"white supremacist" now joins the list of abused and overused words that no longer have any weight like 'rape' and 'Nazi'.
Seth Rogen calls US Senator Ted Cruz a "white supremacist fascist" in Twitter exchange
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Hard disagree with you there. Trump is a committed racist. It's been one of his most consistent character traits since the 80s. He isn't a "let's go back to slavery" racist, but he is a racist.
I think people are underestimating how much #2 is involved. His fame was a big X-factor here that gave him an outreach of a different sort than normal. The "outisder" helps but lots of people run as outsiders with various levels of credibility on it. He launched his political career by attacking Obama more than Hillary. Sure he joined in on those shots, but what brought him from C-lister to A-lister (or maybe to B+ lister until he ran again in 2016) was the attacks on Obama and the Birther nonsense. Remember than by 2012 he was being courted for endorsements by primary candidates.
I think Flynn has probably missed his window and I don't think Flynn has the "TV star power" chops.
Trump's appeal was he was going to hurt the people who you wanted to see get hurt and the whole "he pisses off the libs and gets away with it" appeal. (Q is its own special subset of things.)
There are a core of angry conservatives that are gettable to a Hawley, but that group that didn't turn out for anything else - that is just totally alienated but wanted some outside guy to come and punish everyone who ever said no to you -- I can't see any current politician getting them. Maybe someone can work a Bernie Sanders approach and be in government for years but always be "the outsider working for you" but it is hard to do. I think it needs to be another celebrity to pull in that group of people who don't normally vote. (Or someone very new to Congress who either gets thrown out quickly or makes sure to cast themselves as at odds the whole time. They need to be very good with media and become a star quickly, though.
Not yet, but those investigations are in the early stages.
Are you sure there won't be any charges of sedition in any of the 170 investigations?
are you SURE there will be AND convictions?
most of the charges are trespass/restricted area I can see a lot of those being dropped they will go after the most visible guys like the guy in the skins.
maybe I really don't think much will come of this might be a few serious charges (not counting violence) tons will get dropped like the trespass/restricted area especially for those with no records. the longer it takes the less the media and public follow it
I realize it wasn’t a criminal charge...thanks for that...it certainly looks like there is going to be a trial
Trump was impeached for “incitement of insurrection”, is that close enough?
Are you sure that matters?
If the DA can get solid convictions and adequate sentences from charges that are easy to prove - i.e. restricted area where they just brandish the video footage and the defence immediately collapses and bargains a deal - why would they charge something complicated and time-consuming to prove like sedition?
Then they get the violent assholes with video footage of them assaulting cops and that brings immediate plea deals with long jail terms.
The only issue might be if they want to charge some of the Proud Boys leaders or Ali Alexander w something that relates to organizing. But there are probably offences such as "organizing a riot" or some such that cover it.
The next step up is charging some of the Senators - like Cruz or Hawley - or congress members with sedition. But the DA's going to think long and hard before that jump. Those folks are going to have very sharp lawyers and BIG defence budgets. The difference between crushing hundreds of budgies and hunting a few large and fierce mammoths.
NOT a criminal trial I doubt a trial will happen the evidence used to impeach is far short of what's needed for a criminal trial
then PROVE a coup happened show me criminal charges AND convictions as of now you cant
Not sure how you can post on TERB and be otherwise cut off from the rest of the world.
I guess I can only show you an impeachment charge of “incitement of insurrection” which you don’t accept...not that me or anyone else on the planet cares.
I didn't realize you now speak for everyone and decide what they get to care about
I clearly stated criminal charges and convictions I understand conviction could be year(s) away if charges are laid
Do you watch TV. It was clearly an attempt. But it failed. An attempt, even if unsuccessful, is still a crime.
