Rob Ford's character

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Bigotry.

Violent marital disputes.

Violent outbursts coaching hockey.

Now an arrest and conviction for drunk driving--and apparently lying about it to the media.

Oh yeah and it turns out the only reason he was coaching hockey? Community service as part of his DUI conviction.

Not the first time he's lied either: He lied about getting drunk and causing a scene at a hockey game.
 

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Bigotry. (Lets not confuse truth with bigotry)

Violent marital disputes. (Dismissed)

Violent outbursts coaching hockey. (Who hasn't gotten passionate at a Leaf game)

Now an arrest and conviction for drunk driving--and apparently
lying about it to the media. (Refuse Breathalyzer - Pled guilty...lets not be righteous now)

Oh yeah and it turns out the only reason he was coaching hockey? Community service as part of his DUI conviction. (Perfectly agreed to by the Florida Courts)

Not the first time he's lied either: He lied about getting drunk and causing a scene at a hockey game. [(Sheepish tom foolery..which he admitted to..who cares)?[/QUOTE]

TURNS OUT THAT AFTER THE REVELATIONS - 75% of people were MORE LIKELY to support FORD.

THe skullduggery of Smitherman and the smear campaign backfired!!
 

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Rob Ford is an outright bigot. There's no other explanation for his inane statements, like Toronto should be a refugee free zone, is being taken over by orientals, etc.

Violent marital dispute dismissed--yes, he should not be sent to prison unless his guilt can be proved beyond a reasonable doubt. However we should perhaps hold him to a higher standard before electing him to the Mayor's office. We can't afford to take the chance.

Just refuse breathalyzer? Well first that's still a crime. Second the truth has come out--you've missed the latest news, he was lying about it it only being a refuse breathalyzer. Lying.

As for the hockey game, yeah ltos of people become rowdy at a hockey game--how many go on to lie about doing it? Do we want a liar in the mayor's office? What else is he willing to lie about? He is demonstrated now REPEATEDLY that he is the sort of man who would rather lie and cover up his mistakes than bring them out into the open and deal with them honestly. Real life mayors face problems, things do not always go as planned, we need someone who will be forthright about that and not lie and cover up the problems.

Here is the main point:

I've not had this much "bad luck" in my life and neither have you. He's a three time loser who has repeatedly lied about his actions. I'm getting tired of hearing all of his excuses and while they might suffice to keep him out of prison they do not suffice in demonstrating that he has the sort of character we should demand from our mayor.
 

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Regarding the charges that occurred in Florida, I don't have a problem with him having a bit of marijuana. Not a big deal. Refusing the breathalyzer, that's different. That indicates to me that he knew at the time that he may have or would have failed the breathalyzer test. Therefore he was knowingly driving somewhat or substantially impaired. That indicates to me a serious lack of judgement. He put his convenience ahead of the lives of himself, his passengers and others on the road.
 

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Bigotry. (Lets not confuse truth with bigotry)

Violent marital disputes. (Dismissed)

Violent outbursts coaching hockey. (Who hasn't gotten passionate at a Leaf game)

Now an arrest and conviction for drunk driving--and apparently
lying about it to the media. (Refuse Breathalyzer - Pled guilty...lets not be righteous now)

Oh yeah and it turns out the only reason he was coaching hockey? Community service as part of his DUI conviction. (Perfectly agreed to by the Florida Courts)

Not the first time he's lied either: He lied about getting drunk and causing a scene at a hockey game. [(Sheepish tom foolery..which he admitted to..who cares)?[/QUOTE]

TURNS OUT THAT AFTER THE REVELATIONS - 75% of people were MORE LIKELY to support FORD.

THe skullduggery of Smitherman and the smear campaign backfired!!
Thank you Rob Ford!
 

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Funny how more people agree with his statements than disagree. See today's Sun. He may just be Torontos next mayor.
 

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Funny how more people agree with his statements than disagree. See today's Sun. He may just be Torontos next mayor.
Ford and the people of T.O. deserve each other.

The only thing worse than having Ford for mayor would be having as our leader an incompetent, boorish coke fiend that improbably used to be our deputy premier a.k.a George (I talk with an annoying lisp) Smitherman. If Sarah Thompson had a shot, I'd dearly love to see her elected but that's not meant to be, unfortunately. I like her positions on toll roads and raising the aesthetic standards of the architecture in the city. Plus, she looks a whole lot better than the other mugs running for office. I'd far rather be gazing at her in the papers over the next four years than Ford or that other shifty cocksucker.
 

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Is he any more of a clown than Mel Lastman was ?

Rob Ford is cashing in on the population's distrust with the current "gang of thieves" that run the place. This growing disgust really gained momentum with the garbage strike and TTC issues last year.

Yes Ford does seems like a bit of a bufoon but honestly how many of us have never smoked a joint ? Or driven over .08 at least once or twice? Or yelled at someone ? Might be good for the city if he could clean house for a year before blowing up and resigning over some trailer-trash issue or another.
 

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He's right about the waste at City Hall but I don't see him as a solution to our fiscal problems.

How can he reduce taxes if he wants cops to patrol our schools? Does he know what that will cost?

Why is he against cycling? It can save money on building new infrastructure and on health costs if it was encouraged.

He supported the billion dollars to police the G-20, even felt they should have cracked more heads. Yet he's a violent angry man, suppose the police cuffed him after each of his outbursts? Would he like that?

We won't see costs go down with him, he's penny wise but pound foolish.
 

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He's right about the waste at City Hall but I don't see him as a solution to our fiscal problems.

How can he reduce taxes if he wants cops to patrol our schools? Does he know what that will cost? Yes actually he does know, but is it less expensive to try and correct the problems that the policing could solve early after the fact?

Why is he against cycling? It can save money on building new infrastructure and on health costs if it was encouraged.

The quote that is floating around is not that bicycling is bad or that he is against bicycling per se., He said that a lot of the accidents that involve cars and bikes are the cyclists fault. What he is against is building bicycle lanes in places that restrict traffic with no other purpose than restricting traffic ( Jarvis&University)

He supported the billion dollars to police the G-20, even felt they should have cracked more heads. Yet he's a violent angry man, suppose the police cuffed him after each of his outbursts? Would he like that?

Actually he has been cuffed after most of them, If the police had been more proactive early in that mess less damage would have been done. The question of why they did not is interesting and for anmother thread

We won't see costs go down with him, he's penny wise but pound foolish.
How do you know? Have you taken his plans apart for inconsistancies? Costed out the items? Until you ahve a statement like this has no basis beyond partisanship
 

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IYes Ford does seems like a bit of a bufoon but honestly how many of us have never smoked a joint ? Or driven over .08 at least once or twice? Or yelled at someone ? Might be good for the city if he could clean house for a year before blowing up and resigning over some trailer-trash issue or another.
My issue is with his character is the lying and the bigotry.

Specifically he appears willing to lie to cover up information he considers harmful to his interests. Will he do that when he is Mayor? Will he cover up problems by lying about them? He has done that REPEATEDLY now, on several different occasions and on different issues. In each case he only fessed up to the truth when the media started running evidence that he had lied.

Ford has been arrested three times and convicted once. I have never been arrested, let alone convicted. I'm guessing most of us have never been arrested. What sort of person is he really? One arrest you can chalk up to possibly a misunderstanding / wrong-place wrong-time / he-said she-said but THREE? With one leading to a conviction? What is it about him that this keeps happening to him? Each time he has an excuse, but how many times can it go on before you suspect it is actually him that's the problem? The guy has a police record longer than some gangsters. If he weren't a politician the media would generally describe him as an individual "known to the police".
 

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My issue is with his character is the lying and the bigotry.

Specifically he appears willing to lie to cover up information he considers harmful to his interests. Will he do that when he is Mayor? Will he cover up problems by lying about them? He has done that REPEATEDLY now, on several different occasions and on different issues. In each case he only fessed up to the truth when the media started running evidence that he had lied.

Ford has been arrested three times and convicted once. I have never been arrested, let alone convicted. I'm guessing most of us have never been arrested. What sort of person is he really? One arrest you can chalk up to possibly a misunderstanding / wrong-place wrong-time / he-said she-said but THREE? With one leading to a conviction? What is it about him that this keeps happening to him? Each time he has an excuse, but how many times can it go on before you suspect it is actually him that's the problem? The guy has a police record longer than some gangsters. If he weren't a politician the media would generally describe him as an individual "known to the police".
Go Ford GO!! Get rid of the corrupt leftwing scum who spend and tax at City Hall!! Ford will the the next Mayor of Toronto ... the left wing nuts can go fuck themselves. At least with Ford the gravey train will stop. Look at the lying scum Dalton McGuity ... all he do is tax and spend! Look at David Miller tax and spend! Look at George Smitherman a ex-drug addict and who waste 1 billion dollar on e-health plus lot of skeleton you aren't aware of!

So with Ford who care at least he will become the hero for the taxpayer who will stop wasteful spending, and cut the tax.
 

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My issue is with his character is the lying and the bigotry.

Specifically he appears willing to lie to cover up information he considers harmful to his interests. Will he do that when he is Mayor? Will he cover up problems by lying about them? He has done that REPEATEDLY now, on several different occasions and on different issues. In each case he only fessed up to the truth when the media started running evidence that he had lied.

Ford has been arrested three times and convicted once. I have never been arrested, let alone convicted. I'm guessing most of us have never been arrested. What sort of person is he really? One arrest you can chalk up to possibly a misunderstanding / wrong-place wrong-time / he-said she-said but THREE? With one leading to a conviction? What is it about him that this keeps happening to him? Each time he has an excuse, but how many times can it go on before you suspect it is actually him that's the problem? The guy has a police record longer than some gangsters. If he weren't a politician the media would generally describe him as an individual "known to the police".
Go Ford GO!! Get rid of the corrupt leftwing scum who spend and tax at City Hall!! Ford will the the next Mayor of Toronto ... the left wing nuts can go fuck themselves. At least with Ford the gravey train will stop. Look at the lying scum Dalton McGuity ... all he do is tax and spend! Look at David Miller tax and spend! Look at George Smitherman a ex-drug addict and who waste 1 billion dollar on e-health plus lot of skeleton you aren't aware of!

So with Ford who care at least he will become the hero for the taxpayer who will stop wasteful spending and keep increasing and taxing the fed up taxpayers.



My issue is with his character is the lying and the bigotry. Rob Ford is an outright bigot. There's no other explanation for his inane statements, like Toronto should be a refugee free zone, is being taken over by orientals, etc.
I am chinese and I agree with his statement ..." orientals work like dogs" and I sick of being tax to death by the leftwing nuts Miller's cronies! So fuck you to the left wing nuts at city hall who just tax and tax and spend and spend and spend. With Ford I know he is rich and he is not a crook and will look after the taxpayer money.
He will have my vote unless he commit a murder or get convicted of murder.

Violent marital dispute dismissed--yes, he should not be sent to prison unless his guilt can be proved beyond a reasonable doubt. However we should perhaps hold him to a higher standard before electing him to the Mayor's office. We can't afford to take the chance.
The person is innocent and the wife made a false and inconsistent statement to the police. The Rob Ford's wife has some sort of mental illness or mental breakdown and Ford was the victim here! If Ford was guilty he would have been arrest and put on trial for being a wife beater. It did not even go to court.... last I heard from the newspaper that they reported Ford's wife have some sort of mental illness or mental meltdown. Ford did not abandon his wife
and he still with her and support his children. So please stop twisting the facts.... spinning it.

I like your opinion on the middle east which was accurate and logical. But you blew it with this one!



GO Tyflon Ford GO...
 

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Go Ford GO!! Get rid of the corrupt leftwing scum who spend and tax at City Hall!! Ford will the the next Mayor of Toronto ... the left wing nuts can go fuck themselves.
Oh, I see.
Ford is popular because there are hate filled bigots willing to vote for him.
 

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Yet another reason I'm glad I don't live in TO.
Good .... Toronto do not need you .... another voter who probably believe in Miller pattern of tax and spend.
 

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Oh, I see.
Ford is popular because there are hate filled bigots willing to vote for him.
Actually he is popular because he says what he means, he has found a platform to run on that is resonating with a lot of people. All the mud that is flying around, thrown by other candidates is not sticking. The people who are answering the pols, ( even some ofthe most slanted excuses for "neutral polling") have found something that they like about him, that is unmistakable.

The fact is that the other candiidates have produced nothing in the way of a platform that has attracted any interest, and that is the bottom line, if the other candidates are such better choices than Rob Ford why have none of them produced anything that is worth the time to read? I have seen nothing that has been repeated more than once in the media.

George Smitherman the other concensus choice has not produced a thing besides a guy in a chicken suit and a truley impressive amount of whining about how Rob Ford is bad for the city, how he has concerns about Fords ability to tell the truth and any other CRITISISM that he can lay his hands one.

Would it not be a better plan to get HIS PLATFORM out in fromt of the people who are going to be voting ? Give all those people something to talk about besides Rob Ford ? He has not done so and i think the voters are tuning him out, He has a load of bagage from his Deputy Premier and Cabinet Minister days most people are associating him with e-health ( not unreasonably) and I think have sort of shuffled him off to the side.

The other candidates realistically had no chance without a massive meltdown of one of the two front runners..... the heat is on and Ford is not melting and neither is his support, the fact that Smitherman can not make any gains after all of this is really telling.
 

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Oh, I see.
Ford is popular because there are hate filled bigots willing to vote for him.
You are an idiot ... where in my statement is a bigot remark!!!! You are an impecile !!! Go kiss Smitherman's Ass or David Miller cronies butthole!!
When you have to keep paying taxes example garbage bag tax, landtransfer tax, increases in TTC tokens,etc. Soon probably toll tax on road. The 5 cent per grocery bag, TV or computer monitor taxes, etc.... Taxpayer starting to get fucking mad... you work and 50% of your salary goes to gov't in some form of taxes.

Fuck you to all the leftwing nuts & David Miller cronies who keep on increases tax and wasteful spending at City Hall.

Hey I am not rich and cost of living is going up every year plus taxes. And my salary still remain the same.
With Ford I know he will look after the taxpayer money!!!
 

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Actually he is popular because he says what he means, he has found a platform to run on that is resonating with a lot of people.
The only part of his platform that resonates with me is that he might actually break the unions. I think a lot of people are pissed off about that TTC strike and other such incidents. I'm willing to be that's where he draws the majority of his support and that after that people are generally holding their collective noses.

What's he got after that?

Stupid policies, gaffes, a criminal record, and a penchant for lying to the public. I disagree that he says what he means: He has been caught lying repeatedly--three times now on separate issues--so I'm not sure why you would believe that. He is NOT an honest man, not by any stretch of the imagination.

if the other candidates are such better choices than Rob Ford why have none of them produced anything that is worth the time to read?
I haven't seen anything like that from Ford either.
 
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