

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The simps are lonely or sex-starved, dating an sp seems like their favorite topic.
FWB does not equate to dating or being in a relationship. Nobody is a simp being in a FWB situation. Maybe reread what is being described. Im not chasing anything. I’m not looking for emotional attachment. I can find myself a relationship easily enough. I’m not lacking sex. Seeing SPs is simply a hobby to me. Not interested in focusing my time, efforts, or resources on any one particular SP or handful of SPs. I also don’t look down on her because she happens to be or have been an SP.

Simp is an internet slang term describing someone who shows excessive sympathy and attention toward another person, typically to someone who does not reciprocate the same feelings, in pursuit of affection or a sexual relationship.
 
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