Since when the PSE included BBFS?

[IRIS]

I post my ad usually as a GFE - PSE provider But in the past few months I always got questions about BBFS service. When I ask why you asked this, the clients said: PSE must included BBFS. They got this info online. So I checked this out and that's true. It's very sad because BBFS was never part of PSE. So right now I canceled the PSE from my ad because it's cause misunderstanding. So guys what do you think about PSE service? What is included and what is not?

 

[S416905]

I post my ad usually as a GFE - PSE provider But in the past few months I always got questions about BBFS service. When I ask why you asked this, the clients said: PSE must included BBFS. They got this info online. So I checked this out and that's true. It's very sad because BBFS was never part of PSE. So right now I canceled the PSE from my ad because it's cause misunderstanding. So guys what do you think about PSE service? What is included and what is not?

Is there an online governing body that defines what PSE is? Lol

 

[thumper18474]

That's fucked up!

 

[kherg007]

To be left alone this Industry must police itself. The moment some epidemic sti shoots through the feds will swoop in and shut it down. Thus everyone -clients and ladies - bears responsibility to keep this industry safe and viable..
Ps and pse does NOT include bbfs. Never has. Tell those clients those people online are bbfsing their minds.

 

[chuckster]

First off, nice tit.

PSE does not imply BBFS. Nobody says that, any guy telling you that is full of it. PSE normally implies BBBJ / CIM (spit), maybe COF, maybe Greek.

 

[DesRicardo]

If I was just starting and didn't know any better, I'd think PSE would mean everything is on the table and negotiable. Like a real porn.

 

[shack]

First off, nice tit.

PSE does not imply BBFS. Nobody says that, any guy telling you that is full of it. PSE normally implies BBBJ / CIM (spit), maybe COF, maybe Greek.

Historically PSE does not include BBFS but it definitely includes BBBJ, DFK, DATY and CFS at minimum. At the lady's discretion it may include CIM, DATO, rimming, fingers and probably a few others.

 

[IRIS]

I just arguing with a guy and he send me this link as an example:

Urban Dictionary: PSE

PSE: An acronym meaning "Porn Star Experience" often used by escorts, providers, and other sex workers in their menus. PSE is used to imply or specify that a...

www.urbandictionary.com

And the whole net is full this false information

 

[DesRicardo]

I just arguing with a guy and he send me this link as an example:

Urban Dictionary: PSE

PSE: An acronym meaning "Porn Star Experience" often used by escorts, providers, and other sex workers in their menus. PSE is used to imply or specify that a...

www.urbandictionary.com

And the whole net is full this false information

Tell him Urban Dictionary is not a real dictionary.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

Tell him Urban Dictionary is not a real dictionary.

Agree to disagree. The Urban Dictionary explains a lot of language that is commonly spoken but would not show up in the Oxford Dictionary.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

I just arguing with a guy and he send me this link as an example:

Urban Dictionary: PSE

PSE: An acronym meaning "Porn Star Experience" often used by escorts, providers, and other sex workers in their menus. PSE is used to imply or specify that a...

www.urbandictionary.com

And the whole net is full this false information

Even in this link, there are conflicting definitions of PSE.

The first definition includes this paragraph:
“This is uniquely different from the acronym GFE which means "Girl Friend Experience," as GFE implies a different collection of acts. PSE and GFE may be used together to indicate a wider availability of acts. For instance, GFE includes kissing, while PSE does not, and PSE includes bare sex without a condom, but GFE does not.”


However, the next definition states this:
“This could mean deep throating, role playing, or crazy positions. It does NOT mean sex without a condom.”

So…even the Urban Dictionary seems confused about this.

Personally, I had never understood PSE to include bbfs. In fact, my understanding has always been that no reputable escort would ever offer bbfs and that guys who ask for it are blacklisted instantly.

It seems, though, that these days it is not unusual to see providers on LeoList openly advertising bbfs. I recall not so long ago that it would be considered slanderous to suggest any escort provided bbfs; now I see escorts openly advertising it. In my view, at the risk of sounding judgmental, these tend to be the sketchy, lower end escorts. I can’t imagine an agency advertising this on its web site; they would lose all of their clients.

 

[DesRicardo]

Agree to disagree. The Urban Dictionary explains a lot of language that is commonly spoken but would not show up in the Oxford Dictionary.

Doesn't make it a real dictionary.

But please excuse me. I've just created a new word, Kablahblah, that needs to be submitted.

 

[superman12]

I post my ad usually as a GFE - PSE provider But in the past few months I always got questions about BBFS service. When I ask why you asked this, the clients said: PSE must included BBFS. They got this info online. So I checked this out and that's true. It's very sad because BBFS was never part of PSE. So right now I canceled the PSE from my ad because it's cause misunderstanding. So guys what do you think about PSE service? What is included and what is not?

I don't think BBFS should ever be offered no matter what. Doesn't matter what kind of session it is. It's funny that you mentioned this because in the past 6 months I have had 2 different escorts offer me BBFS without me even asking while we were mid fuck. It's something I never partake in anyways but I found it surprising it was offered because it was never that common before. I guess it is becoming more common in pse type sessions which is kind of scary.

 

[MindJohn]

I post my ad usually as a GFE - PSE provider But in the past few months I always got questions about BBFS service. When I ask why you asked this, the clients said: PSE must included BBFS.

Uh, tell us, did these clients sound a good deal like your earliest high-school boyfriends ?????

 

[Jenesis]

There has been a rise in BBFS because of how slow some ladies are finding it out there right now. Some struggled to get through slow season and haven’t seen it pick yet. Not realizing it is not going to “pick up” for a while. We are in a really bad economic state right now. It is not going back to pre-COVID days any time soon.

I just arguing with a guy and he send me this link as an example:

Urban Dictionary: PSE

PSE: An acronym meaning "Porn Star Experience" often used by escorts, providers, and other sex workers in their menus. PSE is used to imply or specify that a...

www.urbandictionary.com

And the whole net is full this false information

Well I guess PSE is coming out of my ads.

 

[StephenHKing]

You don’t need to feel pressured to do anything you don’t want to do. If guys are looking at your ads and they say PSE, just say no BBFS.

But it’s not an expectation any experienced hobbyist would have.

I’ve never understood the PSE/GFE distinction - some of the sluttiest girls I know also make great girlfriends.

 

[thumper18474]

There may be an increase in the blatant advertising of BBFS..But I would like to think it's more of a tag line and nothing more for "fishing" for clients!...as Jen says..for some times are tough...so getting them in the door is half the battle.
Now I'm not naive enough to think None of them ever would cus I'm sure that money talks and with the current economic climate...some will have a price ..for their safety

 

[LoneSearcher]

I post my ad usually as a GFE - PSE provider But in the past few months I always got questions about BBFS service. When I ask why you asked this, the clients said: PSE must included BBFS. They got this info online. So I checked this out and that's true. It's very sad because BBFS was never part of PSE. So right now I canceled the PSE from my ad because it's cause misunderstanding. So guys what do you think about PSE service? What is included and what is not?

No-covered for both our safeties and peace of mind ....however even if I were your real BF(a man can dream!) many times a condom does need to be used mostly for birth control.

 

[massman]

PSE has never meant BBFS, no matter what urban dictionary says. It is very concerning that more and more guys are seeking this service, and more and more girls are advertising. Same goes for PS (bare) that is increasingly sought after in the MP world. As a guy who was a young man when the HIV epidemic was raging, just before highly effective treatment became widely available it still shocks me that people seek these services when they engage in this hobby. Used to be BBFS could equal DWS (death wish service), but our collective memory of that time fades I guess, and “creampie” porn has fetishized it as well. We need to remember tho that while HIV is treatable, it’s still forever, and you are at risk unless you are on PREP. Still, number of other STIs are possible, rates of gonorrhea, syphillis and chlamydia are skyrocketing, and increasingly there are cases of highly drug resistant forms of these diseases.

 

[Jenesis]

PSE has never meant BBFS, no matter what urban dictionary says. It is very concerning that more and more guys are seeking this service, and more and more girls are advertising. Same goes for PS (bare) that is increasingly sought after in the MP world. As a guy who was a young man when the HIV epidemic was raging, just before highly effective treatment became widely available it still shocks me that people seek these services when they engage in this hobby. Used to be BBFS could equal DWS (death wish service), but our collective memory of that time fades I guess, and “creampie” porn has fetishized it as well. We need to remember tho that while HIV is treatable, it’s still forever, and you are at risk unless you are on PREP. Still, number of other STIs are possible, rates of gonorrhea, syphillis and chlamydia are skyrocketing, and increasingly there are cases of highly drug resistant forms of these diseases.

I have guys ask for BBFS CIP. Like first contact. I don’t know if they are trolls or serious. I never reply back but yeah - that is mind boggling to me if they are actually getting this service. Both for the guy and the girl.