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Smitherman for mayor

buckwheat1

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He has officially put his name into the hat for next Novembers Mayoral contest in Toronto.
 

AJstar

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Are U insane? He would be a disaster. Worse than Miller. He is another 'do what I say or SHUTUP' kind of guy. I guess people are forgetting already the E-Health fiasco and how it wasted 100's of millions,it was his. His current environment and energy bill/work is going to be worse.
 

landscaper

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teh energy ministry and the Premier just announce to great fanfair over the weekend, the openingh of teh first solar farm in canada, In Napanee to be exact.

They announced to great fanfair and trumpets that they were paying the vendor the amount of


42 cents per kilowatt hour, my current billing amount is 5.6 cents per kilowatt hour.

These folks assume everybody will be fine paying 800% more for power because it is green solar power.

BAck to Furious George as Mayor, is somebody who you really want planning and implimenting your financial future in the city of toronto? The guy is a congenital idiot.( wqith my apologies to congenital idiots everywhere)

I just saw a poll Tory at 42% Smitherman @ 25% of confirmed voters for what its worth
 

danmand

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teh energy ministry and the Premier just announce to great fanfair over the weekend, the openingh of teh first solar farm in canada, In Napanee to be exact.

They announced to great fanfair and trumpets that they were paying the vendor the amount of


42 cents per kilowatt hour, my current billing amount is 5.6 cents per kilowatt hour.

These folks assume everybody will be fine paying 800% more for power because it is green solar power.

BAck to Furious George as Mayor, is somebody who you really want planning and implimenting your financial future in the city of toronto? The guy is a congenital idiot.( wqith my apologies to congenital idiots everywhere)

I just saw a poll Tory at 42% Smitherman @ 25% of confirmed voters for what its worth
Tory fersure will win this time.:)
 

buckwheat1

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MAYOR!!! - We need to downsize the size of counsel, it doesn't matter who wins the counsel will never work in this city because of the way it's set up. I'd say 10 counsellers max and one mayor. Lets let as many people who want to run for counsel run and the top 10 win doesn't matter which part of the city they are from.

John Tory what would he do any different???
 

landscaper

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there has been talk of cutting council to 22 members to mirror the federal/provincial ridings . That in my opinion is what should have been done during amalgamation, the councilors got their way because they claimed they had a lot more work to do that an MP or MPP . The fact that half og them wouyld out of work had nothing to do with it.

John Tory would bring a new attitude to council, whether it is a good or bad attitude would remain to be seen. At the very least I think he would reign in some of the more profligate spenders
 
MAYOR!!! - We need to downsize the size of counsel, it doesn't matter who wins the counsel will never work in this city because of the way it's set up. I'd say 10 counsellers max and one mayor. Lets let as many people who want to run for counsel run and the top 10 win doesn't matter which part of the city they are from.

John Tory what would he do any different???
Why stop there... Lets downsize the amount of politicians in Provincial and Federal politics as well! Say 1 member for every 250,000 citizens provincially and I member for every 500,000 citizens federally- that would give you 66 members for the country and about 45 for the province. Oh, and they have to count all the "None of the Aboves" too! If the none-of-the above votes are the highest in any particular riding- ALL those politicians are tossed and new ones will be selected.

And then I woke up and had breakfast! :rolleyes:
 

nottyboi

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teh energy ministry and the Premier just announce to great fanfair over the weekend, the openingh of teh first solar farm in canada, In Napanee to be exact.

They announced to great fanfair and trumpets that they were paying the vendor the amount of


42 cents per kilowatt hour, my current billing amount is 5.6 cents per kilowatt hour.

These folks assume everybody will be fine paying 800% more for power because it is green solar power.

BAck to Furious George as Mayor, is somebody who you really want planning and implimenting your financial future in the city of toronto? The guy is a congenital idiot.( wqith my apologies to congenital idiots everywhere)

I just saw a poll Tory at 42% Smitherman @ 25% of confirmed voters for what its worth

I don't think you understand the economics of micro solar, firstly, Solar production peaks when demand peaks, secondly, micro solar plants produce power where it is needed, so it alleviates the strain on the grid. Thirdly, the government does not have to invest billions plants/equipment/transmission capacity, finally, it is not polluting.
 

landscaper

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I don't think you understand the economics of micro solar, firstly, Solar production peaks when demand peaks, secondly, micro solar plants produce power where it is needed, so it alleviates the strain on the grid. Thirdly, the government does not have to invest billions plants/equipment/transmission capacity, finally, it is not polluting.
I understand the economics of mirco solar quite well thank you, a 100+ acre solar site is by no bodies estimation micro, a micro site is somebody putting solar panels on a roof of a house or a factory. This site is a for profit energy generation site that in theory will provide power into teh grid be it local or provincial. The fact that the power is 800% more than what is being paid now is a serious problem in and of itself who pays the premium?

Solar power does not infact peak when demand peaks, demand in Ontarion peaks between about 4PM and 7PM . Have you looked out the window during that period lately? Oh you can't because its dark out there.
The location of Canada is also a problem from the point of view of light duration and intensity, from October through April the length of daylight and the intensity of the light will not allow the solar panels to produce anything resembling peak amounts, In fact I would be surprised if anything higher than 30% efficiency during daylight hours is possible.

There is also the snow issue, how do you clear the panels so that they can operate? We are talking about 100+ acres of solar panels, a herd of labourers with brooms?

Government does not have to invest billions into the plant? No they don't they just have to pay hugely inflated rates for the output .

It is clean power from the standpoint of there are no exhaust products produced from the actually generation, are ther pollutants generated from the production of the solar panels and the solar farm itself? I have not researched the actuall production methods lately .

Put basically at the present time solar power can produce supplimentary power for the grid during daylight hours . The cost of that power when it is available is exhorbitant.
 

great bear

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Do not discount Smitherman. This boy is a very savvy politician. If Tory does run it is guaranteed he will find some way to mess up in a major way during the election. Cheers GB
 

landscaper

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Do not discount Smitherman. This boy is a very savvy politician. If Tory does run it is guaranteed he will find some way to mess up in a major way during the election. Cheers GB
Can't argue with either statement, I keep thanking anybody who will listen that I live North of Toronto.

Smitherman almost looks like he is getting clear of the provincal liberals before the next election, I am thinking they are going to get spanked in a big way.

Tory would have some constraints on him with the way Toronto council is set up it might contain some of his more interesting moments.
 

great bear

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Can't argue with either statement, I keep thanking anybody who will listen that I live North of Toronto.

Smitherman almost looks like he is getting clear of the provincal liberals before the next election, I am thinking they are going to get spanked in a big way.

Tory would have some constraints on him with the way Toronto council is set up it might contain some of his more interesting moments.
If I had a vote in Toronto it would probably go to Smitherman or the young lad who chairs the TTC. Politically I am much closer to Tory than either of the others, but with the make up of the city, I think Smitherman would be more in touch with the population. Regardless it will be an interesting election. cheers GB
 

hinz

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Other than his social liberal policies I do not trust him when it comes to fiscal prudence.

John Tory, on the other hand seems to have strategy to fix the financial mess Toronto is in but he is too conversative when it comes to social issue. Still I suspect he's going to be the guy who talk tough but don't act like one.
 

panther1763

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NOOOOOOOOO not Smitherman, holy shit we have has enough of spend spen spend we need someone to act responsable please
 
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