Remembering 9/11

[huckfinn]

Same 'Just Wow to you'. First of all, they aren't going to be thinking of 'framing' in the last few minutes / seconds of their life. And, it certainly wouldn't be the last thing I want to share with a spouse. Also, if I recall correctly, she was in the process of hanging up the phone when she stated that, or something close to that. How could she have gotten that information? Any conspirators on the flight would not share information like that, especially if they see people on their cell phone speaking to people not in the plane.

What would I say in that situation, "I love you sweetheart, please don't grieve too much."

Your theory assumes she is alive, or held elsewhere. Where would that be, and do you not think they would make every effort to contact loved ones?
Maybe they killed them another way, hid the airplane and all traces, and paid off all the people where they landed the plane to keep it quiet. Or, maybe they flew it to a foreign country, not noticed on radar, or having to ask for landing rights. Now they are holding all of them hostage, feeding them, and no-one is asking any questions.

Oh, and the airline isn't looking for their multi-million dollar airplane either, to avoid lawsuits, or negative press. The airlines insurance company isn't looking either, because they want to pay for the airplane.

Wait, all of the hundreds of people on the flight with life insurance, their insurers aren't looking either. They would rather pay out millions in life insurance.

So, no response to this earlier post of mine?

 

[huckfinn]

Where does the remaining energy come from when you have the top 10-15 floors meeting with forces the immediate 10-15 floors below, then what?
Understand after the top and bottom floors in equal amounts meet with equal force, there's no energy left.
That's it. [no "unique", "special", "amazing" forces]

Actually that's not it....as pointed out before, the ATTACHMENTS holding the INDIVIDUAL floors below are all that need to fail. Those ATTACHMENTS are meant to hold ONE floor, not 2, 3, 10, 15 etc. Whether the falling floors are intact, or in pieces, its still the same mass falling onto floors below.

Newton's theory applies to each floor individually, as the individual supports hanging in the frame are providing an equal upward force at each floor, for that floor only.
The force is not expended, nor is any extra energy required. And, the force up (the floor supports holding ONE floor) is certainly not equal to the downward force of multiple floors.

Do an experiment. Take a brick, and suspend it on 4 strings only strong enough to hold up that one brick (like supports holding up a floor), Then take one brick, bust it in pieces (like the floors being pulverized), put it in a plastic bag and drop it on the brick held by the 4 strings.

The strings will break, much like the floor system.

Did you try the experiment I suggested holding as much weight in your arms that you can, then have someone add weight? You will drop it, much like the supports holding up the individual floors in the building.

Until you try one or both of those experiments, to quote yourself, "there's no helping you."

 

[basketcase]

Right, the military with the biggest budget in the world has cameras only pointing to "access points", forget everywhere else. LOL
Nice try, try again.

Yep, I'm sure they have super duper high resolution cameras pointed at every blade of grass.

 

[basketcase]

I love this "unique" garbage....

I love how you constantly come up with excuses for your ignorance. Obviously you have no clue about structural engineering but keep on blathering about things and not bothering to try and understand what others have posted. More importantly, the way forces transmit through connecting pins is not unique but applies to pretty much every large building.

As I clearly explained, Newton 3 would only apply the way you claim if each floor was a rigid body. They weren't nor are the floors in any building.

Not free fall, but a couple seconds faster than free fall,

So not only do you think it was a controlled demolition despite how ridiculously impossible it would be but you also think they had some kind of magic explosives that made it fall faster than free fall? But sure, you are the one here who understands physics. :der: