Should priests marry
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As I see it catholicism interprets the bible a certain way with its own specific rules. These rules are not made by God or society or anybody else other than the catholic church. Unless the church changes its position the priest who wants to get married can not do it in the catholic church.
But, he has all the opportunity to start his own faith and allow priests to get married.
That is not to say that I agree with the catholic church on this issue, but it does not make sense for the church to change its faith based on public opinion polls.
But, he has all the opportunity to start his own faith and allow priests to get married.
That is not to say that I agree with the catholic church on this issue, but it does not make sense for the church to change its faith based on public opinion polls.
red said:
I thought so . Since when can 2 women or 2 men have children , it's against the rules of nature and it's unnatural. You can't have children without a man. You are twisting the laws of nature to suit yourself.
1. I am a man, my friend.- it was a joke.booboobear said:
2. against the rules of nature - so what? we use technology to fly airplanes, drive cars, live in houses, cook our food, wear clothes- none of these have anything to do with the laws of nature. we allow infertile couples to have children through the same means- should we stop them?
Guess what my friend , neither are you .Meister said:
All I said was men's rules can be changed. This is irrefutable and not subject to your opinion.
red said:
OK OK I can take a joke . You are right we do use technology but driving cars is not against the laws of nature nor is a couple man and women having a baby.
2 women having a baby is against nature however. Here's another question should men be able to have children , they could probably implant a womb.
Exactly, that's why neither you or me get to change the rules of the catholic church.booboobear said:
But, by all means get your placards ready and demonstrate outside the Vatican. May be the pope will change his mind, just for you. And, unlike the last pope, this one is from the old school. So, good luck.
Meister said:
I don't think you get the point of this forum , it's to express opinions.
I know you or I can't change the rules nor do I expect to .
To suggest the pope would change " just for me " is silly.
Like I said it's an opinion poll.
No red, we use the rules of nature to make all this technology work.red said:
Physics..is simple compared to Biology.
Why would nature "create" a homosexual drive? I really don't understand.
we may use the laws of physics to do these things, but how is that difference from using the technology we currently have to allow a lesbian couple to have a child. it is not against the laws of nature- it is just against your personal beliefs to which I say- too bad- it is none of your business.
There is a lot of things that make no sense in the catholic church like praying to Mary, exorcism, anointing the sick with oils, etc...booboobear said:
But, they are not likely to change anytime soon. However, they may look at changing things if their membership falls drastically. But so far they seem to be gaining members in Asia and Africa.
Meister said:
Oh I agree the church is not likely to change soon. I don't know if they are gaining in Africa but I do know church attendance is down in North America.
A lot of people say they are Catholic but few attend church. I think in that respect the Muslims are more true to their religion
Red: Creating life (or ending life) is just a wee bit different than flying in an air-plane don't you think.
There are significantly more serious ramifications.
Do I think it is "unatural" for two men or women to have children? Yes.
Do I think it's evil?:No
Do I think there is a better relationship than same sex, for bringing up kids?: yes
Are some hetro couples evil to their kids?:Yes
Are hetro's perfect?:NO
Is the hetro relationship natural?:Yes.
There are significantly more serious ramifications.
Do I think it is "unatural" for two men or women to have children? Yes.
Do I think it's evil?:No
Do I think there is a better relationship than same sex, for bringing up kids?: yes
Are some hetro couples evil to their kids?:Yes
Are hetro's perfect?:NO
Is the hetro relationship natural?:Yes.
Of course it's everyone's business who should be allowed to raise children! That's why there are laws protecting children, Children's Aid Societies, and laws governing adoption. Society has regulated who can raise children long before same sex marriage, same-sex adoption, and same-sex surrogate procreation were issues. Therefore, while the effectiveness of existing laws in serving the best interests of children is questionable, we're well past debating whether society in general should have any say at all.red said:
Many people question the wisdom of permitting same-sex couples to intentionally conceive (through some means) and parent children. Yes, some hetero parents are poor parents. We already have laws to deal with that. Yes, some same-sex parents may do a better job at parenting than some hetero parents, but who cares? Does anyone seriously take the position that children are equally well off without the influence of either a father (man) or mother (woman) to guide them in the ways of the world? I couldn't take someone seriously who so fundamentally misunderstands the different and important influences that a father and mother each have on a child.
Rather, much of this crusade, and the push for so-called "equality" for gays has more to do with gays seeking affirmation for their sexual orientation by seeking to appear more like hetero couples. However, that day is never coming. People will never see gay couples as "the same" as hetero couples. That doesn't mean there's anything "wrong" with being gay. Neither a rock nor an apple are evil, but they certainly aren't the same thing!
Gay rights activists have achieved many things. Being gay is socially acceptable. It is no bar to employment (in fact gays have higher average incomes than society generally). Gay sexuality is highly visible in all media. It's practically a crime in this country to say anything derogatory about gay sexuality or the gay community. Why isn't this enough? The answer may be that nothing is ever enough for people who need constant external confirmation about whether they are "normal".
Lets have a parade! Lets have a gay mayor! Lets have a gay prime minister! Let's make half the movies and television shows about the gay community. But lets not experiment with children.
its not an experiment. should we take all the children away from single parents because the kids don't have the influence of a father or mother? at the end of the day- their choice to have or not have children is their business and not yours or mine.Bud Plug said:
