What was that you were saying?
Oh yeah, its because of this.
Report: 93% of Polled Arab Residents of Jerusalem Prefer Israeli Rule to Palestinian Authority
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Oh yeah, its because of this.
It sure does give more rights to Jewish Israelis than Palestinians.
fulfilling the right to national self-determination in the state of Israel is unique to the Jewish people.
You said it can't be apartheid unless there are apartheid laws.
There are, the Nation State Law.
So now you say the law has to give different rights.
And now its show to give different rights based on race/religion.
The matter is settled by your own terms.
As you define it, Israel is apartheid.
That also is confirmed by B'tselem, the UN and HRW, who use the ICC definition which will be tested in court some day.
So now that we've confirmed Israel is apartheid, why do you still defend this apartheid state?
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Did you not read what you post? Nothing in there about HRW supporting your alleged boycott that you claim to follow but only when its convenient for you.
Bullshit. Please describe one legal right that Arab Israelis lost in that useless law.
Seriously, I used to think it was a bit of work to refute your claims but you've degraded to simply posting the same refuted BS without even bothering to read it.
I never said anything about HRW supporting BDS, that's your worry.
But since you mentioned.
Israel expels Human Rights Watch official over boycott accusations
A Human Rights Watch (HRW) official complied with an Israeli expulsion order on Monday imposed over accusations he backs an international pro-Palestinian boycott, but said the edict would only encourage rights abuses.
www.reuters.com
Israel to Expel Human Rights Worker, Citing Anti-Boycott Law (Published 2019)
Rejecting an appeal by a United States citizen, Israel’s Supreme Court ruled that his visa should not be renewed.
Israel, the only democracy in the middle east you like to claim, expels people who criticize them or suggest boycotts.
Which is kinda the point of your IHRA definition as well.
You claim criticism of Israeli policy is ok, but then back expelling people who criticize Israeli policy, don't you?
I already did.
fulfilling the right to national self-determination in the state of Israel is unique to the Jewish people.
This, as you called, defines Israel as apartheid by merit of laws that give different rights based on race/religion.
We can now add you to the list of HRW, B'tselem, the UN and quite a long list of others who acknowledge that Israel is apartheid.
According to basketcase's terms, Israel is apartheid.
Like mentioning that the poll also asked if they'd be willing to give up their Arab Israeli/Jerusalem identity cards?
Don't say.....
إستطلاع رأي : 93% من العرب في القدس يفضلون بقاء الحكم الإسرائيلي - شبكة فلسطين للأنباء - شفا
شفا - أجرى فرع العمل الميداني في شبكة فلسطين للأنباء شفا، إستطلاعاً للرأي في مدينة القدس حول الخيار
www.shfanews.net
That's strange. You made up that HRW and B'TYselem support BDS and when I challenged your lie, you directly quoted this:
Just another case where you just mindlessly spam the site with no content other than your obsession with Israel existing.
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What a ridiculous argument.
You are trying to claim that Arab citizens of Israel had the legal right to create their own state inside Israel and they lost it? That's just dumb.
Like everyone else, they have the choice to either be Israeli citizens or not. They and their ancestors have chosen to be Israeli. That is how self-determination works. One of Israel's major Arab political parties (and members of the governing coalition) aren't concerned about the word Jewish and Arabs in East Jer4usalem OVERWHELMINGLY prefer Israeli rule to PA or Hamas rule. Again, that is self determination.
But of course you couldn't be bothered listening to what Arabs actually want because you know better.
What does this have to do with anything? The article in the OP is Arabs in East Jerusalem saying that in the case of a Two State peace, they would rather live in Israel.
No, you fabricated yet another straw man attack.
I said it didn't come from me and then showed you that it was yet another false attack as well.
So really, you doubly failed on this one, first with the fabricated straw man and then second by the merit of your straw man just being wrong all around.
I didn't say HRW and B'tselem support BDS, you did, and then after I pointed that out I showed you that you didn't even do a basic check.
What I don't see is any shock that Israel is using cancel culture to kick people, and specifically human rights workers, out of their country for criticizing their policies.
That's not very democratic, is it?
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Another straw man argument.
The right to self determination is about having the rights to live their lives.
What is Self-determination?
Essentially, the right to self-determination is the right of a people to determine its own destiny. In particular, the principle allows a people to choose its own political status and to determine its own form of economic, cultural and social development.
You know this, and are trying to use straw men attacks to deflect.
This is the very definition of apartheid, giving different rights based on race/religion.
By your terms you have defined Israel as apartheid, with separate laws for different race/religion.
You now agree with HRW, the UN and B'tselem.
Now its time for you to stop your social warrior princess act or to stop defending apartheid.
Either you are against racism and apartheid or you are for it?
Which is it?
The poll says 93% don't want to give up their Israeli passports to live as totally stateless refugees in occupied Palestine or Gaza.
That's not what it says, says nothing about stateless it says:
Report: 93% of Polled Arab Residents of Jerusalem Prefer Israeli Rule to Palestinian Authority
A new poll of Arab residents of Jerusalem by a Palestinian media outlet found that 93% of them prefer to remain under Israeli rule and would not give up their Israeli identity card.
Arab residents of Jerusalem are, for the most part, not Israeli citizens, but can request citizenship if they wish. Those who are not citizens carry a special ID card allowing them freedom of movement within Israel proper.
The poll conducted by the Shfa news outlet asked 1,200 Arab Jerusalemites — none of them Israeli citizens — regarding their preference for living under Israeli or Palestinian rule in the future.
1,116 of the respondents said they prefer for Israel to continue to rule Jerusalem. 84 said they preferred the Palestinian Authority, but 79 of those said they would not give up their current identity card.
maybe you should read the article instead of making up your won reality.
The poll conducted by the Shfa news outlet asked 1,200 Arab Jerusalemites — none of them Israeli citizens — regarding their preference for living under Israeli or Palestinian rule in the future.
1,116 of the respondents said they prefer for Israel to continue to rule Jerusalem. 84 said they preferred the Palestinian Authority, but 79 of those said they would not give up their current identity card.
Sorry but you clearly have no idea what that term means.
I asked you what legal rights Arab Israelis lost by that pointless law. All you can do is pretend that Arab Israelis don't have the 'right' to be not part of Israel. In reality, they have determined that they want to be Israeli just like 93% of East Jerusalem Arabs prefer Israeli rule.
You just don't like the choices they've made showing your definition of self-determination means that you get to determine their path.
I gave you the international definition with a linked quote.
Which means its you that is trolling and pretending to not know what the definition of the right of self determination is.
Perhaps this definition might stop your trolling.
The Accord on Afrikaner self-determination is a South African political accord that recognises the right of the Afrikaner people on self-determination. The accord was signed by the Freedom Front, the African National Congress and the National Party-led South African government on 23 April 1994.
That is how South Africa legally ended apartheid.
Then again, given that its the very definition of apartheid I don't think you can ever admit its true, even if its the law.
That would be like moviefan admitting climate change is real.
Israel adopts divisive law that declares only Jews have the right of self-determination
