References for clients..

[Dbass34]

Those guys are usually texting for months so I am not losing my time anymore with that. I have a website with all the details clients needs to know ( rates, services, location,specials, schedule etc...) So unless you have pertinent questions, it should be no reasons for a potential client to text me 10 times in a day... More then 10 texts , I am asking for a deposit in order to keep texting you.. It takes less then 10 texts to book a session.

A website... it's a key element these days. I hate texting more than 4-5 times to get answers. When there is a website and it's well organise, no reason to text 10 times. Simple: texting should be strictly for booking purposes, for the rest, the website does the job...

BTW, nice website Alisonxox

 

[Alma@ALO]

Wow !!!
I am happy to read all of your comments on the thread. Very interesting to confirm that Ottawa definitely have a No show issues/reputation..
Maybe if all the providers would always ask for transfer in order to book would be the solution ? But I think the clients would not be happy about that.. Very unfortunate because it would definitely solve the problem once for all...

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Just the ones that have no references, that previously cancelled last minute or the ones on the blacklist for no show.

It would be a great idea for us ladies to communicate w eachother more as it would be great for all of us to share our blacklists with eachother or have some sort of database of black numbers. Your ideas are good Allison. Thank for sharing. Also agree w dbass u do have a very nice website Cheers.

 

[hoffa68]

Just one last comment to show that no shows happen to clients.

A couple of years ago I went to see a provider downtown. This was before I was a regular on TERB but I wasn't a rookie. There was an ad on BP I had like for a few weeks and back then that's how I determined if I would go see someone I didn't know. Anyways I finally set up a lunch time appointment and went to see her. She made me wait for over 20 mins outside with some lame excuse about a friend was still there blah blah blah. Finally i was about to leave when she finally said come up. It was a great visit and I really liked her. Her ads continued to pop up but I couldn't really bring myself to go see her because I dont like being delayed.

After getting more involved with TERB I started seeing reviews about her that were very positive from reputable members. I decided to try and see her again especially because she set up shop near my work.

So yesterday after failing to book an appointment with an MA I wanted to see, i saw her add again. I originally tried at lunch but she wasn't available until mid afternoon. I told her I would contact later to see if she was available as I wasnt sure if I could get out if work early enough to see her. So this is how it went

4:03 - (me) when are you available next.
4:05 - (her) anytime now
- (me) I'm leaving in 10 mins
- she gave me her address
4:08 - (me) ping you when I'm there. See you shortly.
4:09 - (her) I'm just hoping in the shower. If I don't answer right away give me a minute.
4:28 - (me) I'm here. (I was actually there a few minutes earlier but wanted to give her a couple of mins just in case)
4:44 - (me) you done your shower yet.
4:55 - I left. I went to Tim's and got a drink for the trip home and then I texted her Any reason why you ghosted me?

Now she did text me a few minutes later while on the road but I didn't see it until I hit a light (dont drive and text kids). She said she didn't ghost me and just saw these texts now.

If this was my first experience with her i may have given her the benefit of the doubt. However i also have to question why it is that if she didn't see my text for a whole 45 mins, wouldnt she have reached out to me saying are you coming. Any provider reading this can correct me if I'm wrong but would you wait for more than 30 mins before sending a message saying where the f**k are you.

Anyways just a little bitter I am. No time to find anyone else and I went home feeling to friskie

 

[Gurney]

Yes ladies you should share a list like that.

Same way we have lists here on fot us.

@hoffa68
agree with you also, I have been left freezing fro 30 minutes once outside. I stayed there because I was feeling guilty doing a no show on an appointment I had agreed.
And it was an asian switch/bait...

My bad, silly me...

 

[Alison_xox]

Thanks for the compliments about my website .. It makes me feel happy that you like it ..

 

[SerialBiz]

I’m quite late to the party but I’m going to give a personal perspective...

If a provider asks for references, 9/10 I won’t see her simply because it’s an inconvinience for me to reach out to past providers as I book sessions on a whim.

BUT with that being said I understand the perspective providers come from in the sense that there’s all kinds of flankers, time wasters, unhygenic clients etc. Makes sense.

However, I’m quite glad to give my TERB handle as I contribute semi-regularly on the forum.

I think this was mentioned on the forum already but it’s an opinion from a hobbyist to consider.

 

[GoinDown91]

Intuitively, the harder it is for sex workers to advertise their availability - now that BP is done -
the less likely they will be requiring references.

 

[bangminton]

Intuitively, the harder it is for sex workers to advertise their availability - now that BP is done -
the less likely they will be requiring references.

I concur. All bets are off now that BP is gone.

 

[Alison_xox]

I am still asking for references , cerb/terb handle or something to make me feel safe .. The end of bp is not making any difference on my way to book a client , it just make me harder to find ..
I still need to be safe

 

[GoinDown91]

cerb/terb handles are likely the most useful but keep in mind that anyone can pretend to be someone else with a 'safe' posting profile.
as for references from other sex workers, it's the equivalent of giving away your business for free. and if advertising is going to get more difficult and chasing more fragmented customer bases, why would anyone divulge this information? Customer lists are any business' most valuable asset.

 

[Alison_xox]

cerb/terb handles are likely the most useful but keep in mind that anyone can pretend to be someone else with a 'safe' posting profile.
as for references from other sex workers, it's the equivalent of giving away your business for free. and if advertising is going to get more difficult and chasing more fragmented customer bases, why would anyone divulge this information? Customer lists are any business' most valuable asset.

The way I am working with my references :
If a provider contact me to ask a reference , she will give me the client’s phone number..
If this phone number is on my client list I will let her know that he’s a safe client , if not I will tell her that I don’t know him .. If he’s pretending to be one of my clients and I don’t already have him on my list , I won’t want him on my list anyways loll ! So basically, she’s only sharing information that I already have , or information that I don’t want
And ...
It is not like I am gonna say that I don’t know him if I do because then the client will know that I didn’t provide the reference for him and I will lose him as a client for beeing a bi”ch...

Anyways , well established providers don’t play games like that ... We are a great team so far and we share references for our safety ..
Let’s keep it like that and keep beeing a great team for the sakes of a safe work environment ..

Am I right girls ?

 

[GoinDown91]

my guess is the vast majority of guys are looking for fun on fairly short notice. same day. next day max.
If you're going to drop everything to give your competitors your business, you won't be in business for long.
Yes take every measure you feel you need to protect your safety, but we johns are the ones breaking the law so our privacy concerns are important as well.

 

[Alison_xox]

my guess is the vast majority of guys are looking for fun on fairly short notice. same day. next day max.
If you're going to drop everything to give your competitors your business, you won't be in business for long.

When you are a good provider , you know your clients will be back ... Some guys like diversity , who am I to keep them on leash ?
It is enough clients in Ottawa to share.. If the tendancy of discouraging fake adds and encouraging the ones that actually get great reviews is getting serious , it will be even more clientele for well established providers because you guys will not spend your money on girls with fake pics and poor services ... I might be naive, but I like to be positive and to work as a team for the improvement of the industry ...
If everybody start a war of competition, it will be hell in Ottawa and not safe to work...
I prefer sharing and stay safe...

 

[GoinDown91]

Yes of course take every measure you feel you need to protect your safety,
but remember it's we johns who are the ones breaking the law so our privacy concerns are important as well.

 

[Alma@ALO]

Yes of course take every measure you feel you need to protect your safety,
but remember it's we johns who are the ones breaking the law so our privacy concerns are important as well.

Then give ur terb handle as a refrence like so many other established terbites do.
Its a wonderful reference source.

 

[RachelNicole]

I concur. All bets are off now that BP is gone.

Disagree. BP is not the be all and end all lol. The issue of fakebooking and no shows still exists with or without. Regardless, very unbecoming of those who use disadvantage of others as leverage. This is also the same issue with text apps; they put us providers at a disadvantage. It is not fair game to suggest providers bear the full weight of risk. Good clients will be willing to balance that risk for a reputable provider.

 

[RachelNicole]

A website... it's a key element these days. I hate texting more than 4-5 times to get answers. When there is a website and it's well organise, no reason to text 10 times. Simple: texting should be strictly for booking purposes, for the rest, the website does the job...

BTW, nice website Alisonxox

Agree after several years I decided to finally make a website
I am hoping it attracts like minded clients like yourself https://www.rachelnicolemassage.com/

 

[RachelNicole]

I agree with everything you've posted to date except for the above quote NicoleR. It's human nature to be more aware of the problems that personally effect us over those that effect others.
Not going to list problems/issues both sides of the industry face as they have been listed before. IMO, for both sides to try and unite, work closer together, we as a group need to be aware of ALL issues both sides face everyday.

I read your words and I think we agree? Not sure if u misunderstood my words but I do agree with everything u said..i believe we r on the same page only thing is u only quoted half of what I wrote..kind of chops up the full meaning of what I said. But again still agree with u

 

[hoffa68]

Q1. Can e-transfers be 100% anonymous?

Q2. What happens if one has made a e-transfer of $50 but something really out of his control forces him to cancel? Lose of deposit? Refund? Session postponed with or without penalty?

Q3. What's this Cerb/Lyla Client # list? I never heard of it. Can I find out if I'm on it?

Q4. How can Providers base 'some of' their booking process on obtaining client's Terb handle when the larger percentage of client's are not on Terb?

For your Q1 I believe I can answer that. I'm not sure if all banks are the same but I currently have 2 bank accounts at 2 different banks. My main account has my real name on it so if I sent an etransfer to you it would say you have received an etransfer from <real name hear>. My other account I was able to change my display name and add my secret email so if I sent an etransfer from that account it will say you received an etransfer from Bruce Deighan.

Now this will be anonymous to receiver. It also doesn't show what bank it came from.

 

[hoffa68]

I would actually disagree with the answer to Q2 in the sense that the whole reason that providers are asking for the etransfer is to make sure they are compensated if someone no shows. It gives them a sense of security that you are going to be there. So not providing the PW until you get there means you can no show and cancel the deposit and the provider loses it. Unfair in that circumstance.

I have heard some providers are reasonable and if there is a legitimate reason you can't make it will put it towards a future visit.

Now I know some guys have the belief that you never send money no matter what. That's fine. Its up to each person. If the provider has never met you and that is her policy than move on. I have no issue doing it if required but only had to do it once. However I would never do it if I didn't believe that the SP was legit and well known.