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That's not terrorism, as a soldier was targeted.
And its 6 months old.
Police. Under the GC they are listed as civilians.

And you've been claiming Hamas gave up on terror for more than a year so 6 months proves you are a disgusting apologist for Palestinian terror.

But of course you are looking for an excuse to not criticize Hamas or Palestinian terrorism.
 

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That doesn't describe terrorism anywhere there.
Keep burying your head in the sand.

Hamas' reconciliation deal includes the promise that they won't use terrorism.
https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/1.817272

That would align them more with the IRA and Mandela, both of whom moved away from terrorism, if they hold to it.
Yes. If they stick to it then they will become 'former terrorists' but you claimed they already moved away from terrorism. Obviously the Unity deal shows you are wrong.
 

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Your reasonable expectations are not the same as Palestinian's reasonable expectations.....
A Palestinian state based on the '67 lines with 1:1 swaps. The Old City and holy sites under international control. A land corridor to Gaza. Some descendants of refugees could become Israeli and compensation to all other descendants. Sounds like exactly what rational people support.

The thing that the Palestinians rejected was Israel calling itself a Jewish state (as the Palestinians call themselves an Islamic one).

And Abbas admits it was an offer and that he walked away from it without even a counter-proposal.
 

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Keep burying your head in the sand.


Yes. If they stick to it then they will become 'former terrorists' but you claimed they already moved away from terrorism. Obviously the Unity deal shows you are wrong.
You couldn't find any evidence of terrorism, the closest was an attack on a soldier in the summer that wasn't terrorism.
They are moving away from terrorism and now you're stuck defending apartheid.
 

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In the article you posted it listed them as soldiers.
So that's not terrorism.
There is no such thing as "Border Patrol Soldiers". Blame the Hebrew speaker who mis-translated the sentence.

Two articles that accurately describe them as Border Police.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/polic...ed-shooting-and-stabbing-attack-in-jerusalem/
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...-wounded-following-attack-in-Jerusalem-497070


Your condemnation?


Oh that's right. You won't. You'll probably say that 4 moths ago means was in the past and doesn't deserve to be talked about - unless you can find something to criticize Israel for.
 

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You couldn't find any evidence of terrorism, the closest was an attack on a soldier in the summer that wasn't terrorism.
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Even if it wasn't terrorism, I thought you were in favour of peace. Of course in your mind you can be pro-peace and still support attacks on Israel.
 

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Even if it wasn't terrorism, I thought you were in favour of peace. Of course in your mind you can be pro-peace and still support attacks on Israel.
I am in favour of peace, but Palestinians living under an illegal occupation have a right to resist.
Peace would be better.
 

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And as always, your failed arguments always revert to becoming a disgusting liar about other people's views.
Just because you deny that Israel is apartheid doesn't mean you aren't defending apartheid.
Its like when Bud Plug was attempting to argue that a neo-nazi terrorist wasn't guilty of murder.
 

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I am in favour of peace, but Palestinians living under an illegal occupation have a right to resist.
Peace would be better.
And I see you have yet to comment on Hamas attacking police, civilians under the GC. What a surprise.

Similarly it is no surprise that while claiming to support peace you want Palestinians to attack Israelis instead of actually accepting the concept of a permanent peace.
 

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And I see you have yet to comment on Hamas attacking police, civilians under the GC. What a surprise.

Similarly it is no surprise that while claiming to support peace you want Palestinians to attack Israelis instead of actually accepting the concept of a permanent peace.
As noted, your article said they were soldiers, not civilians.
And how pathetic is it that the best 'arguments' you can come up with are lies about me 'wanting' attacks to happen.
You really are starting to sound worse the Galsegin or FAST on this subject.
In other threads you come out to defend against racism, but then as soon as it moves to Israel your the largest bigot on the board.

Just give them equal rights or a country.
End apartheid.
Stop the racism.
 

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As noted, your article said they were soldiers, not civilians....
Oh what a surprise. You refuse to criticize Hamas even when it is clear they attack civilians as defined by the Geneva Conventions.

How about a simple question. Do you think Hamas attacks like the murder of police officers benefits the Palestinian people in any way?
 

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Just give them equal rights or a country.....
And the elitist racist comes out again thinking he knows better than what the Palestinians and Israelis want.

And you might want to complain about Palestinian factions like Hamas and Fatah's armed wing that refuse the concept of a permanent peace instead of Israel which formally endorses a Two state epace.
 

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Oh what a surprise. You refuse to criticize Hamas even when it is clear they attack civilians as defined by the Geneva Conventions.

How about a simple question. Do you think Hamas attacks like the murder of police officers benefits the Palestinian people in any way?
I don't think violence has done either side any good, which is why I call out the side who kills more and is illegally occupying the other side first.
How about the same question, given that Israel regularly kills nearly 10 times as many people, do you think those dead Palestinians have done Israel any good?
http://www.btselem.org/statistics/fatalities/after-cast-lead/by-date-of-event
(and look at those stats, since 2009 it looks like Israel has killed about 70-80 times as many as Palestinians have killed.)

You are backing the ones who kill more civilians.
 

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And the elitist racist comes out again thinking he knows better than what the Palestinians and Israelis want.
And you think they want apartheid?
Hey, equal rights works in Canada, its worth a try supporting Canadian values, you should try it.
 

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I don't think violence has done either side any good, ....
Yet you keep claiming it is the right of Palestinians to commit violence.

If you actually cared for human rights you would be criticizing the major factions of Palestinians who absolutely reject permanent peace, who promote violence as a solution to problems, and who abuse their own people far worse than Israel does.
 
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