Conversely, because it's "commissioned" by the government it must be false ??? :spy:
Remembering 9/11
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Not much different than "X" dropping off a fully intact passport from one of the hijackers which was engulfed in a ball of fire instantly and being a contributing force to that devastating fire that apparently caused the collapse within an hour. " not! (lol)"
Anything is possible, according to the "X (GOVERNMENT)" it was a 767 that smashed into the Twin Towers, then later it was reported that they found a part of the engine on the streets.
Guess what though, WRONG ENGINE for that plane.
That's some cover-up, err, fuck up. "yes! (lol)"
Sure, if some points are made that are extremely questionable, then people have the right to question it. It's not set in stone.
Do you trust the government all the time in everything it says? Do I have to look at your previous posts to answer that question or can you answer that quickly here and just make it easier for yourself.
What is it then?
In many law cases, or government for that reason, keep any other footage private. If the group responsible for this got the information, they could use it as propaganda for recruiting their own troops, and learn from it for future hits. I am sure they did a lot of research on the towers before they selected them.
It looks like a lot of damage to me. Also, you have no idea how the building was constructed, and if the plane slowed a little before impact, or any of those facts, so you really can't back up that statement.
WTC was entirely different construction.
No, we don't necessarily believe the government, but we believe eye witnesses, things that make sense ie keeping 1000's of conspirators quiet is very unrealistic, our own knowledge (I design and build), etc.
Eyewitnesses verified airplane parts in the Pentagon, saw it hit the building, heard it. If it didn't crash there, where is the airplane and all the hostages, as an attendant on the airplane called to tell someone the plane was hijacked. There is so much evidence that the airplane hit the Pentagon, I don't have to look far.
What about this question I posed earlier? They would have to keep everyone outside that heard it quiet too.
Did they pay off the entire area and all the visitors that were there that day? They would have to surround the city and make sure no-one left before being convinced to keep it quiet.
Kind of difficult to do unnoticed. Think of how huge an undertaking that would be. In addition to hiding the hi-jacked aircraft, and it flying un-noticed on radar.
A) Yes however following the alternative - would you please explain the street light damage, where the missile came from, where the f!ck is Flight 77, the crew and why not one bolt has turned up; who did it and why ? Why the missile and not the plane ??? It's hard to offer some vague alternative concept leaving out the most important details.
B) The aluminium hollow tube (i.e. the plane) hit a reinforced concrete structure at over 500 mph - it virtually disintegrated on impact. The idea of a Wile E Coyote silhouette entering the building is fantasy. I suggest you google some aircraft collisions into buildings and you will find very little large pieces other than steel engine parts exist.
C)
If you could tell which little pieces came from the plane from the rest of the Pentagon debris - they should have given you some tweezers and glue to do it for them.
D) Why did it have to skid ? It did hit at an angle:
Yeah, I'm comfortable with the plane until someone comes up with a complete explanation that covers the evidence presented.
If anyone is interested, Kurt Sonnenfeld worked for FEMA at ground zero and was one of 4 photographers permitted to be on scene. He has 20 hours worth of film. He is in exile in Argentina right now and he says he has proof that 911 was an inside job. The government tried to frame him for his wife's murder but was dismissed due to insufficient evidence. Could the government be trying to silence him like so many others past? Hmmmmm
Kurt Sonnenfeld wiki bio
Ground Zero Part 1
Kurt Sonnenfeld wiki bio
Ground Zero Part 1
Eye-witness accounts are admissible but not all are credible or correct.
We believe all eyewitnesses that two planes crashed into the WTC, and those that saw one plane crash into the Pentagon.
We also believe in those firefighters who knew that Building 7 would collapse due to the severe damage from it being hit by a huge chunk of one of the towers plus the ensuing fires. They measured the sag with a transit level. That was an eye-witness account.
The plane speedily crashed into the Pentagon. There are some other videos I noticed on You Tube but no perfect ones probably because of bad luck. Besides, maybe the Pentagon doesn't want you or terrorists to know what their cameras can actually see. As far as I'm concerned, it's mute when countless eye-witnesses saw the plane crash into the Pentagon, killing everyone on board.
Any other scenario is a silly conspiracy theory.
So firefighters and Vietnam vets who obviously know what an explosion sounds like, are not credible eye witnesses in your opinion? Just curious what I'm dealing with here?
It's moving too fast from this angle for us to discern but I believe in the countless eye-witnesses who saw a plane hit the Pentagon and I believe real people died on that plane who don't exist on this earth anymore.Pause at 0:22 and 0:23 even 0:24 (before the missile, errr plane enters the frame) does that honestly look like a big commercial jet liner flying THAT fast and THAT low to you?
It's so tiny (yeah that's what she said) compared to that of a plane, which it's supposed to be. lol
Here we go. That thing couldn't even pass for a Lear Jet. lol
Which ones and how many and what did they say? What are you referring to exactly?
Use your head.LOL EXACTLY . It's the home of what is apparently the most powerful militarized country in the world and no cameras caught anything of substance. lol
https://www.nationalpriorities.org/campaigns/us-military-spending-vs-world/
There were not 360 cameras trained on that one spot where the plane hit.
Nobody is expecting a low-flying passenger plane with their transponder off in a suicide mission to collide with the Pentagon.
Maybe incoming bombers from high above or missiles could be detected and thwarted, but this was a surprise attack by conventional aircraft.
I'm asking you the question, If you were told many firefighters and war vets spoke about numerous explosions that day, would that warrant some credibility to you, in your opinion or not really?
So, there is no chance he is trying to sell a fake story for money? And, the other 3 photographers found nothing? He has written a book about it, which was refuted by another author.
From what I read regarding his case, he and his wife were the only 2 in the house. He was plastered, she was distressed, and it seems she shot herself.
The district attorney dropped the case due to the fact they couldn't prosecute beyond a reasonable doubt. He wasn't framed - he was a real suspect as he was one of the two people in the house at the point of his wife's death. The US government has not exiled him, they are trying to extradite him back to the US, because he is still a suspect in his wife's death, due to her blood spatter on him.
http://www.gq.com/story/kurt-sonnenfeld-9-11-conspiracy-theory
In June 2002, a day before a scheduled court date, the district attorney's office dropped the charges against Sonnenfeld. Prosecutors didn't believe they could prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, an assistant D.A. said. After more than five months behind bars, Sonnenfeld went free. It was a “dismissal without prejudice,” meaning the prosecution retained the right to refile charges. But Sonnenfeld felt vindicated and hugely relieved. “He just thanked God that it finally had come to a close,” his father told the Rocky Mountain News.
He's not afraid of the 9/11 part, he's afraid he'll be found guilty being an accomplice of some sort to his wife's death, although hers were the only prints on the gun and the gunpowder residue was on her hands. How did he get blood spatter on him.
I suggest this. He is afraid that they will find him partially responsible for his wife's death, and he is using this story for publicity to further promote his book, and to stay alive. In 2003, they found additional evidence against him in his wife's death.
Your guess is as good as mine, don't really care, but this ground zero footage is interesting.
So, the evil government was competent enough to pull off a conspiracy & keep the hundreds or thousands of people involved quiet about it, but despite killing 3000 of their own citizens & having no qualms about doing so, the best they could do to shut up this guy with his so-called evidence is to try(unsuccessfully) to frame him for the murder of his wife? Lmao.
The same government who violated another country's borders to go in & kill bin Laden wouldn't just have this guy killed? Laughable.
As for the no video evidence at the Pentagon, how soon we forget. Pre 9/11, there were not video cameras everywhere, as there are today. And the places that did have them did not have anywhere near the amount of storage that exists now.
They went into Iraq and Iran and murdered hundreds of thousands in the name of the "war on terror", many of those who were children and babies - these are the guys we are talking about. Bar minimum, they knew about 911 before it happened and did nothing about it. There are so many whistleblowers, some have been killed, John O'Neil & others. Edward Snowden is a perfect example of what happens to whistleblowers. Listen, you can continue to believe it was terrorists and I will continue to question that.
...and btw, that famous video shot of the ball of flame hitting the pentacon, I've seen a different angle, one from the concrete post in front of the post that had the camera, there were other cameras there. They confiscated the security cameras from neighbouring businesses, which they had to fight in court to get back. You comment is based on ignorance, sorry to say
