So who is the bigger douche?
- Thread starter ducttape
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Him..and under highschool laws I'm pretty sure you get to take his girlfriend up to make out point.Make your move.
Perhaps I am getting into semantics here.
I don't think anyone needs to earn respect.
You should be respected whether you are a multi-millionaire or homeless person.
Everyone should learn how to respect and that comes from your upbringing.
As for the original question on this thread, I've always believed in karma, i.e. what goes around comes around.
This kid has probably bullied people and gotten away with it. Your pushback was perhaps karma's way of something coming back at him.
I don't think anyone needs to earn respect.
You should be respected whether you are a multi-millionaire or homeless person.
Everyone should learn how to respect and that comes from your upbringing.
As for the original question on this thread, I've always believed in karma, i.e. what goes around comes around.
This kid has probably bullied people and gotten away with it. Your pushback was perhaps karma's way of something coming back at him.
Yes that is semantics... ok everyone deserves basic respect....to be treated with dignity, until you demonstrate that you dont even deserve that; that shouldnt even have to be said. Anything over and above needs to be earned.Corey said:
Perhaps....or maybe hes screwing up his karmaCorey said:
I did catch that. I sensed the tone. The sarcastic rolling eyes would have helped make your point.Nicole King said:
I also agree with Bob.
The cap thing and wearing pants that are too big has to be the dumbest fashion in the history of humans.
Now to Ducttape.
I have been there, I understand where you are/were. You went too far in stepping on him I have to say, but I get it.
I was in a similar situation. Kid was being an idiot, getting in peoples way. Bumped into him, he eased in my way as he did to several others. I did not step around him as others did, but kept walking almost knocking him down. One of the other kids said something I slowed looked back, no one said anything then. I continued on stopped at the spot to make my next connection and before I knew it I was surrounded by a lot more kids then I thought were even in the whole station. They were accusing me of this and that. I did not even look up from my book. I just said "Keep an eye out for buses please, can't have you getting hit".
Then the threat came from one of them. "I have a gun."
I stared at him, waiting. I said "You are making a mistake".
Stuff happened, one of them said "I am calling the cops", I replied "Only your friend will be arrested if you do". She did not listen.
In the end three of them were arrested and I was a 'victim', at least that is what the cops labeled me.
Say what you want about what you just read and about me.
None of you were there. None of you saw what happened preceeding the start of the whole thing.
There have been other incidents I have been involved with over the years, but I rarely ride the TTC anymore so ... not so much lately.
Definitely the 16 year old was the douche. You just called him on his bluff - that's his fault for trying to start something in the first place.
I used to run a business where I would get teenagers coming into my store and trying to control the environment - acting tough, swearing, giving me intimidating looks, banging on the windows as they leave etc. One time, after repeatedly asking one of the kids to stop harrassing me and stop the banging, he spit on my glass and gave me the finger. I got so mad, I left my store, followed him into the pizza store which is owned by my friend and told my friend not to serve him. I then pulled his id off of him (he was holding his wallet in his hand as he ordered in front of the pizza counter), asked my friend to write it down and followed up by having my landlord issue him a tresspass notice demanding that he no longer visit the entire plaza including any and all stores - not the bank, not the doctor's office, not the pizza store, not my store - none of them. If he did, he would be tresspassing and would be charged as such.
His mother, after finding out about this, came to my store and chewed me out for doing this to her son, claiming that he has to visit the chriopractor often for his bad back. I didn't back down, I insisted I gave him multiple opportunities to be respectful toward me, and since he refused and challenged me to often, I would not allow my landlord to lift the tresspass letter. Contractually, my landlord and I had agreed that I was entitled to 'quiet enjoment' of my premises, and since this bastard interefered with my quiet enjoyment, he was banned. Best thing I ever did.
I used to run a business where I would get teenagers coming into my store and trying to control the environment - acting tough, swearing, giving me intimidating looks, banging on the windows as they leave etc. One time, after repeatedly asking one of the kids to stop harrassing me and stop the banging, he spit on my glass and gave me the finger. I got so mad, I left my store, followed him into the pizza store which is owned by my friend and told my friend not to serve him. I then pulled his id off of him (he was holding his wallet in his hand as he ordered in front of the pizza counter), asked my friend to write it down and followed up by having my landlord issue him a tresspass notice demanding that he no longer visit the entire plaza including any and all stores - not the bank, not the doctor's office, not the pizza store, not my store - none of them. If he did, he would be tresspassing and would be charged as such.
His mother, after finding out about this, came to my store and chewed me out for doing this to her son, claiming that he has to visit the chriopractor often for his bad back. I didn't back down, I insisted I gave him multiple opportunities to be respectful toward me, and since he refused and challenged me to often, I would not allow my landlord to lift the tresspass letter. Contractually, my landlord and I had agreed that I was entitled to 'quiet enjoment' of my premises, and since this bastard interefered with my quiet enjoyment, he was banned. Best thing I ever did.
Im going to say he is. And here is why. I will go with he was wearing one of those c audigier hardy shirts...$165 on a good day. Now, loaded or not its still a tshirt that (as i found out) wears just like a $30 t shirt and washes like one too. Its douces like us that buy these overpriced pieces of crap that put the douce in douceyducttape said:
Reminds me of a comedian I saw years ago (forget his name). He was talking about expensive basketball shoes. He said for $200, his basketballs shoes should be able to play basketball without him. He'll just drive the shoes to the gym, come back later, and ask the shoes, "Did we win?"dirkstoned said:
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NEITHER of you are a douche.
Him because - since when is it illegal to stare?
And you - because that would be unfair to douches everywhere.
Him because - since when is it illegal to stare?
And you - because that would be unfair to douches everywhere.
Well so far you saved 165Bob Loblaw said:$165 for a t-shirt?! I've seen those shirts and thought nothing of them... $165?! I'm in the wrong business.
The kid was what, 15-16 years old?
I don't think it's really fair to call him a douche. Lets think back to when we were all that age. We all wanted to look stylish and cool. Unfortunately, Ed Hardy, Affliction, hats tilted to one side etc. is just fashionable these days. Blame Kfed.
Chances are, this kid will grow out of the Ed Hardy crap and move on with his life.
Like everyone else has said, you picked a fight with a 15 year old kid.
I don't think it's really fair to call him a douche. Lets think back to when we were all that age. We all wanted to look stylish and cool. Unfortunately, Ed Hardy, Affliction, hats tilted to one side etc. is just fashionable these days. Blame Kfed.
Chances are, this kid will grow out of the Ed Hardy crap and move on with his life.
Like everyone else has said, you picked a fight with a 15 year old kid.
When he tried to stare me down, I would have started laughing hysterically, others he intimidated would join in, and when everyone is laughing at him......he wets his pants. THEN you call him douche....cause it looked like he did. Douche that is.
Conversely, if he became aggressive with you for laughing at him....then you drop him, and you have witnesses.
I remember being THAT kid when I was his age. But instead of the "wanna be a rapper" wear, I had open laced Kodiaks, a Scarborough dinner jacket over an Iron Maiden baseball t-shirt and Levis'. But I always respected my elders, which kids don't anymore.
Conversely, if he became aggressive with you for laughing at him....then you drop him, and you have witnesses.
I remember being THAT kid when I was his age. But instead of the "wanna be a rapper" wear, I had open laced Kodiaks, a Scarborough dinner jacket over an Iron Maiden baseball t-shirt and Levis'. But I always respected my elders, which kids don't anymore.
Your story reminds me of the time I was riding southbound on a Weston 89 bus towards Eglinton. That was my first mistake, I know, but at the time it was my regular route to work.Ironhead said:
Young man-boy in the back had an old fashioned boombox, no headphones, blaring racist violent lyrics peppered with profanity. He boarded near Lawrence and travelled to Eglinton same time as me every morning. It was not late at night but rather just coming up to 8am. Kids, families, and generally a G-rated crowd at that hour.
I and others had asked him to shut it off on different days. He mostly sneered. I ignored it on other days, but one morning, I had missed my coffee or not gotten enough sleep so I had no tolerance. I advised him that I was about to treat his actions as a gesture of agression and advise the operator of our vehicle that I feel unsafe and threatened. It would be our operators duty to pull his vehicle over to the side of the road, put it out of service, and call the authorities. I asked the kid if he wanted to join me in being responsible for bringing this ride to an end for more than 60 people who just want to go to work and school. He did not respond. I told him at the count of three I would not change my mind. He did not back down on the count of 3. I reported the incident. The music went off but it was too late an I was not withdrawing my report. The driver agreed; he was equally sick of this kid and was grateful to see a passenger support him in ridding his route of this nuisance. The announcement was made as the vehicle pulled over. The crowd reacted to both of us. The kid swore a blue streak at me as he hurredly got off the bus before his regular stop. I withdrew the complaint and we resumed our ride offense free. Issue never came up on that ride ever again. Thankfully six months later circumstances (relocated to better area, got a car) enabled me to avoid that route.
I don't think ducttape's actions were inappropriate or disproportionate. He just did what he felt he had to do just like the youth.
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Ok mister 5 post I'll bite, most people know I am playing the Bop Saturday so you and I can discuss it there!!dirkstoned said:
I fucking love when people call me out, gives me a chance to prove it lmao!!!!!!
Who the fuck are you btw so I know who I am kicking the shit out of?
