Seeing SP off the clock

toughb

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Well simply put, when a client pays your standard fee of $250 to a $1,000 an hour you can afford to go pay for a good meal with the company of your choice. Hardly worth spending time with a client for the cost of a meal etc.

However keep in mind that each situation is unique. If a woman actually enjoys being with a man the rules are different. Unfortunately part of being an SP is making all clients think they are interesting and fun to be with, so it can be hard for a client to know how much an SP likes to be with him.

So true!
 

hangover13

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In the end I think it is up to the female and client but I had one regular for around a year and we ended up going out and doing things off the clock lots of time to the point I had to call it off as I started getting feels for her.
 

yolosohobby

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i have had dinner or drinks, ranging from the local place in my 'hood to some of Toronto's finest restos at least 20 times w sp's and never once paid for that time with her. There are other ladies though who i am certain will not do that despite the number of times you book them for a session. Every situation IS unique, but i caution the OP to be clear about this issue.

My personal rule is "if her clothes are on, the clock is off."
 

Tapcon

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You wouldn't ask a lawyer to come over for dinner and drinks to give legal advice instead of paying for their time or any other professional or trades person. The fee is for the ladies time no matter what transpires during the alloted time. An escort is just that, a professional providing a service, be it a beautiful woman on your arm in public or a lover behind closed doors. Much like any relationship it is her choice to persue an 'off the clock' atmosphere if she chooses.
 

Prophet

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There's nothing wrong with either party offering to spend more time, or the client suggesting he'd be willing to pay for an "after-work" meal. You can take your accountant to dinner too, and not talk shop.

The debate here probably hinges on whether client and escort are communicating very clearly about both what is intended and what they will tolerate regarding time spent.
 

swanky

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I wasn't so much concerned about what SP should or shouldn't do. It's 100% her prerogative to go off clock or not.

I just wanted to hear your stories about how such situations panned out for you.

In one instance a semi regular asked me whether I was hungry after our session. I said yes and for the first time I saw her dressed in civilian clothes to go out. She was decked out in stripper heels and garish looking dress that I was mildly embarrassed to be seen with her in public. People were giving me disapproving looks of "are you her pimp". Actually I was initially embarrassed but I actually started enjoy the the attention. It's funny how when you're with someone slightly slutty or skanky, other men give both a look of disdain and a look of jealousy.
 

thumper18474

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I have just a couple of comments ...

First of all... a night out with a CLIENT is NOT getting away from the business .... its called WORK. A night out with friends or family is getting away from the business. Second ... if ladies would "love a night out" they go and enjoy "a nice dinner, a show or whatever". When a client is also a friend they may share a meal off the clock but it's a rare occasion indeed for ladies who include 'dinner date' rates as part of their services.
He may have been a previous client...but if it developed into a friendship...then NO....it wouldn't be work...its 2 friends going to dinner......whether business is discussed or not its just dinner
as I said...if she suggested it then its off the clock...a dinner / night out with between 2 people who connected.
 

Ridgeman08

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Interesting topic...

I've had "off the clock" dinners with a number of my "dates", but as one SP eluded to earlier, when you are out for dinner, (in such a situation anyway), you are not a "client"... you are an interesting person who IS a "client" that also happens to be a "friend" out with another "friend" who also happens to be an SP.

Confused yet? LoL

Regardless, one should always establish the parameters of the "off clock/ on clock" intricacies ahead of time.
 

Don Draper

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You wouldn't ask a lawyer to come over for dinner and drinks to give legal advice instead of paying for their time or any other professional or trades person. The fee is for the ladies time no matter what transpires during the alloted time. An escort is just that, a professional providing a service, be it a beautiful woman on your arm in public or a lover behind closed doors. Much like any relationship it is her choice to persue an 'off the clock' atmosphere if she chooses.

That's absurd!

A lawyer or trades person does not provide an Act of Intimacy with you. You don't see them naked, you don't taste their saliva, you don't look forward to the next time they will be in bed with you moaning and grasping at your body.

You are not involved in an Act of Physical Intimacy with them, albeit temporary.

If you think a female human being who works as an escort only serves to supply a service, then you have a lot to learn about women everywhere.

 

Petzel

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I occasionally took a regular out for dinner a few times and she never charged for her time then. She said that if a client was generous enough to invite her for dinner, she didn't feel she should also charge him for her time at dinner. Sadly she's been retired for many years now.
 

Ms.FemmeFatale

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It is simple guys, accept it but don't expect it, and if you really want companionship for a "date" like event, then find a civie or request an SP and her time based on what you do come with as fair.
 

testind

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It is simple guys, accept it but don't expect it, and if you really want companionship for a "date" like event, then find a civie or request and SP and her time based on what you do come with as fair.
Sex and companionship are totally different things. Ms Fatale is totally right. Last year a woman came in to my shop wanting some maintenance done to her car. I finished with her car and she ended up asking me to go out for dinner and drinks. People get hungry and do need liquids, of course I said yes. However, I did advise her that my $70 rate per our which I work on cars, will be continued during our night out.

Sounds reasonable??
 

Ms.FemmeFatale

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Sex and companionship are totally different things. Ms Fatale is totally right. Last year a woman came in to my shop wanting some maintenance done to her car. I finished with her car and she ended up asking me to go out for dinner and drinks. People get hungry and do need liquids, of course I said yes. However, I did advise her that my $70 rate per our which I work on cars, will be continued during our night out.

Sounds reasonable??

So then go ahead and call up an SP for a date like event off the clock. No one is stopping you from trying.

If the lady who's car you worked on was happy to pay for hourly rate for dinner, then I am happy for you. Just like I am happy for the ladies who can charge for dinner date companionship as well. I don't discriminate. All the power to ya!

I just hope that this negative undertone is not because of jealous or competitiveness with who's wallet gets fatter after. Cat fights are so unbecoming of a gentleman.
 

testind

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What a ridiculous analogy.

If you are selling companionship as part of your services then nobody should expect companionship for free. Why is that so hard for people to grasp?

How about this:

I take spanish lessons and pay my spanish teacher $100 per hour. After class I suggest we go for a drink and a bite to eat, but during the meal I decide to continue the spanish lesson, I bring the cue cards and we are doing spanish while we eat. Should that spanish teacher be compensated for that time? or because I decided to offer a meal they should teach me spanish for free? hmmmm......
I get a bbbj from a bbbj service provider and pay $100 for the hour. After our session I suggest we go for a drink and a bite to eat, but during the meal, I whip my dick out and want the bbbj provider to continue providing me a bbbj at the dinner table. Should the Bbbj provider be compensated for another bbbj? Yes, because she is providing me with a bbbj which I usually pay for. Now if I didn't whip my dick out at the dinner table, and instead we had some dinner, drinks, and then dropped her off, should she charge $100 for each hour of time spend having dinner and drinks? Hmmmmm
 

testind

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So then go ahead and call up an SP for a date like event off the clock. No one is stopping you from trying.

If the lady who's car you worked on was happy to pay for hourly rate for dinner, then I am happy for you. Just like I am happy for the ladies who can charge for dinner date companionship as well. I don't discriminate. All the power to ya!

I just hope that this negative undertone is not because of jealous or competitiveness with who's wallet gets fatter after. Cat fights are so unbecoming of a gentleman.
Lol honestly femme, At the end of the day, if an sp advertises companionship for time itself and has clients wanting this service, all the power to them. Id love to get wine and dined and get paid all at the same time!! :)
 
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Social time with a new guest can happen spur of the moment but it's a rarity in my world. It only ever happens on occasion when I'm touring, bored out of my mind and have been living on carrots and yogurt so a hot meal sounds good. Retainer guests are the ones I choose to socialize with because in my view, they have earned the right to have privileges as with any customer appreciation program. They are constant contributors to my well being and I value their business as well as their friendship. I'm open to their invitations and I will also invite them out. If the business agreement comes off the table, so too does the social time. Guests who are infrequent do not get free social time ever because I have a life outside of my work that demands just about every minute of my spare time. I'm not bitchy about saying no and I'm not offended when asked but it's unrealistic to expect a provider to accept an invitation for off the clock social time without some foundation in place between the two of you besides the session you just had. I'm sure if you ask enough providers tho you will find one that is hungry enough to say yes to going out to dinner...

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