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GPIDEAL

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I am not making it out to be a scandal, it is the aftermath of a scandal.

And Ford is not "all patients", he is a candidate for mayor. While I agree the clinic isn't going to release a statement, the Star is quite right to make public how Ford had behaved.
He still is a patient, regardless of his VIP status. Without full details and only reporting on the undignified aspects of his treatment from someone being paid or hoping to get their 15 minutes of fame, they are reporting a skewed view. Not balanced reporting. Sorry.
 

elise

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This is false information. Start with how the charter does not apply to the media. If Ford thinks it was an invasion of his privacy he can try and sue the Star: I guarantee you he will lose.
What is false information? Section 7 has nothing to do security of the person? The media doesn't have to respect the Charter but everyone else does?

Good God. You've been fighting too long with LH and you're morphing into him…

The media cannot report why you visited your doctors office by questioning the office receptionist. The media has to walk a very fine line, and in this case that is usually done with anecdotal stories from other patients that were in group therapy.
 

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What is false information? Section 7 has nothing to do security of the person? The media doesn't have to respect the Charter but everyone else does?
Only the government is bound by the charter, it does not apply to you and me, or the Star. It restricts what kinds of laws the government can pass, we are then bound by those laws, not the charter.
 

elise

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Its mind boggling that anyone would still defend the repulsive clown
No arguing he is a clown (Ford not Fuji) and he is getting what he deserves - from the heckling to the media scrutiny.

What you are seeing here is typical of political threads (hint to moderators… time to move it over) where someone makes a statement and others take issue with how it was said.
 

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Rob Ford is not entitled to any of the rights and priviledges afforded to you and I.
Fuck'm
If the press is unfair
Fuck'm
Subject to way more scrutiny than others
Fuck'm
Waste 1/2 of yesterday while they debate his robo calls - then apologises
Fuck'm
Hound and pound him
Fuck'm
Take away his civli liberties
Fuck'm

Still undecided on my vote tho.ugh...........
 

GPIDEAL

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Its mind boggling that anyone would still defend the repulsive clown
It's a discussion about certain principles instead of one defending him. Just because he's a repulsive clown doesn't mean that whatever people do or how they treat him is necessarily all right.
 

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Rob Ford is not entitled to any of the rights and priviledges afforded to you and I.
Of course he is, however there is a long standing legal tradition that the press can report on otherwise private information about a public figure when there is a genuine public interest in knowing.
 

elise

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Only the government is bound by the charter, it does not apply to you and me, or the Star. It restricts what kinds of laws the government can pass, we are then bound by those laws, not the charter.
If that is true, I stand humbly corrected.

Still there are privacy laws that restrict you from asking about medical treatments and conditions. Can you imagine the outrage if you were asked on a job application if you have ever had a STD?
 

elise

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Of course he is, however there is a long standing legal tradition that the press can report on otherwise private information about a public figure when there is a genuine public interest in knowing.
Within reasonable limits of course. I'd bet Ford has a little dick and I love it if the media would tell me if that is true. I'd bet lots of people would find that interesting. But that doesn't make it ok for the media to dig for it by bugging his urologist.
 

GPIDEAL

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If that is true, I stand humbly corrected.

Still there are privacy laws that restrict you from asking about medical treatments and conditions. Can you imagine the outrage if you were asked on a job application if you have ever had a STD?
There may be laws against an EMPLOYER asking that kind of personal information, but the press is a different story.
 

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Yeah, it's not like he was a Muslim.......or black.
I just think the badgering is a little much, especially when it comes to certain personal details.

Yet, HE probably brings much of it upon himself.
 

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Within reasonable limits of course. I'd bet Ford has a little dick and I love it if the media would tell me if that is true. I'd bet lots of people would find that interesting. But that doesn't make it ok for the media to dig for it by bugging his urologist.
Yup. I heard a couple of stories today from someone but I can't or won't repeat it here.

(Okay, enough of this thread for me).
 

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Within reasonable limits of course. I'd bet Ford has a little dick and I love it if the media would tell me if that is true. I'd bet lots of people would find that interesting. But that doesn't make it ok for the media to dig for it by bugging his urologist.
The test is genuine public interest and there is a lot of case law including several SCC decisions as to what constitutes a genuine interest.

Mere public fascination is not enough, there has to be a valid public controversy which the facts shed light on and several other factors.

Whether or not Ford is fit to be mayor does depend on whether his rehabilitation has worked and so the Star would have no problem defending against any claim of defamation or violation of privacy brought by Ford.
 
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