Just more nonsense.
On this board one can never criticize Palestinians enough to make you happy.
And yet you don't care that the Likud charter calls for taking over all of the land themselves.
Typical of you.
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On this board one can never criticize Palestinians enough to make you happy.
Typical of you.
p.s. Do you know what quotation marks mean?That was the 'journalist' who wrote the article who stated that, not Hamas.
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And the Hamas spokesman is the same guy who planned the kidnapping of the three Israeli kids which helped spark the last conflict in Gaza.
Never is not enough. You have never criticized Hamas for using terrorism. Instead you pretend they stopped. You have never criticized Fatah for celebrating terrorists or paying them salaries when convicted or killed in the act. You have never criticized the 46% of Palestinians who support terrorism against Israelis. Instead you just pretend the Palestinians are incapable of moral political protest.Just more nonsense.
On this board one can never criticize Palestinians enough to make you happy.
Hamas is a designated terrorist entity. Of course I criticize them more than an Israeli political party that acts in a peaceful and lawful manner.
Frankfooter is a known apologist for Islamic terrorism....Never is not enough. You have never criticized Hamas for using terrorism. Instead you pretend they stopped. You have never criticized Fatah for celebrating terrorists or paying them salaries when convicted or killed in the act. You have never criticized the 46% of Palestinians who support terrorism against Israelis. Instead you just pretend the Palestinians are incapable of moral political protest.
Hamas is a designated terrorist entity. Of course I criticize them more than an Israeli political party that acts in a peaceful and lawful manner.
Ok, you claim Hamas is a terrorist entity that has not stopped.Never is not enough. You have never criticized Hamas for using terrorism. Instead you pretend they stopped. You have never criticized Fatah for celebrating terrorists or paying them salaries when convicted or killed in the act. You have never criticized the 46% of Palestinians who support terrorism against Israelis. Instead you just pretend the Palestinians are incapable of moral political protest.
Hamas is a designated terrorist entity. Of course I criticize them more than an Israeli political party that acts in a peaceful and lawful manner.
Lets do a little check on who is attacking who right now.
If you find some acts of terrorism by Hamas, and some that don't just involve talking about terrorism, I'll condemn them.
And in the same vein, I'll list some Israeli war crimes and we'll see if you'll condemn them.
Fair?
'Cuz my argument remains that Israel is now the worse war criminal.
Why not start with the last weeks worth of events.
http://pchrgaza.org/en/?p=96115 Palestinian civilians, including 4 children, were wounded in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
Israeli forces conducted 68 incursions into Palestinian communities in the West Bank and a limited one into the Gaza Strip.
46 civilians, including 7 children and a woman, were arrested in the West Bank.
3 of them were arrested in Jerusalem and its suburbs.
Israeli forces continue to target the Gaza Strip border areas.
A watchtower belonging to the Palestinian armed groups sustained damage, but no casualties were reported.
Israeli authorities continue to make a Jewish majority in occupied East Jerusalem.
Hundreds of settlers raided al-Aqsa Mosque and performed their prayers in its yards to mark the Jewish Sukkot Holiday.
Israeli forces continue settlement activities in the West Bank
Settlers attacked a civilian car on Nablus-Ramallah Road and seriously wounded one of its passengers.
A girl was wounded in Hebron in a similar attack.
Israeli forces continued to target the Palestinian fishermen in the Gaza Strip Sea.
4 Shooting incidents were documented against Palestinian fishing boats in the northern Gaza Strip. No casualties were reported.
Israeli forces turned the West Bank into cantons and continued to impose the illegal closure on the Gaza Strip for the 10th
Dozens of temporary checkpoints were established in the West Bank and others were re-established to obstruct the movement of Palestinian civilians.
8 Palestinian civilians, including 2 children, were arrested at the checkpoints in the West Bank.
Summary
Israeli violations of international law and international humanitarian law in the oPt continued during the reporting period (05 – 11 October 2017).
Now, I challenge you to find worse acts of terrorism from Hamas over the last week.
Seems like Palestinians are being shafted on a daily basis, of course basketcase and friends will turn a blind eye. He will try to change to a completely irrelevant subject within the next post, that’s how basketcase and friends roll.... like a bunch lowlivesOk, you claim Hamas is a terrorist entity that has not stopped.
Lets do a little check on who is attacking who right now.
If you find some acts of terrorism by Hamas, and some that don't just involve talking about terrorism, I'll condemn them.
And in the same vein, I'll list some Israeli war crimes and we'll see if you'll condemn them.
Fair?
'Cuz my argument remains that Israel is now the worse war criminal.
Why not start with the last weeks worth of events.
http://pchrgaza.org/en/?p=9611
Now, I challenge you to find worse acts of terrorism from Hamas over the last week.
The unity deal requires Hamas to stop attacks from the West Bank but we'll have to see if they actually do it.Ok, you claim Hamas is a terrorist entity that has not stopped.
Hamas has had several cells busted in the West Bank in the past few months and openly endorsed other attacks. The guy negotiating the unity deal for them was the same guy who organized the kidnapping and burning of three Israeli kids which helped spark the most recent conflict in Gaza.
And check them out below; they are terrorists.
https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/ntnl-scrt/cntr-trrrsm/lstd-ntts/crrnt-lstd-ntts-en.aspx group.
The EU agrees.
But specific details?
Hamas launched a rocket at Israel on Oct. 10.
Hamas claimed credit for the attack on police in Jerusalem on June 16
And it is pathetic that you have no issue with Hamas praise for and promotion of attacks targeting civilians such as the June 22 murder of a family at dinner that was praised by Hamas.
Sadly that blind eye applies to people like you and franky who pretend to support the Palestinians. They are abused far worse by their own leaders than by Israel.Seems like Palestinians are being shafted on a daily basis,...
Right, couldn't find any actual terrorism.The unity deal requires Hamas to stop attacks from the West Bank but we'll have to see if they actually do it.
Hamas has had several cells busted in the West Bank in the past few months and openly endorsed other attacks. The guy negotiating the unity deal for them was the same guy who organized the kidnapping and burning of three Israeli kids which helped spark the most recent conflict in Gaza.
Where are the links?Hamas launched a rocket at Israel on Oct. 10.
Hamas claimed credit for the attack on police in Jerusalem on June 16
And can you confirm that Hamas did those acts? They have been stopping most rocket attacks from Gaza, not launching them.
I couldn't find anything about it in the news.
But even with this one example period, Israel committed way more acts of war crimes then Hamas, it appears.
Abbas is an idiot who has done major harm to Palestinians, true.Sadly that blind eye applies to people like you and franky who pretend to support the Palestinians. They are abused far worse by their own leaders than by Israel.
But he isn't responsible for the occupation or apartheid.
Except for the details I listed below?Right, couldn't find any actual terrorism....
You go to disgusting depths to avoid criticizing the massive wrongs of the Palestinian leadership or the 46% of Palestinians who support terrorism.
Sure he is (both an idiot and responsible). When he walked away from Olmert's offer in 2008, he could have ended the occupation. But you are right in a way since Hamas and many in Abbas' own party refuse the concept of peace with Israel and define the 'occupation' as starting in 1948. They are also the guys with the guns and bombs who fight by attacking civilians.Abbas is an idiot who has done major harm to Palestinians, true.
But he isn't responsible for the occupation or apartheid.
And Hamas is far worse that Abbas. They are just as corrupt, restrict human rights to a greater extent, and their refusal to accept a permanent peace is the ultimate stumbling block to a Palestinian state.
Nonsense.Sure he is (both an idiot and responsible). When he walked away from Olmert's offer in 2008, he could have ended the occupation. But you are right in a way since Hamas and many in Abbas' own party refuse the concept of peace with Israel and define the 'occupation' as starting in 1948. They are also the guys with the guns and bombs who fight by attacking civilians.
And Hamas is far worse that Abbas. They are just as corrupt, restrict human rights to a greater extent, and their refusal to accept a permanent peace is the ultimate stumbling block to a Palestinian state.
There has never been a legit two state peace offer from Israel to refuse.
Even when the Palestine Papers showed Abbas offering up everything Israel asked, they still refused.
The situation is almost entirely the fault of the side with the massive army and nukes pointing at the other side that is walled in the world's largest prison. Only they could end it.
Shall I buy you a little history book?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Biggest-Prison-Earth-History-Occupation/dp/1851685871
Your intentional ignorance of Palestinian terrorism is quite sickening. They have this thing called goodle but I'm sure you will claim that the Israeli press is lying because you don't like what they report.What details?
The June attack
Hamas, however, rejected ISIS' attempt to claim credit for the attack, with spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri saying the credit claim "is an attempt to muddle the map. The attack was carried out by two Palestinians belonging to the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and a Hamas member."
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4976905,00.html
But I'm sure you won't criticize Hamas for their CONTINUED use of terror just like you refuse to criticize them openly praising and calling for more terror attacks.
And again ostrich man makes an appearance and adds lies to the mix.Nonsense.
There has never been a legit two state peace offer from Israel to refuse....
Even the Palestine Papers documented Olmert's offer which offered everything the Palestinians could reasonable expect including a land corridor to Gaza but Abbas refused because he knew that even his own party would refuse to accept peace alongside a Jewish Israel.
Abbas didn't even bother to see the offer as a starting point to negotiation but simply walked away without even a counter-offer.
And worth adding that Hamas' new charter continues to endorse the use of terrorism.
The resistance against the occupation, with all different tool or instruments, is a legal right legalized by religious, traditional or international law, and especially the armed resistance that is the strategic option to protect our principles and get back our rights.
Hamas refuses to hinder the resistance or its weapons, and confirms the right of our people to develop resistance tools and equipments. Hamas confirms that the resistance leadership can decide the level of resistance and can utilize a variety of the different tools and way to administrate the conflict, without compromising the resistance.
http://mondoweiss.net/2017/04/translated-leaked-charter/
The resistance against the occupation, with all different tool or instruments, is a legal right legalized by religious, traditional or international law, and especially the armed resistance that is the strategic option to protect our principles and get back our rights.
Hamas refuses to hinder the resistance or its weapons, and confirms the right of our people to develop resistance tools and equipments. Hamas confirms that the resistance leadership can decide the level of resistance and can utilize a variety of the different tools and way to administrate the conflict, without compromising the resistance.
http://mondoweiss.net/2017/04/translated-leaked-charter/
That's not terrorism, as a soldier was targeted.Your intentional ignorance of Palestinian terrorism is quite sickening. They have this thing called goodle but I'm sure you will claim that the Israeli press is lying because you don't like what they report.
The June attack
Hamas, however, rejected ISIS' attempt to claim credit for the attack, with spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri saying the credit claim "is an attempt to muddle the map. The attack was carried out by two Palestinians belonging to the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and a Hamas member."
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4976905,00.html
But I'm sure you won't criticize Hamas for their CONTINUED use of terror just like you refuse to criticize them openly praising and calling for more terror attacks.
And its 6 months old.
That doesn't describe terrorism anywhere there.And worth adding that Hamas' new charter continues to endorse the use of terrorism.
The resistance against the occupation, with all different tool or instruments, is a legal right legalized by religious, traditional or international law, and especially the armed resistance that is the strategic option to protect our principles and get back our rights.
Hamas refuses to hinder the resistance or its weapons, and confirms the right of our people to develop resistance tools and equipments. Hamas confirms that the resistance leadership can decide the level of resistance and can utilize a variety of the different tools and way to administrate the conflict, without compromising the resistance.
http://mondoweiss.net/2017/04/translated-leaked-charter/
Hamas' reconciliation deal includes the promise that they won't use terrorism.
https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/1.817272
That would align them more with the IRA and Mandela, both of whom moved away from terrorism, if they hold to it.
Your reasonable expectations are not the same as Palestinian's reasonable expectations.And again ostrich man makes an appearance and adds lies to the mix.
Even the Palestine Papers documented Olmert's offer which offered everything the Palestinians could reasonable expect including a land corridor to Gaza but Abbas refused because he knew that even his own party would refuse to accept peace alongside a Jewish Israel.
Abbas didn't even bother to see the offer as a starting point to negotiation but simply walked away without even a counter-offer.
Nor was there a legit offer there to be signed.
The occupying power has not produced a written peace offer with a legit two state solution.
