Ok lets see, first I did not say it was a warmer temperature in Germany I said the climate is generally milder due to the closeness of the various bodies of water The location of the Solar farm is not in Southern Ontario it is in Northern Ontario hense the problems with the weather and sunlight availability.
Well, I was hoping an intelligent discussion might happen here, but I guess I was wrong. I don't know if you are being disingenuous, or if you are just plain stupid.
I really don't know where to start with this.
Germany, for the most part Germany has a climate that is warmer than Ontario. The location of the Solar farm is not in Southern Ontario it is in Northern Ontario hense the problems with the weather and sunlight availability.
You did say the climate is warmer, and you are right. But solar power generation has nothing to do temperature, as I already said. It has everything to do with the strength of the sun’s rays, and that is related to latitude, not temperature or climate.
Do you even know where Napanee is? You said it is Northern Ontario. I challenged you and said it is not in Northern Ontario. I never said it is in Northern Ontario or in Southern Ontario. In fact it is in Eastern Ontario. There is no problem with weather or sunlight availability there.
The NApanee plant is at present the only Solar farm in Canada, the question of cost was entirly based on the generated cost of teh electricity with no consideration for teh capital costs of the facility, my point was that the electricity is 800% more expensive than the electricity from hydro, nuclear and yes even coal power.
If you are not taking into consideration the capital cost of the facility, then it is not a realistic calculation of the cost of the electricity.
Let’s compare 2 hypothetical power sources. One needs $500 billion of infrastructure to generate and transport it to the consumer. The other is generated and transported to the consumer for $5 million. But apart from these capital costs, the cost to generate the power are equal. Do you see the folly of not using capital costs to calculate the true cost of power? How do you think Ontario Hydro ended out hundreds of billions of dollars in debt…constructing nuclear power plants.
Your belkife in the green movement is entirly up to you and the theories of climate change should at present not for the basis for bankrupting the econoimy of the western hemisphere.
Ah, I see now. This is about climate change and how, in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, you refuse to believe that it exists. I can see now that I have little hope in convincing you of anything.
As far as user pay goes what is the difference between day care and hydro should the user not pay for what thy use.,
Well, if you don’t see the difference, I think you are truly beyond hope. First, kindergarten is not just a babysitting service, it is part of the public education system. That is why they have teachers. And society benefits from having an educated public. Just like society benefits from other social services that are available for free. But electricity is a product that is consumed and as such, we are charged by the kw/h.
Lastly neither oddsox nor myself have said anything about coal power generation. You brought that up for whatever reason, our comments were based entirly on the cost of the electricity .
You both may like the idea of burning lots of coal for energy and if that is the case, we will have to disagree with each other. Without getting into the specifics of McGuinty policies, beyond what I have quoted above, which I admit I don't know much about, I do like the idea of getting more green and believe that we as a society must move in that direction.
Perhaps you both have some ideas about how to solve the energy needs of Ontario. Doing nothing is not a solution.
You are clearly against green energy. Ontario gets its energy from basically 3 sources – nuclear, hydro and coal. So to meet future energy needs, we need to consider those sources as well as green sources and conservation measures. I asked for your ideas on how to meet energy needs, but rather than address that important question, you decided to go off on some ridiculous tangent about how Napanee is in northern Ontario and how you calculate energy costs without considering capitals costs of construction, all the while misquoting both yourself and me. I have to conclude that it is not possible to have a rational discussion about energy with you.
