Relationship Recession Going Global

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And women are not just ending marriages for no reason. Let’s not try and play that game. Women have lots of reason for divorce.
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Explain the findings.
 
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Jenesis

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Janesis, I get what you're saying. My whole point here - I would try and do right even if it dis-serviced me. Thats all. I see what the law wants me to do. The guidance book is appreciated but doesn't have to be followed because it can be unfair in one persons eyes. If something works in my favor and I can create a positive I will. I still stand strong on that principal. So if I received an over-payment that I didn't feel was right, I would place that money into her RESP. It will sit good with everyone and who wins? The child. At the end of the day this is all about being fair for all parties. There's too many people I know who make 300,000 and live in basement apartments.

Going to play with my kid.
See that is your problem. And mine too. We believe that people are like us. And they are fair. I never took a dime of child support. I made enough money. I asked him to put it away in an account or RESP. He said he would but he didn’t. It didn’t do anything to me but did a disservice to my kid. I still did my job and saved for the future and took care of the present.

What I did fight for was him to have time with my kid. There was a time period when something went bad at his house and the school called CAS. After they did their investigation, they told me no visits until they say so. Well that doesn’t work legally so I applied an emergency motion with the court. Serving both CAS and him. They didn’t like that very much BTW. Apparently you are not supposed to hold them legally accountable. But I had no legal right to deny visitation and we had no custody agreement anyways. We didn’t need one up to that point.

Once the denial of visitation got sorted out and he did the parenting class, I made the visitation schedule. Giving alternate holidays, yearly vacation time in the summer. Alternating March breaks, and as much time has I could give. It wasn’t for me, it was for my kid. That is my job as a parent. To help foster their relationships, not hinder them because I don’t get along with the person.

So you and I are alike in that line of thinking, but too many are not. Which is why these laws need to be made.

Oh and BTW - for those that need to know - FRO is automatically involved. You have to both agree and legally opt out of it. You are automatically opted in whenever support is issued. Because often it becomes an issue at some point. They take their money off the first available pay checks and will take half your cheque until the monthly amount is paid. So if you make 2000 a week and your support is a 1300, they will take 1000 off the first check and then 300 off the second.

The agency can’t backdate anything. The courts have to issue that and then they can collect. Again, at 50% of your cheque until paid.
 
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Compare divorce rates in the following pairings:

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Woman/Man
Man/Man

Explain the findings.
Why? We are talking about heterosexual relationships. That is the original thread topic and that is what the comments pertain to.

Sorry but I just don’t care enough ….
 

wiskey bravo

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Don’t apologize!
Most to all people HATE hearing hard truths and often deflect or refuse to dispute all points and counter points because they have no ammo in the chamber so to speak, and they know it.
It's always the man. Sure.
See that is your problem. And mine too. We believe that people are like us. And they are fair. I never took a dime of child support. I made enough money. I asked him to put it away in an account or RESP. He said he would but he didn’t. It didn’t do anything to me but did a disservice to my kid. I still did my job and saved for the future and took care of the present.

What I did fight for was him to have time with my kid. There was a time period when something went bad at his house and the school called CAS. After they did their investigation, they told me no visits until they say so. Well that doesn’t work legally so I applied an emergency motion with the court. Serving both CAS and him. They didn’t like that very much BTW. Apparently you are not supposed to hold them legally accountable. But I had no legal right to deny visitation and we had no custody agreement anyways. We didn’t need one up to that point.

Once the denial of visitation got sorted out and he did the parenting class, I made the visitation schedule. Giving alternate holidays, yearly vacation time in the summer. Alternating March breaks, and as much time has I could give. It wasn’t for me, it was for my kid. That is my job as a parent. To help foster their relationships, not hinder them because I don’t get along with the person.

So you and I are alike in that line of thinking, but too many are not. Which is why these laws need to be made.

Oh and BTW - for those that need to know - FRO is automatically involved. You have to both agree and legally opt out of it. You are automatically opted in whenever support is issued. Because often it becomes an issue at some point. They take their money off the first available pay checks and will take half your cheque until the monthly amount is paid. So if you make 2000 a week and your support is a 1300, they will take 1000 off the first check and then 300 off the second.

The agency can’t backdate anything. The courts have to issue that and then they can collect. Again, at 50% of your cheque until paid.
You get it and it's refreshing to see how fair you are. I mis-read you for a bit. If we all play fair everyone wins and this leads to a healthy strong understanding relationship. In my opinion everyone needs to pay child support. Don't dismiss him from it. Super tall of you taking on both roles financially.

I struggle with gatekeeping. Yup gatekeeping. It looks like you're not interested in keeping a kid away from father. Assuming he's a responsible father. I'm not referring to threats to society.

For the ones that don't know, FRO only garnishes wages when you have an enforceable court order. In order to determine child support, financial disclosures and all that junk has to be exchanged and revealed. Income statements, employment information.......Form 13. The death to all relationships.
 
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It's always the man. Sure.

You get it and it's refreshing to see how fair you are. I mis-read you for a bit. If we all play fair everyone wins and this leads to a healthy strong understanding relationship. In my opinion everyone needs to pay child support. Don't dismiss him from it. Super tall of you taking on both roles financially.

I struggle with gatekeeping. Yup gatekeeping. It looks like you're not interested in keeping a kid away from father. Assuming he's a responsible father. I'm not referring to threats to society.

For the ones that don't know, FRO only garnishes wages when you have an enforceable court order. In order to determine child support, financial disclosures and all that junk has to be exchanged and revealed. Income statements, employment information.......Form 13. The death to all relationships.
It was go after support and risk pissing him off enough to never see his kid or just say screw it so they had a relationship. He was an ass back then but he is better now and I made the right choice because they have a great relationship. It just took him a little while to mature.

and you are correct about FRO. Once the courts are involved, there is no escaping them.

Now go get laid. LOL.
 

wiskey bravo

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It was go after support and risk pissing him off enough to never see his kid or just say screw it so they had a relationship. He was an ass back then but he is better now and I made the right choice because they have a great relationship. It just took him a little while to mature.

and you are correct about FRO. Once the courts are involved, there is no escaping them.

Now go get laid. LOL.
Its 21:41....it's going to be tough to get laid right now. Any recommendations? :)
 

xix

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Relationships is both hard and easy. And it is a big topic.

I see and understand @Jenesis and @wiskey bravo, sure both of them see it differently than most lost in space people. These lost in space people are the knuckle heads that speaks the loudest and make it look like it is not safe to get married. Even in Podcast on the internet the guests are not normal to me.

I have learned over the years that people cannot communicate. They think they do but don't.

Simply if you are looking to get married. Say it on the first date if the other person don't jive run. Pay your own share.
To many people use other people.
Both genders don't have a list or guidelines what they want or expect from a relationship. Can't even answer the question where do you see yourself in a year?

Cost of living is through the roof and it is hurting everyone.

Yes everyone is hurting, or have been hurt in one form or another ( SA or related to it is one of the worst ) but I have learned only 1/ 1000 people will heal / fix / repair / learn from the experience. And try to change for the better. The rest are just Validation Ego Syndrome. The attitude of the people is unbelievable.

- Where do I get 1/ 1K ? from all the workshops I have taken over the years, I rarely see people twice even in the same location. Even in 12 steps program people repeat themselves and not move forward.

This is one of the many reasons there is decline in the birth rate.
 
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